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basia
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The Book as a Whole: Alice and Lying

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At one point in the book, Alice admits to lying often. For example, when telling Mr Delmar about her relationship about with Polly, about what her parents do, etc. I was wandering if you think that that undermines her credibility as a narrator? Do you think she lied about anything to us - the readers? That's one thing I wandered about. Could it be that there were some other things that weren't as they seemed?

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vivico1
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Re: Alice and Lying


basia wrote:
At one point in the book, Alice admits to lying often. For example, when telling Mr Delmar about her relationship about with Polly, about what her parents do, etc. I was wandering if you think that that undermines her credibility as a narrator? Do you think she lied about anything to us - the readers? That's one thing I wandered about. Could it be that there were some other things that weren't as they seemed?


I don't think it underminds her as the narrator. After all, we hear her thoughts behind why she lied and what makes her lie about some things. As a matter of fact, on some of the lies, she even goes over what made her say what she does and how she justifies it to herself. As for some of the other lies thus far, like to help her father's business when she is talking to potential customers, or lying to the twin boys about something, you know she is or you know its a kid's way to get to another one. So, as the narrator of the book, she lacks no credibility to me, she talks about her lies too much lol, for me to mistrust what she is saying..as the narrator that is.
(trying to be careful here not to say anything about specific lies because it may get into situations that people havent read yet :smileywink:) this is just a general answer.
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Re: Alice and Lying

I agree with vivico1, I don't think this undermines Alice's credibility. She lied to get attention by those around her. I don't think she would lie to the reader...we were of a sounding board than a source of sympathy.

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basia
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Re: Alice and Lying

Yeah, that makes sense. Still, I was a bit suspicious, was waiting to see if some things would turn out not as they may have seemed. But yes, I guess we have to take her word as a narrator and trust that what she tells us is true.
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I really do not feel it undermines Alice either. She does explain each reason for what she does or saids. And she hears her Dad defying the truth every day to his lady friends. She is living in a dream, this helps her survive. But she has good reasons for this.
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Re: Alice and Lying

I'm glad to see you bring up Alice's father here, Kiakar. I think that Alice lies about different things for different reasons, but as I was writing, I thought about how confusing it would be for a child to grow up in a culture of lies--Joe lies all the time for his business, telling people what they want to hear, etc. And in a way, Alice has grown up learning to lie about her mother, or at least learning not to tell the truth about her.

I agree that Alice is living in a sort of dream and that lying is one of the ways she copes.

Thanks for the comment!





kiakar wrote:
I really do not feel it undermines Alice either. She does explain each reason for what she does or saids. And she hears her Dad defying the truth every day to his lady friends. She is living in a dream, this helps her survive. But she has good reasons for this.


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