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Nice choice of words! OUCH!

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I thought Miriam was very gracious to Judith at the wedding, and that if MY family had been there, that woman wouldn't have made it out the door. My sisters would have vivisected her!


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I thought Miriam was very gracious to Judith at the wedding, and that if MY family had been there, that woman wouldn't have made it out the door. My sisters would have vivisected her!


You know, I understand Miriam's hatred of Judith, or any woman who takes your man but for me, I just wouldnt have anything to do with her. My anger would really be more at Charles. You cant take what isnt available for the taking. And Judith couldnt have gotten even as much as a kiss from Charles, had he been faithful to Miriam and loved her and not been available. Judith didnt "take" him away from Miriam, he flat walked away, with a newer model! It doesnt excuse her at all but I wouldnt waste my breath worrying about her, but I would kill Charles...and then say, out! LOL. Its like on tv shows where these crazy women are fighting over some man, who gets him while he just waits. I want to say to women like that, LADIES WAKE UP, if you both had any smarts, you would both walk away from him and both of you kick him where he wont be thinking about sex with anyone for awhile lol. Heck, go have a drink together and toast how lucky you are to both be out of his life. I know its got to hurt for Miriam, but its not really about the newer model, its about the old ass (can i say that in here?, sorry if not) that she is married to.
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I meant my sisters would have done Judith in for her display at the wedding, not for taking Charles away from Miriam.

You're right though- it is not possible to take what isn't available. Therefore, the cheater is the one I'd blame.
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I meant my sisters would have done Judith in for her display at the wedding, not for taking Charles away from Miriam.

You're right though- it is not possible to take what isn't available. Therefore, the cheater is the one I'd blame.


oh yeah, i get ya about the wedding behavior lol.
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Stephanie wrote:
I meant my sisters would have done Judith in for her display at the wedding, not for taking Charles away from Miriam.

You're right though- it is not possible to take what isn't available. Therefore, the cheater is the one I'd blame.





This is it exactly! Women who revenge other women for stealing their husbands, or really very mixed up. If the marriage is bad, it does take two, but those two can do the right thing, that is, get out before anyone cheats, and if you don't, you like the cheating and the fooling around. To some people, it makes them feel superior. And they are superior alright, very very cheap. So to the other woman, I think she is less to blame than the man who is the real cheater. Just my opinion.
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Stephanie wrote:
I thought Miriam was very gracious to Judith at the wedding, and that if MY family had been there, that woman wouldn't have made it out the door. My sisters would have vivisected her!




Stephanie - I would LOVE your family! Dot


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dotfrank wrote:


Stephanie wrote:
I thought Miriam was very gracious to Judith at the wedding, and that if MY family had been there, that woman wouldn't have made it out the door. My sisters would have vivisected her!




Stephanie - I would LOVE your family! Dot



Dot,

Not to mention, there are a lot of us! Judith wouldn't have stood a chance.

I'll admit, I felt terrible for Charles. Goodness knows what he had turned his life into. Middle age does worse things to men than to women I think. Miriam turned Mellie thought she'd lost it all, but it was really the other way round. She had gained so much more than she lost, just in being able to become the person she was meant to be.
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Stephanie wrote:I'll admit, I felt terrible for Charles. Goodness knows what he had turned his life into. Middle age does worse things to men than to women I think. Miriam turned Mellie thought she'd lost it all, but it was really the other way round. She had gained so much more than she lost, just in being able to become the person she was meant to be.




I was tempted to fee sorry for him but I didn't. He did it all to himself while being a jerk to everyone. It wasn't like the marriage broke up but he worked to have good relationships, especially with his sons. When Charlie called with the good news the first thing his father told him was that he wasn't giving him any money. What a jerk! He deserves everything he gets. He was lucky to be invited and so was Judith. Of course they would be uncomfortable but instead of laying low and just being there for Charlie and Priscilla they had to make it all about themselves and created a scene. Miriam was so gracious and it is all part of what I said before, what goes around comes around. She will benefit from it all because she has rediscovered the importance of family. We have some Charles and Judiths in our family and boy could I envision them at this wedding! Great writing again Dot!
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Wrighty wrote:

Stephanie wrote:I'll admit, I felt terrible for Charles. Goodness knows what he had turned his life into. Middle age does worse things to men than to women I think. Miriam turned Mellie thought she'd lost it all, but it was really the other way round. She had gained so much more than she lost, just in being able to become the person she was meant to be.




I was tempted to fee sorry for him but I didn't. He did it all to himself while being a jerk to everyone. It wasn't like the marriage broke up but he worked to have good relationships, especially with his sons. When Charlie called with the good news the first thing his father told him was that he wasn't giving him any money. What a jerk! He deserves everything he gets. He was lucky to be invited and so was Judith. Of course they would be uncomfortable but instead of laying low and just being there for Charlie and Priscilla they had to make it all about themselves and created a scene. Miriam was so gracious and it is all part of what I said before, what goes around comes around. She will benefit from it all because she has rediscovered the importance of family. We have some Charles and Judiths in our family and boy could I envision them at this wedding! Great writing again Dot!




This week Peter and I heard that two MORE friends of ours are separated. Unbelievable. We must know five couples that got married the same time we did that are calling it quits. I think sometimes love just runs its course and if everyone can be an adult about it, you can have joint custody and it can work for the kids. But the divorces we are seeing are the most bitter and angry displays of self indulgent narcissism and power plays of greed and lust - honey? I've got plot for years! Would y'all like another divorce story? I've got a doozie or two left to tell!!!


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dotfrank wrote:


Wrighty wrote:

Stephanie wrote:I'll admit, I felt terrible for Charles. Goodness knows what he had turned his life into. Middle age does worse things to men than to women I think. Miriam turned Mellie thought she'd lost it all, but it was really the other way round. She had gained so much more than she lost, just in being able to become the person she was meant to be.




I was tempted to fee sorry for him but I didn't. He did it all to himself while being a jerk to everyone. It wasn't like the marriage broke up but he worked to have good relationships, especially with his sons. When Charlie called with the good news the first thing his father told him was that he wasn't giving him any money. What a jerk! He deserves everything he gets. He was lucky to be invited and so was Judith. Of course they would be uncomfortable but instead of laying low and just being there for Charlie and Priscilla they had to make it all about themselves and created a scene. Miriam was so gracious and it is all part of what I said before, what goes around comes around. She will benefit from it all because she has rediscovered the importance of family. We have some Charles and Judiths in our family and boy could I envision them at this wedding! Great writing again Dot!




This week Peter and I heard that two MORE friends of ours are separated. Unbelievable. We must know five couples that got married the same time we did that are calling it quits. I think sometimes love just runs its course and if everyone can be an adult about it, you can have joint custody and it can work for the kids. But the divorces we are seeing are the most bitter and angry displays of self indulgent narcissism and power plays of greed and lust - honey? I've got plot for years! Would y'all like another divorce story? I've got a doozie or two left to tell!!!


Dot, bitter divorces are so hard to here about....But if you've got a story behind it, I'm sure it *will* be a doozie!...just leave the toothbrush out of the toilet bowl, ok? Try stuffing a few of those smelly shrimp shells in the curtain rods! :smileyvery-happy:
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KathyS wrote:


dotfrank wrote:


Wrighty wrote:

Stephanie wrote:I'll admit, I felt terrible for Charles. Goodness knows what he had turned his life into. Middle age does worse things to men than to women I think. Miriam turned Mellie thought she'd lost it all, but it was really the other way round. She had gained so much more than she lost, just in being able to become the person she was meant to be.




I was tempted to fee sorry for him but I didn't. He did it all to himself while being a jerk to everyone. It wasn't like the marriage broke up but he worked to have good relationships, especially with his sons. When Charlie called with the good news the first thing his father told him was that he wasn't giving him any money. What a jerk! He deserves everything he gets. He was lucky to be invited and so was Judith. Of course they would be uncomfortable but instead of laying low and just being there for Charlie and Priscilla they had to make it all about themselves and created a scene. Miriam was so gracious and it is all part of what I said before, what goes around comes around. She will benefit from it all because she has rediscovered the importance of family. We have some Charles and Judiths in our family and boy could I envision them at this wedding! Great writing again Dot!




This week Peter and I heard that two MORE friends of ours are separated. Unbelievable. We must know five couples that got married the same time we did that are calling it quits. I think sometimes love just runs its course and if everyone can be an adult about it, you can have joint custody and it can work for the kids. But the divorces we are seeing are the most bitter and angry displays of self indulgent narcissism and power plays of greed and lust - honey? I've got plot for years! Would y'all like another divorce story? I've got a doozie or two left to tell!!!


Dot, bitter divorces are so hard to here about....But if you've got a story behind it, I'm sure it *will* be a doozie!...just leave the toothbrush out of the toilet bowl, ok? Try stuffing a few of those smelly shrimp shells in the curtain rods! :smileyvery-happy:
K.


You guys can be really brutal LOL. Ever see War of The Roses? Best dark humor divorce movie I ever saw lol, with two brilliant stars, Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner. I am sure it was a book first but thats where I ran acrossed it, in the movies.
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Vivian, read Dot's Sullivans Island, her first novel...she's nothing like War of The Roses, thank goodness....just subtle as all get out! :smileyvery-happy: Then read the rest of her novels in order as written. They all stand alone, but you'll see characters return, like friends....I think you'll love them all!

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KathyS wrote:
Vivian, read Dot's Sullivans Island, her first novel...she's nothing like War of The Roses, thank goodness....just subtle as all get out! :smileyvery-happy: Then read the rest of her novels in order as written. They all stand alone, but you'll see characters return, like friends....I think you'll love them all!

K.


Kathy, I was more refering to your idea:

KathyS wrote: I'm sure it *will* be a doozie!...just leave the toothbrush out of the toilet bowl, ok? Try stuffing a few of those smelly shrimp shells in the curtain rods!
K.

Now that's some brutal messy divorcing! Thats what made me think of War of the Roses.
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dotfrank wrote:
This week Peter and I heard that two MORE friends of ours are separated. Unbelievable. We must know five couples that got married the same time we did that are calling it quits. I think sometimes love just runs its course and if everyone can be an adult about it, you can have joint custody and it can work for the kids. But the divorces we are seeing are the most bitter and angry displays of self indulgent narcissism and power plays of greed and lust - honey? I've got plot for years! Would y'all like another divorce story? I've got a doozie or two left to tell!!!




I'm a fan now so I'll read anything you write. And when it comes to divorce I'd much rather hear about a fictional story than a real one. Do it up right Dot! I can't wait! :smileytongue:
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vivico1 wrote:

KathyS wrote:
Vivian, read Dot's Sullivans Island, her first novel...she's nothing like War of The Roses, thank goodness....just subtle as all get out! :smileyvery-happy: Then read the rest of her novels in order as written. They all stand alone, but you'll see characters return, like friends....I think you'll love them all!

K.


Kathy, I was more refering to your idea:

KathyS wrote: I'm sure it *will* be a doozie!...just leave the toothbrush out of the toilet bowl, ok? Try stuffing a few of those smelly shrimp shells in the curtain rods!
K.

Now that's some brutal messy divorcing! Thats what made me think of War of the Roses.


Viv,
I'm sorry, I worded that badly. I referred you to her first novel because that would give you an idea of what Dot's characters are capable of! Sort of a 'getting back', without the violence. :smileyvery-happy: Pawley's Island is a good one for that too....I didn't know how much you knew about the rest of her novels....just wanted you to know that there are people that have return 'engagements' in her books, too, and if you want to know/see who these people are, I would personally recommend reading them in order. But it's not necessary, it's just fun to see them show up in the next book. :smileyhappy:
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ROFL!!!!! I am laughing so hard here. Talking about cheating, Saturday Night Live is on the tv behind me and this cheating husband is saying its not that, hes been diagnosed with RPS, restless P**** (male member) syndrome! LOL LOL and they are doing a commercial for it like for Viagra or Restless Leg Syndrome! oh man, I got to remember that phrase for cheating men...they definately got RPS!! :smileyvery-happy: musta been Charles' problem hehe
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ROFL!!!!! I am laughing so hard here. Talking about cheating, Saturday Night Live is on the tv behind me and this cheating husband is saying its not that, hes been diagnosed with RPS, restless P**** (male member) syndrome! LOL LOL and they are doing a commercial for it like for Viagra or Restless Leg Syndrome! oh man, I got to remember that phrase for cheating men...they definately got RPS!! :smileyvery-happy: musta been Charles' problem hehe


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vivico1 wrote:
ROFL!!!!! I am laughing so hard here. Talking about cheating, Saturday Night Live is on the tv behind me and this cheating husband is saying its not that, hes been diagnosed with RPS, restless P**** (male member) syndrome! LOL LOL and they are doing a commercial for it like for Viagra or Restless Leg Syndrome! oh man, I got to remember that phrase for cheating men...they definately got RPS!! :smileyvery-happy: musta been Charles' problem hehe




Sorry my elbow hit the wrong button. It is never anything on tv. I pay too much for cable and there is never never anything worth watching. Viv, I see you cut yours own for noise also. That is all the good it does me! But then, the grandkids want come to see me if I don't have the extra stations. So what do you do? I like the new disease the cheater thought up.
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kiakar wrote:


vivico1 wrote:
ROFL!!!!! I am laughing so hard here. Talking about cheating, Saturday Night Live is on the tv behind me and this cheating husband is saying its not that, hes been diagnosed with RPS, restless P**** (male member) syndrome! LOL LOL and they are doing a commercial for it like for Viagra or Restless Leg Syndrome! oh man, I got to remember that phrase for cheating men...they definately got RPS!! :smileyvery-happy: musta been Charles' problem hehe




Sorry my elbow hit the wrong button. It is never anything on tv. I pay too much for cable and there is never never anything worth watching. Viv, I see you cut yours own for noise also. That is all the good it does me! But then, the grandkids want come to see me if I don't have the extra stations. So what do you do? I like the new disease the cheater thought up.




RPS. I'm using that for sure!


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dotfrank wrote:


kiakar wrote:


vivico1 wrote:
ROFL!!!!! I am laughing so hard here. Talking about cheating, Saturday Night Live is on the tv behind me and this cheating husband is saying its not that, hes been diagnosed with RPS, restless P**** (male member) syndrome! LOL LOL and they are doing a commercial for it like for Viagra or Restless Leg Syndrome! oh man, I got to remember that phrase for cheating men...they definately got RPS!! :smileyvery-happy: musta been Charles' problem hehe




Sorry my elbow hit the wrong button. It is never anything on tv. I pay too much for cable and there is never never anything worth watching. Viv, I see you cut yours own for noise also. That is all the good it does me! But then, the grandkids want come to see me if I don't have the extra stations. So what do you do? I like the new disease the cheater thought up.




RPS. I'm using that for sure!


Now I will have to read all your books from now on, just to see that line Dot LOL :smileywink: It is a great line LOL.
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