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The Poem by Saib-e-Tabrizi
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08-06-2007 10:16 PM
Ah! How beautiful is Kabul encircled by her arid mountains
And Rose, of the trails of thorns she envies
Her gusts of powdered soil, slightly sting my eyes
But I love her, for knowing and loving are born of this same dust
My song exhalts her dazzling tulips
And at the beauty of her trees, I blush
How sparkling the water flows from Pul-I Bastaan!
May Allah protect such beauty from the evil eye of man!
Khizr chose the path to Kabul in order to reach Paradise
For her mountains brought him close to the delights of heaven
From the fort with sprawling walls, A Dragon of protection
Each stone is there more precious than the treasure of Shayagan
Every street of Kabul is enthralling to the eye
Through the bazaars, caravans of Egypt pass
One could not count the moons that shimmer on her roofs
And the thousand splendid suns that hide behind her walls
Her laughter of mornings has the gaiety of flowers
Her nights of darkness, the reflections of lustrous hair
Her melodious nightingales, with passion sing their songs
Ardent tunes, as leaves enflamed, cascading from their throats
And I, I sing in the gardens of Jahanara, of Sharbara
And even the trumpets of heaven envy their green pastures
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08-07-2007 09:55 PM
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08-08-2007 10:35 AM
Her nights of darkness, the reflections of lustrous hair
Her melodious nightingales, with passion sing their songs
Ardent tunes, as leaves enflamed, cascading from their throats”
This stanza, so achingly beautiful, underscores the tragedy of a bombed, ruined Kabul. The novel ended in 2003 with some optimism about the future. I wonder what the city is like now.
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08-09-2007 02:01 PM
Is that line a reference to the women of Kabul who are hidden behind walls? That is what it seems to me. I wonder what others think.
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08-11-2007 12:18 AM
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08-11-2007 02:23 PM
I tend to feel that the poet "could not count the moons ...and ...suns" as a way of saying that the abundance of beauty, goodness and wonder in the outer world of Kabul extended, as well, to "the thousand splendid suns that hide beind her walls" in the secret inner world of the home with wives and children and their vivid but cloistered life.
The "thousand splendid suns" image implies the passage of time, as does the reference to moons, uncountable in number - giving the feeling of eternity to the poet's love and appreciation of his beloved city.
The "suns that hide behind her walls" shows reverence for the safety of the idealized home life of the mothers and their children in Kabul.
Our two heroines did have sunny happiness with each other and the children, in the absence of the husband. Surely, their thousand splendid suns rose and fell daily around their devotion to and love of the children.
I think it likely that, at the time that the poem was written, the "thousand" would refer to an unimaginably large number, imbuing the suns with an opulence beyond their own natural radiance. These suns, whether daily sun, or daily family life, would be rich and rewarding, as were the experiences of the women and children together in this book.
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08-12-2007 12:33 AM
viva2 wrote:
Thank you so much for sharing the poem with us. Do you know how old the poem is? The time in which it was written could have some bearing on the interpretation of the title of our book.
I tend to feel that the poet "could not count the moons ...and ...suns" as a way of saying that the abundance of beauty, goodness and wonder in the outer world of Kabul extended, as well, to "the thousand splendid suns that hide beind her walls" in the secret inner world of the home with wives and children and their vivid but cloistered life.
The "thousand splendid suns" image implies the passage of time, as does the reference to moons, uncountable in number - giving the feeling of eternity to the poet's love and appreciation of his beloved city.
The "suns that hide behind her walls" shows reverence for the safety of the idealized home life of the mothers and their children in Kabul.
Our two heroines did have sunny happiness with each other and the children, in the absence of the husband. Surely, their thousand splendid suns rose and fell daily around their devotion to and love of the children.
I think it likely that, at the time that the poem was written, the "thousand" would refer to an unimaginably large number, imbuing the suns with an opulence beyond their own natural radiance. These suns, whether daily sun, or daily family life, would be rich and rewarding, as were the experiences of the women and children together in this book.
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08-13-2007 10:09 AM
Although it was written in the 17th Century, it captures the love that the Afghan people have for their beautiful capital city.
Unfortunately, today, there are not so many tulips; and there is more rubble than beautiful buildings.
I think the "thousand splendid suns" are the mothers who loved and nurtured their children knowing that many of them would not thrive under these horrible political climate.
The author exalts "motherhood". In the novel, motherhood emerges as the highest ideal, not only for Mariam and Laila, but for women in general.
The words by Mariam to Laila (who now has 2 children) is, "Think like a mother" captures the mother-daughter-like relationship that grew between them, even though they were virutal prisoners of their furiously violent husband.
"I am a part of everything that I have read."
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08-13-2007 03:25 PM
IBIS wrote:
What a splendid interpretation of the poem, Viva2. I think you got it just right.
Although it was written in the 17th Century, it captures the love that the Afghan people have for their beautiful capital city.
Unfortunately, today, there are not so many tulips; and there is more rubble than beautiful buildings.
I think the "thousand splendid suns" are the mothers who loved and nurtured their children knowing that many of them would not thrive under these horrible political climate.
The author exalts "motherhood". In the novel, motherhood emerges as the highest ideal, not only for Mariam and Laila, but for women in general.
The words by Mariam to Laila (who now has 2 children) is, "Think like a mother" captures the mother-daughter-like relationship that grew between them, even though they were virutal prisoners of their furiously violent husband.
Thank you, Ibis, for your generosity. (I majored in English while in the greater Boston area, and fondly remember reading and analyzing Shakespeare's sonnets in my sophomore year. Happily, that love of poetry stays with me still, so many years later.)
Thank you, too, for your observations about motherhood in the book. Your observations are more astute than mine, and undoubtedly bear strongly on Hosseini's choice of title, as well as on the direction of the story.
The descriptions of Kabul in Kite Runner, before and after invasion, were first warmly beautiful and then achingly heartbreaking. How I wish I could have seen Kabul before the wars. The loving descriptions by Saib-e-Tabrizi and Khaled Hosseini, alike, give a small taste of what has been lost. You speak of the tulips as though you had seen them yourself. What a sad image, encapsulating the greater loss.
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08-14-2007 02:13 PM
One of the images of the book that stands out most clearly in my mind appears at the end of the book when Laila goes to visit Mariam's childhood town, Herat (I believe), and sees Afghans that have planted flowers in the casings of the old Mujahideen rockets. I feel that one of the main themes of the book was the beauty of the people, so overshadowed by war and adversity, and their ability to constantly bounce back and find beauty and joy even in the midst of terrible circumstances. I feel that Mariam and Laila did that sitting outside drinking tea and getting to know one another - it seems, at least, for Mariam, this was the only time this happened on such an intimate level. Even in the midst of an oppressive family situation, they found a way to sustain each other, and eventually Mariam found liberty in making the the decision to save Laila's life.
I know the poem was not written present-day but it makes me think of our occupation there, and how so much of what we here is about our political strategy, our "success" in routing terrorists, and so little about the good human beings who live there. If we are not careful (which I think Hosseini's books go so far to prevent), we will see only the war-ravaged landscape and forget to look beyond it to the unique people who live there and who embrace their country as it is. It is a great and enviable ability of the human spirit to continue to hope when much around you is devastated. I flip out just reading about the conditions of the people there (especially the women!).
Sunltcloud wrote:
The poem was written in the 17th century by the Persian poet Saib-e-Tabrizi. I tried to find something about him but Mr. Hosseini's book overshadows the poet. Every web page I read discussed the book/title and none revealed more about the poet. I will try again.
viva2 wrote:
Thank you so much for sharing the poem with us. Do you know how old the poem is? The time in which it was written could have some bearing on the interpretation of the title of our book.
I tend to feel that the poet "could not count the moons ...and ...suns" as a way of saying that the abundance of beauty, goodness and wonder in the outer world of Kabul extended, as well, to "the thousand splendid suns that hide beind her walls" in the secret inner world of the home with wives and children and their vivid but cloistered life.
The "thousand splendid suns" image implies the passage of time, as does the reference to moons, uncountable in number - giving the feeling of eternity to the poet's love and appreciation of his beloved city.
The "suns that hide behind her walls" shows reverence for the safety of the idealized home life of the mothers and their children in Kabul.
Our two heroines did have sunny happiness with each other and the children, in the absence of the husband. Surely, their thousand splendid suns rose and fell daily around their devotion to and love of the children.
I think it likely that, at the time that the poem was written, the "thousand" would refer to an unimaginably large number, imbuing the suns with an opulence beyond their own natural radiance. These suns, whether daily sun, or daily family life, would be rich and rewarding, as were the experiences of the women and children together in this book.
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08-14-2007 02:21 PM
viva2 wrote:
Thank you so much for sharing the poem with us.
Do you know how old the poem is? The time in which it was written could have some bearing on the interpretation of the title of our book.
I tend to feel that the poet "could not count the moons ...and ...suns" as a way of saying that the abundance of beauty, goodness and wonder in the outer world of Kabul extended, as well, to "the thousand splendid suns that hide beind her walls" in the secret inner world of the home with wives and children and their vivid but cloistered life.
The "thousand splendid suns" image implies the passage of time, as does the reference to moons, uncountable in number - giving the feeling of eternity to the poet's love and appreciation of his beloved city.
The "suns that hide behind her walls" shows reverence for the safety of the idealized home life of the mothers and their children in Kabul.
Our two heroines did have sunny happiness with each other and the children, in the absence of the husband. Surely, their thousand splendid suns rose and fell daily around their devotion to and love of the children.
I think it likely that, at the time that the poem was written, the "thousand" would refer to an unimaginably large number, imbuing the suns with an opulence beyond their own natural radiance. These suns, whether daily sun, or daily family life, would be rich and rewarding, as were the experiences of the women and children together in this book.
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08-15-2007 01:54 AM
Chaser wrote:
Thank you, Sunltcloud, for sharing when the poem was written. I feel like I need to go back and take a look at what was happening in the history at that time as well as previously to understand more fully what the poet might be expressing.
One of the images of the book that stands out most clearly in my mind appears at the end of the book when Laila goes to visit Mariam's childhood town, Herat (I believe), and sees Afghans that have planted flowers in the casings of the old Mujahideen rockets. I feel that one of the main themes of the book was the beauty of the people, so overshadowed by war and adversity, and their ability to constantly bounce back and find beauty and joy even in the midst of terrible circumstances. I feel that Mariam and Laila did that sitting outside drinking tea and getting to know one another - it seems, at least, for Mariam, this was the only time this happened on such an intimate level.
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08-15-2007 11:09 AM
It's so true, we all gravitate towards peaceful moments, even in the middle of wartime; we are drawn to the beautiful in the middle of ugliness. I grew up in a country that was in the middle of violent war; we'd cower in fear whenever rebel soldiers marched into our village. But we children always found time to play hopscotch. And we always found beautiful wild flowers hidden under rubble to bring home to our mothers.
"I am a part of everything that I have read."
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09-22-2009 03:25 PM
O love it...the poem., the commentaries, wonderful. Thank you.