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Ya_Ya
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Re: Amazon Buys Liquavista


doncr wrote:

I'll put up with an LCD display for reading eBooks, but I want the longer battery life of an eInk display when I'm not consuming color content (magazines, web, videos, graphic novels, etc.) 

 

What I'd really like is a device with an LCD and an eInk screen and let me choose which I'd like to use to view the content I'm consuming.  The eInk display could be on the flap of the case cover and I could fold it over to use eInk vs. LCD.  Having the eInk screen/case cover that has the magnet snap function like the MS Surface tablets do would be a cool add-on for a tablet.

 


I think you'd actually like Pixel Qi, but nobody is using it.  Yet.

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Re: Amazon Buys Liquavista

What would color eink really bring to the Nook anyway?

 

Unless the screen size is also increased, images would be fairly tiny.  Unless the resolution is increased text on those images is going to have a lot of issues.  And from what I've seen most color eink screens either have very faded color, suffer from low res due to the color screen, and/or add the whole glare issue that is a major reason why people decided on going with an eink device to begin with.

 

What would benefit from color eink-

 

Magazines, childrens books, tech manuals.

 

So lets tackle those one by one

 

Magazines, on a six inch screen are fairly limited to text, the pictures would drastically increase the file size since it wouldn't be feasible to have an image w/ text on the same page for most of the magazines out there. 

 

So there would be some benefit, but without really crisp color and a sharp display would it be worth it?  I've gotta say no.

 

Childrens books, really wont work on a six inch screen, at least the ones with pictures.  Exceptions for the ones that are available as trade paperbacks (diary of a wimpy kid, captain underpants, etc).  Though I think those would work as is on a NST even if BN doesn't sell them for the NST.  It would also remove the 'read to me feature' unless you want to add a speaker and possibly a microphone to the NST color.  And just as the case with magazines the screen would have to be really good and the color would need to be crisp.

 

Tech manuals, possibly the only area that I don't think would require the rich color of the other two.  Resolution still would be an issue.  I also suspect that the size would be a limiting factor, but maybe not as big of an issue as with the magazines and childrens books.

 

So really, why the rush for color eink?  Give us better eink first and then work and adding color.

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Re: Amazon Buys Liquavista

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As I posted in another thread, the real attraction to color electronic paper displays is their potential combined with getting them to refresh quickly enough for full motion. If you can combine those two you suddenly have a full fledged tablet with weeks of battery life and perfect outdoor visibility.

 

So it isn't so much how the tech is now, but what it will be capable of in the future.

 

The far more important announcement recently is that eInk started shipping consumer screens with plastic backplates - i.e. fully flexible and nigh impossible to destroy eInk screens. And they aren't vaporware like Liquavista.

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Re: Amazon Buys Liquavista

And will we be seeing these screens in future nooks? :smileywink:
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Re: Amazon Buys Liquavista

Probably not for awhile.  I think Wexler are the only guys with one on the market, and it's a bit pricey.

 

http://www.shopereaders.com/Wexler-Flex-One-p/wexlerflex.htm (even accounting for a mark up from the site, it's likely on par with the HD line of Nooks.

 

 

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Re: Amazon Buys Liquavista

This is the end game:

 

As I posted in another thread, the real attraction to color electronic paper displays is their potential combined with getting them to refresh quickly enough for full motion. If you can combine those two you suddenly have a full fledged tablet with weeks of battery life and perfect outdoor visibility.

 

*******

 

However, the chances of a screen technology beating LCD are slim.

 

LCD keeps evolving too. So Color eInk not only has to evolve, it has to

 

1) Evolve faster than LCD.

 

2) Somehow achieve economies of scale to become a viable competitor.

 

It's very difficult. The best way to scale would be to start with a niche like color eReaders or something similar and then expand.

 

Kindle and Nook are, in some ways, a means to scale eInk technology.