10-27-2007 02:26 PM
10-28-2007 12:49 PM
Just finished it this morning. Anyone else disappointed with the construction of the ending? There were pages and pages of details of their trek following the Count to Transylvania, and three pages of the anti-climatic encounter with Drac. Yes, I knew in advance how the book would end, but was it just me that felt this finale was less than it should have been?
When Bram Stoker adapted his play for the stage he did the same thing. After all the scenes in the parlor, Van Helsing and company chase Dracula to his crypt and then stake him. The scene takes about three minutes. Most theatres spend longer changing the scenery on stage. I also read another one of Stoker's books, can't find it at the momement that did the same thing. Great mood and atmosphere and then it was over.
10-29-2007 12:01 AM
That brings to mind The Colorado Kid, a neo-noir novel that Stephen King wrote for Hard Case Crime back in 2005. Great read but the ending is, well, unconventional. It was so surprising that at first I was disappointed because I just assumed that it would end like any other mystery but then I realized how wonderful that unexpected variation can be. That's exactly how I felt about the conclusion of Dracula.
From Barnes & Noble
The Barnes & Noble Review
Stephen King is the undisputed master of horror; but The Colorado Kid is a dramatic departure for the iconic author of innumerable blood-curdling classics like The Shining, Carrie, Cujo, and Pet Sematary. A pulp-style mystery about two salty newspapermen and their investigation into the unresolved death of a man found on an island off the coast of Maine, The Colorado Kid will have readers speculating until the very last page -- and long afterward.
Stephanie McCann is a journalism major doing an internship at a newspaper on Moose-Lookit Island. Two veteran editors show her the ropes -- and let her in on a bizarre mystery that has gone unsolved for more than 20 years. When an unidentified man was found dead on a beach, the local police wrote it off as an accident. But the newsmen continued to dig deeper, vowing to unlock the dead man's secrets…
King has a unique way of completely redefining genres, and his homage to the pulp mystery -- a kind of deconstruction of the traditional blueprint -- is no different. What many readers may expect (an unsolved mystery, an investigation, and a neat and tidy explanation) doesn't quite happen. But because of King's unparalleled storytelling prowess, it doesn't even matter; in fact, his unusual conclusion is perfect. He writes in the afterword: "What I found out writing The Colorado Kid was that maybe…it's the beauty of the mystery that allows us to live sane as we pilot our fragile bodies through this demolition-derby world. Wanting might be better than knowing."
The Colorado Kid is a must-read for mystery aficionados as well as all those who call themselves Stephen King fans. It's an unusual and thought-provoking addition to the author's already mammoth body of work. Paul Goat Allen
10-29-2007 05:00 PM
Sadness isn't sadness
In a black jacket
10-29-2007 09:16 PM
Thanks for moderating this group. I did enjoy reading "Dracula".
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11-02-2007 11:47 PM
Yes, this thread and all the rest have been very interesting – and incredibly enlightening. Thank you for all the great links, by the way. This month has flown by and I come away with a whole new appreciation of Stoker's classic and its continued relevance today.
I really gives me a bittersweet feeling – there are so many wonderful and underappreciated classics out there that really deserve to be featured in forums such as this – my hope is that forums like these will spur "old" readers like myself to revisit classics we've read decades earlier and motivate younger readers who may not have read books like Dracula before to experience them for the first time. Looking through my bookshelves, I could pull out dozens of "classics" that I would love to re-read but because of my schedule for reviewing new releases, probably never will...
Thanks again to everyone for a great discussion!
11-16-2007 02:40 PM - edited 11-16-2007 03:04 PM
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11-17-2007 01:05 PM - edited 11-17-2007 01:35 PM
But it is interesting that the duck and the dragon are derived from the same root. You might get the sense that some animals evolved long necks, like swans, while others seem to have evolved the sharp teeth to bite into them, something like a coevolution. A tiger will grab it's prey by the neck, draining its blood until depleted- considered by many to be more "humane" or "gentler" than the way humans may "kill", and I think Dracula is depicted in this way to some degree. But humans usually associate "the good" with support of the weak or fragile. Something that overpowers us, or can kill us, is usually evil. But Nature seems to have both good and evil, each negates the other, leaving the planet earth to contend with another day and night.
I think Stoker also raises the question, and this may have been done in the movies, whether there may evolve or has already evolved a subclass of vampires or "vampirelike" people which prey on humans. In some way its Nature's own way of cleansing itself. It is questionable whether one side or the other will dominate. Remember that modern invention and trade has increased our time in the light, and perhaps, collectively losing needed sleep, the humans are now "out of sync" with the world's natural rotation, with no way to correct itself. Or consider that we are, afterall, children of the earth, and perhaps the earth is finally remembering, or perhaps growing "older", asserting its independence from the sun and the moon, and will stop rotating altogether.
PS- There is still a lot of work that needs to be done on earth's formation or even our own sleeping habits- so, this was a good one. The synthesis of biofuels is also in there- very relevant to our day. The annexation of Texas as a result of a need for fuel is also insinuated. We've formed a union and we needed to fuel it- its interesting that some of the western states had treaties. Well, what more did you want to know?
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11-19-2007 01:10 PM - edited 11-19-2007 01:15 PM
I think I pointed out the star as something emblematic of will with sharp edges. It's also interesting that Japan chooses the round, red circle for its flag. And, of course, we could think of the entire city of London stretching its influence or collective will in the form of train tracks throughout the countryside. And finally, its as if the earth grew some thorns in the form of spires, castles, and buildings, turning the entire earth into some kind of ratchet, with the crescent moon as its pawl, preventing the earth from moving. Indeed, Mina Harker screams "death!" when she links her mind to Dracula's onboard the Catherina, listening to sounds of a ratchet and chain.
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11-20-2007 12:29 PM - edited 11-20-2007 01:00 PM
So, A force or reaction can be countered by an equal and opposite reaction. Death would be a "canceling" of forces or inertia, as described in my previous post. Moreover, tools can aid me to "undo" or create a "counterforce." I use a screwdriver to unscrew. I use a key to unlock. My hammer has a head to nail, and I use the other end to pry open, etc. etc.
To go back to "my trashing religion" theme, is morose but interesting. A will, physically manifested in, I would venture to guess, sharp nails, "nailed" Jesus Christ to the cross. Its arguable whether his "nailing" was the will of the people, the Romans, God or JC himself. I don't know why a counterforce wasn't present to unscrew or pry JC off the cross at the time of his crucifixtion. Its as if the force of the nails are still being felt. There may have been guards present at the time of the crucifixtion, or maybe humanity is still waiting for a "counterforce."
PS- You may want to take a look at Newton's Laws. The worry would be a force on earth so great that would cause inertia of the earth. A watch or a clock, has something akin to a ratchet and pawl, and its possible that time, or our concept of time, would be that force that may eventually make the world stand still....
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11-26-2007 10:24 AM - edited 11-26-2007 10:44 AM
PS- I would obviously consider luggage to be in the same category, obviously.
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