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06-03-2008 12:15 AM
Everyman wrote:
At the same time, the police reaction was perfectly understandable. Most times when a teen aged girl from (as someone noted above) a mildly dysfunctional family giving inadequate attention to the daughter goes missing, it's because she has chosen to go off somewhere with a guy or to a big city or for some other reason of her own volition. it's perfectly reasonable for the police not to assume the worst right away.
And also, given the record of dysfunctional families, it's also entirely appropriate for them to wonder whether one or both of the parents had something to do with it.
I find the description of the official response to be very believable.
crimefighter4444 wrote:
i think the nonchalant attitude of the police and the anguish it caused was the setting for the entire path of the story. the author set this trend brilliantly.
The interesting thing here is that the police did take Kim's disappearance very seriously. They deposed the family and then friends to make certain no one was hiding information on her whereabouts. They were instrumental in organizing the search parties and liaisoning with those involved in the search. Where O'Nan strikes gold is in his portrayal of two anguished parents for whom the police's efforts will never be enough until their daughter is returned to them. The police's actions (search dogs are pointless unless you know where to pick up Kim's scent) are eminently reasonable, but of course they would not seem that way to a grieving, terrified, and frustrated parent.
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06-03-2008 12:16 AM
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06-03-2008 12:20 AM
tt4now87 wrote:I really liked that each chapter was from one character's perspective. I felt like I was able to get to know each character.The family seemed like they really weren't connecting with each other at the time of the disappearance, but still knew Kim enough to know exactly what she must have been wearing and if anything was missing or out of place in her room.The secret between the friends had me hooked. I was suspicious at first of J.P. and then of Nina, but never really of Hinch. I guess I was looking for the least obvious person to be involved.
What? Hinch, the secret? He is involved in this? OK, dont answer that, I dont really want to know.
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06-03-2008 12:26 AM
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06-03-2008 01:01 AM
One of the reasons these early chapters feel so ‘real’ to us is that we have all seen similar situations played out - endlessly - on cable TV news shows. There is now an acknowledged ‘formula’ for keeping your family’s tragedy in the headlines, above all the other tragedies that the news channels could choose to follow. The restrained but clearly grieving mother. The volunteers, the posters, the candlelight vigils. It’s meant to break your heart - the emotional grab - but at the same time mobilize you to keep the missing person’s face in mind, to watch for certain vehicles, to call in with any tiny bit of information you may come across.
I found the behavior of the police frustrating but completely understandable. Much as we understand how woefully unprepared the average 18 year old is to take on the mantle of full adulthood, the fact is that they are recognized as such and entitled to treatment as an adult. They can vote, they can marry, they can enter into contracts and yes, they can decide to take off and not let anyone know where they are. It’s called privacy, and as a nation we’ve fought very hard to maintain that right. It’s sometimes a shock for the parents who pay the bills to be denied access to their college student’s grades, or to her medical records, but that’s the way it is.
I had read a couple of Stewart O’Nan’s books in the past and enjoyed his writing, if not always the subject matter. He does delve into the darker side of things. But I agree with the previous poster who suggested that O’Nan is the best writer we’ve had access to through First Look. He is very skilled at developing believable characters, drawing a sense of place, and plotting a story that draws the reader in. I was engrossed enough that I went ahead and finished the book although I had intended to pace my reading to the discussion boards this time.
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06-03-2008 02:31 AM
BookWoman718 wrote:One of the reasons these early chapters feel so ‘real’ to us is that we have all seen similar situations played out - endlessly - on cable TV news shows. There is now an acknowledged ‘formula’ for keeping your family’s tragedy in the headlines, above all the other tragedies that the news channels could choose to follow. The restrained but clearly grieving mother. The volunteers, the posters, the candlelight vigils. It’s meant to break your heart - the emotional grab - but at the same time mobilize you to keep the missing person’s face in mind, to watch for certain vehicles, to call in with any tiny bit of information you may come across.
I am impressed with how much O'Nan has made me feel immersed in this novel. I agree that part of it is because the mere idea of a loved one going missing is something that terrifies everyone because it is so played out in the media. We can imagine how awful it would be and we identify with the possibility of it. O'Nan uses that common fear and empathy that we feel and heightens it by his prose. You experience the sights and sounds of your everyday life that are normally unnoticed in the background. As anyone that has experienced a life changing event knows, your world does suddenly become more vivid. I think O'Nan's writing does a wonderful job of setting up very realistic characters that we can identify with. I love that not only is a picture of the narrative created, it's as if there is a soundtrack as well. Maybe that's what the title means? ....nah probably not.
The only thing I would have liked to be different, is to have each perspective chapter labeled by the character's name at the start. That was slightly confusing to me but not enough to be a problem.
I think the characters' home and social lives are very typical and "normal". Teens keep things from their parents. Even very well behaved and "respectable" teenagers are exposed to drugs, alcohol and sex on a daily basis in most of the US. Some get bogged down in stuff while others are able to navigate through it. The same applies to the adults. Are they dysfunctional? I don't know of ANY family that could completely avoid that label.
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06-03-2008 07:18 AM
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06-03-2008 08:15 AM
martinaf wrote:Anybody whos teenager has ever broken their curfew perfectly understands what is going on - as a mother /father you cycle between anger and despair and your mind tries tocome up with a solution.
Having raised 5 children, I remember those feelings of OMG, what if something serious happened to them, immediately followed by when they get home I'm going to kill them! Jo
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06-03-2008 09:45 AM
What did you think of the early chapters of the book (Chapter 1 through Chapter 13)? I really liked how realistic they were, which made the reading go fast.These opening chapters deal primarily with the response of Kim's family and friends to her disappearance. How would you describe their initial reactions? I was frustrated with Kim's friends because they kept stalling in giving any information to the police, which I don't think they realized at the time how important it was to give as much information to the authorities as possible when someone is missing. I thought her parents response was appropriate and although they didn't know their daughter as well as they thought, they knew in their gut that something was not right and tried to get everyone else to realize that as well. I was frustrated with them on the law regarding age, because that really is a gray area in maturity level and choices. O'Nan is really good at making these situations as real to life as possible. I could definitely see this same response from any community. And the sisters response was so true to life in the sense that she's concerned about her older sister, she's also jealous of having lived in her shadow, but she's also not sure initially of whether or not Kim is doing this as some kind of prank.What scenes, moments, or exchanges struck you as meaningful? I was touched by how Kim's dad left the light on for her when she was out late at night, and how when she didn't come home, instead of thinking that she was still out with friends, he knew that something was wrong. I thought O'Nan was showing us, that Kim, with all her faults, was not the kind of girl who did not come home at night and her parents knew that.Are there any clues to Kim's whereabouts in the first chapter, in your opinion? How would you characterize Kim's home life and her social life? I don't think there were any clues, but I definitely think that Kim had a sense of foreboding (or maybe that was just me) throughout the chapter. Something just felt off with her. She took more time to do things, and take care of her responsibilities. I think her home life was that of both parents were probably not as attentive to their daughters lives as the could have been, and there was rivalry between the sisters. But I think there was love in that home, which counterbalanced some of that. I think her social life was hanging out with shallow friends who get drunk and possibly do drugs. I think her social life was more toxic.
Does our impression of Kim from the first chapter change as we begin to see her through the eyes of friends and family? How does their view of Kim change over the course of these early chapters? I think we start to see that she's not as perfect as her sister perceives her to be and she's not as much of the good girl or loving girlfriend we may have thought her to be. But, I like that O'Nan shows with the investigation that under the microscope, who would be? I think my view of Kim changed in the sense that she became more of a person and not so much just a stereotypical character. She has more depth with every new thing we learn about her, which makes me wonder what happened to her even more.All in all - good read so far.
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06-03-2008 09:53 AM
KxBurns wrote:I'm intrigued by this response, noannie. What about Fran's reaction seemed off to you? I find myself surprised by her reaction, too -- but mainly by how well she is able to pull it together. I get the impression she is finding emotional resources she never knew she had.
noannie wrote:I thought the time that the sisters spent together was very touching, now that Kim has disappeared. She seems to be a very normal teenager with her close friends, but she is keeping secrets from her family. I found it hard to connect with the mother, maybe because this book is written by a man. I didn't feel she grieved the way a normal mother would if her daughter disappeared without a trace. Did anyone else feel this disconnect or is it just me?noannie
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06-03-2008 09:59 AM
sile wrote:I agree with you. I don't see them as dysfunctional, although I am not sure Mom is as intune with the girls as she thinks she is.I can't see that this family was dysfunctional. Maybe things have changed in families over the many years I raised my daughters but I do not think I would call this family dysfunctional at all. They loved together, played together. Times do change and the changes in this story was typical of working mom and working dad and children driving and so forth that can easily go wrong in a child's life but Dysfunctional NO,I will have to disagree.
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06-03-2008 10:01 AM
In general, some people steel themselves against breakdown by focusing on the task at hand.
In the story, the most important thing was to find Kim. To break down would be admitting that there is no hope and to lose control of the situation.
Besides, who's to say that they did not shed more tears than we saw? If they did, I am grateful that is was kept private. Far too many public displays of grief nowadays!
streamsong wrote:
In the Fran thread, I asked whether anyone cried for Kim in this first section. I rescanned the chapters after posting and found a few tears. Fran dabs at her eyes when she first talks to Nina. That night the family shares a group hug and a few tears. And yet, I feel the emotion is missing. I can see someone asking "How are Fran and Ed holding up?" and someone else replying--"They are amazing. Look at all they are doing!"No one breaks down. And yet if you don't break down when your daughter/sister/best friend has disappeared and you fear, as Fran says her first impression is, that 'someone has taken her', when do you break down?A crises breaks some families apart and pulls other families together. It will be interesting to see whether this crises makes this family more emotionally honest and connected or if it leaves them shattered.
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06-03-2008 10:05 AM
darma51 wrote:I agree that the response by the police seemed nonchalant but couldn't it also be that they didn't want to give the family false hopes. They only report what is fact not speculation. Although they may speculate they aren't about to let the family know it all, not just yet.
not only false hope but I think in the beginning the local police saw this not as a crime but as a runaway.
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06-03-2008 10:06 AM
Turner_A wrote:How do you describe their initial reactions?
I think that Lindsey did not know how to feel. I feel like Lindsey did not want to go out of her way with helping her mom and/or dad because it may make her realize that Kim really is missing.A. Turner
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06-03-2008 10:11 AM
I agree. Fran and Ed are "going through the motions". They have formed a pattern for their lives and settled into a habituated existence with each other. They are disconnected physically and emotionally, only maintaining the outward appearance of a relationship. And they both think they are "getting away with it" because neither one says anything.
ladychatterly wrote:The relationship between Fran and Ed comes across as disconnected, there is a lack of real communication between them, as though they've been doing their own thing for a long time.
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06-03-2008 10:12 AM
reina10 wrote:
I guess i will be the first one to say this. I didn't like the characters in this book. I felt the entire family was living in their own little world until Kim went missing. Kim seem ed a bit too self-centered- even for a typical teenager. Fran and Ed's marriage was obviously suffering, while Kim's relationship with her sister was weak (at best). I would have liked to learn more about Kim, or learned more about the inner thoughts of her family.
I found the family image very true to having 2 teenagers in the house and both parents working. My daughter at that age was very self centered and has only in her late twenties come to value my opinions on things. And I don't see where the marriage was suffering either, I see this family thrown into waters that none of us could possibly understand unless we went through this kind of trauma. And I find it a testament to them that they stayed together through all of this.