Do I make the jump away from "real" books? If so, which Nook?

[bklvr896]

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Fred011 wrote:

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Sun_Cat wrote:

My eyes are in the same situation, and I definitely would not recommend the Nook Tablet or Nook Color for you. The Nook Simple Touch is the way to go. For reading in bed, you'll probably want the newly anncounced model with the glow light (available May 1). That gives you the best of both worlds. You can read it easily without eyestrain anywhere from bright sunlight to total darkness.

As far as sharing with your sisters goes, I believe that it doesn't matter whose credit card is used to buy the device. The important factor is the B&N account used to register the device. If you all register your Nooks using the same B&N account (same email and password) then you'll all automatically have access to the whole library of ebooks you buy at B&N.

That's the simplest way to share with family members or others you trust. The other way is to have separate accounts and tell each other the credit card number you use to buy ebooks. You can then sideload each other's books, and the Nook will ask you to enter the credit card number to get access. (Search the forum for "sideload" and you'll find plenty of info about what it means and how to do it.)

That's how I think sharing works. I'm sure someone will jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.

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"The other way is to have separate accounts and tell each other the credit card number you use to buy ebooks. You can then sideload each other's books, and the Nook will ask you to enter the credit card number to get access."

Not having done this as explained above, I was wondering if the person with the original CC number had set the PIN number option for purchases, would the Nook also require the PIN number information to "unlock" the book on the other person's reader?  If not, it seems a lot "safer" to let someone else have the CC number to share books.

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No, they don't need the PIN number.  The PIN number and the credit card number are for two different purposes.  The PIN number is stop someone from accessing the store and making purchases, the same way as inputting your password to make purchases at the store.

The credit card number is part of process to create the key to unlock the DRM.  So they only need to input the cc number.  And it isn't stored on the Nook, it's only used to create the key to unlock the book.

[Fred011]

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bklvr896 wrote:

No, they don't need the PIN number.  The PIN number and the credit card number are for two different purposes.  The PIN number is stop someone from accessing the store and making purchases, the same way as inputting your password to make purchases at the store.

The credit card number is part of process to create the key to unlock the DRM.  So they only need to input the cc number.  And it isn't stored on the Nook, it's only used to create the key to unlock the book.

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Just so I am clear on this, you are saying that to unlock a sideloaded book that I get from another family member I "only need to input the cc number" and no other information such as PIN of PW, and that the Nook does not store the CC number?

Another post said the CC number only needed to be entered once for a given account and all sideloaded books associated with that account would be unlocked without re-entering the CC number.

Now I'm getting confused.  Help me out here folks.... exactly what, and how frequently must I enter it, do I need to enter in order to unlock sideloaded books from family members?

Thanks in advance for your help.

[GiGi_1105]

I have a hard time imagining reading a "real book" anymore. I have a NC and am 50+ and personally worked with tweaking the brightness, the font and the color of the page. Since I never had any of the others I cant speak to that but I can't say I have noticed problems with my vision because it (any more than reading a real book by a lamp at night).

The book lending feature was something that sold me on the Nook when I purchased it. Its true the book can only be lent once and the time period is around 14 days.

I have had my NC for over a year and I love it..... and all the indie authors I have found!

[bklvr896]

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Fred011 wrote:

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bklvr896 wrote:

No, they don't need the PIN number.  The PIN number and the credit card number are for two different purposes.  The PIN number is stop someone from accessing the store and making purchases, the same way as inputting your password to make purchases at the store.

The credit card number is part of process to create the key to unlock the DRM.  So they only need to input the cc number.  And it isn't stored on the Nook, it's only used to create the key to unlock the book.

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Just so I am clear on this, you are saying that to unlock a sideloaded book that I get from another family member I "only need to input the cc number" and no other information such as PIN of PW, and that the Nook does not store the CC number?

Another post said the CC number only needed to be entered once for a given account and all sideloaded books associated with that account would be unlocked without re-entering the CC number.

Now I'm getting confused.  Help me out here folks.... exactly what, and how frequently must I enter it, do I need to enter in order to unlock sideloaded books from family members?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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You enter your name and credit card number once, when you try and open the first sideloaded book.  Ans subsequent sideloaded books purchased with that same credit card will be opened without further input.

The password or PIN is not relevant, it's for an entirely different purpose.  It prevents people from accessing your account and purchasing anything.  The credit card is used to create the key for DRM (Digital Rights Management) which is the copy protection scheme.  One has nothing to do with the other.

And no, the Nook doesn't store the number, it stores the "key". 

[Thrillers4Me]

Thanks for the input thus far.  I have another question.  I have no problem with my sister's having my CC #, but I imagine that they'd want to buy books with their own cc so we don't have to start sending around checks.

Can 1 Nook have more than one CC associated?

[Sun_Cat]

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Thrillers4Me wrote:

Thanks for the input thus far.  I have another question.  I have no problem with my sister's having my CC #, but I imagine that they'd want to buy books with their own cc so we don't have to start sending around checks.

Can 1 Nook have more than one CC associated?

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Yes. I believe that if you use the second (separate accounts) method I mentioned in the third paragraph of my first post, then you could each buy your own books with your own account, and you could sideload books from siblings and others who trust you with their cc numbers. You would just have to enter each cc the first time you opened a book bought with that account.

With the first sharing method (multiple Nooks registered to the same B&N account) you can only have one credit card associated with the account, which would be charged for all purchases from B&N.

[bklvr896]

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Thrillers4Me wrote:

Thanks for the input thus far.  I have another question.  I have no problem with my sister's having my CC #, but I imagine that they'd want to buy books with their own cc so we don't have to start sending around checks.

Can 1 Nook have more than one CC associated?

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Depends on what you mean by associated.  The Nook has one credit card associated with it, your default credit card on your B&N account, in that any books you buy using the Nook will use that credit card number, no one elses.

You can also enter cc numbers to create the "key" to unlock books from other sources.  It remembers the key, not the credit card.  Currently, my Nook can open books associated with my current default credit card, my old default credit card, my mom's credit card and a friends credit card.

If you register more than once device to an account, all of the devices will use the same credit card to purchase books.  You can't register two Nooks to an account and assign a different default credit card to each one.

[Fred011]

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bklvr896 wrote:

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Fred011 wrote:

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bklvr896 wrote:

No, they don't need the PIN number.  The PIN number and the credit card number are for two different purposes.  The PIN number is stop someone from accessing the store and making purchases, the same way as inputting your password to make purchases at the store.

The credit card number is part of process to create the key to unlock the DRM.  So they only need to input the cc number.  And it isn't stored on the Nook, it's only used to create the key to unlock the book.

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Just so I am clear on this, you are saying that to unlock a sideloaded book that I get from another family member I "only need to input the cc number" and no other information such as PIN of PW, and that the Nook does not store the CC number?

Another post said the CC number only needed to be entered once for a given account and all sideloaded books associated with that account would be unlocked without re-entering the CC number.

Now I'm getting confused.  Help me out here folks.... exactly what, and how frequently must I enter it, do I need to enter in order to unlock sideloaded books from family members?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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You enter your name and credit card number once, when you try and open the first sideloaded book.  Ans subsequent sideloaded books purchased with that same credit card will be opened without further input.

The password or PIN is not relevant, it's for an entirely different purpose.  It prevents people from accessing your account and purchasing anything.  The credit card is used to create the key for DRM (Digital Rights Management) which is the copy protection scheme.  One has nothing to do with the other.

And no, the Nook doesn't store the number, it stores the "key". 

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Thanks.  I'm not questioning the validity of your answer, just trying to fully understand the process.

If I have it correctly, each time an ebook is purchased from B&N the credit card number used for the purchase goes through some algorithm that generates a lock and key for that particular book associated with that credit card number.  The book can then be transferred, locked by the original cc number.  The corresponding key is required to unlock the book.The key is stored on the original Nook.  If the book is accessed on another Nook, the generated lock requires the key: if the key is not already stored on the second Nook, the credit card number is requested to satisfy the "association" with the purchased book and the same key is generated and stored for future use in any subsequent situation where a book "locked" with that credit card number is accessed on that Nook.  Yes?

Is there a limit to the number of stored keys on any given Nook?

[NookGardener]

To the OP:

Yes, take the plunge!!! They are just great! But at this point, wait until the new Glow-Lite NST comes out to make a decision as to which one. (May 1st)

Re: Which device to get? IMO the e-ink just "feels" more like a "real" book.  It is a little easier on your eyes, you can read outside with it, and the battery lasts much longer.  On the other hand, the magazines (original page "flippy" ones, not the apps) are pretty fabulous on the NT.  And if you set it in night mode, you can read books in bed without the light.  But reading outside isn't great and the battery doesn't last as long. Choices, choices, choices.

If you set up under a single account, you can also share magazines subscriptions (if available for the device) and apps (NC/NT.)  It's definitely the easier way to go to share stuff, but someone will have to be "in charge."

Questions for the others:

1) If they are going to try to purchase ebooks with different credit cards on the account, the sisters will have to go to the website to purchase the books each time in order to indicate which credit card buying with, right?  They won't be able to buy straight from the device, or will they? And as the cc# unlocks the DRM, are there any long term pros and cons of buying this way? Bringing it up because recently, went to sideload a book purchased about a year ago with another cc# and.... I don't have the number anymore (can't find it anywhere.)  Got around it by archiving it and redownloading it.  Just wondering if purchasing with more than one cc# might pose other issues (that haven't thought of yet.)

2) You can attach up to 3 different gift cards to an account at any one time.  Is there a way they can attach the gift card, make their purchases, and then go into the account and "unattach" the card? Otherwise, purchases just go to the first card on the account, assuming it has a balance, right?

[NookGardener]

Ok, forget point #2, found that you can delete the gift cards.

What about "Instant Gifting?"  Has anyone tried that?  The OP could set up the "main" nook account that they all attach their nooks to, the sisters could create their own B&N account with their own cc#s and then send her "gifts" which they all get to share.