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06-02-2008 08:30 PM
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06-02-2008 08:49 PM
I agree with you. I don't see them as dysfunctional, although I am not sure Mom is as intune with the girls as she thinks she is.I can't see that this family was dysfunctional. Maybe things have changed in families over the many years I raised my daughters but I do not think I would call this family dysfunctional at all. They loved together, played together. Times do change and the changes in this story was typical of working mom and working dad and children driving and so forth that can easily go wrong in a child's life but Dysfunctional NO,I will have to disagree.
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06-02-2008 08:52 PM
I totally agree. J.P. fascinates me. I feel like he wants to take the relationship deeper, but Kim was holding him at arm's length and now he has a chance to get to know her in a different way and perhaps prove he is worthy of more than a summer fling?
Kegsoccer wrote:I may be in the minority, but in the very first few pages I was too overwhelmed by details. Once I got past those, and to the 'practicing driving' scene I was much more comfortable. I thought that scene was particularly well done, giving us a glimpse of the sisterly affection.I thought all the family/friends reactions were believable, but I was most interested in J.P.'s reaction and actions. I thought the tension between him and the father worked really well, and his dedication to finding Kim was clearly shown.
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06-02-2008 09:00 PM
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06-02-2008 09:03 PM
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06-02-2008 09:19 PM
WhiteHouseQuartet wrote:I was touched by the morning spent with her sister. It adds so much depth to their relationship and adds a measure of comfort later in the book. Their relationship would have seemed a bit flat without that morning's interactions.StephanieOklahoma
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06-02-2008 09:21 PM
I like the fact that she was flawed too. Not the nicest girl around, but a typical teenager. And I agree, her family rang true in it's rushed quality.
Jeanie0522 wrote:What I really like about Kim's character is that she is a normal girl that you could find in any small town in America. She was a nice girl, but not perfect. I think that makes the story seem more real. Her family is somewhat dysfunctional too...exactly like everyone else's.I also liked that she and her sister had that time together. Kim woke up with a hangover and kind of wanted to blow off the driving lesson, but for whatever reason, she took her sister out that day. She also got to spend the day with her friends who were important to her. The thoughts of calling in sick to work make you think if only one thing had changed that day, she may not have gone missing.
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06-02-2008 09:32 PM
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Re: Early Chapters - Chapter One - Description of the Person When Last Seen (1-15)
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06-02-2008 09:45 PM
KxBurns wrote:What did you think of the early chapters of the book (Chapter 1 through Chapter 13)? These opening chapters deal primarily with the response of Kim's family and friends to her disappearance. How would you describe their initial reactions? What scenes, moments, or exchanges struck you as meaningful?Are there any clues to Kim's whereabouts in the first chapter, in your opinion? How would you characterize Kim's home life and her social life?Does our impression of Kim from the first chapter change as we begin to see her through the eyes of friends and family? How does their view of Kim change over the course of these early chapters?Karen
Since I have just started reading this book, I will not read the others' comments because these sections contain quite a few spoilers in themselves if you have not gotten to chapter thirteen. I will place in the message subject; the chapter title and page numbers to avoid spoilers for folks just starting out.
It is interesting to me in the first chapter to meet Kim and experience her and her own thoughts first before we lose her. I think that this was very powerful and this revealed a lot about how Kim thought and what her outlook might be.
I found it difficult to start navigating through the book to find the cut off points because none of the chapters were numbered and there was not any table of contents. I am sure that this might be just an issue with the proof and will be taken care of prior to publication.
On page one, I especially liked the peek inside what were really Kim's likes and dislikes versus how family members chose to interpret or misinterpret them. We learn that "She did not hate the town, as years later, her sister would tell one lover. Not Kim, the good daughter. She loved the lake, how on a clear day you could see all the way to Canada from the bluffs. She loved the river, winding hidden in its mossy gorge of shale down to the harbor. She even loved the slumping Victorian mansions along Grandview her father was always trying to sell, and the sandstone churches downtown and the stainless steel diner across from the post office. She was just eighteen." I think one impression that I already have is that Stewart O'Nan is probably the best writer that we have had the privilege of reading during our First Looks. I like very much his imagery and style.
I found it interesting in a way, the impression the parents had of J.P. In fact, it sort of showed how driven by image and superficial impressions they were. O'Nan points out, "If anything, she was a bad influence on him, but all they saw was the loser who might ruin her future." Kim's parents obviously saw only what they wanted to see and were very blind to reality about themselves and their daughters.
I loved what could have been the family motto: "All a realtor has is his good name."
Eerily the chapter ends and the reader realizes that it is Kim who is missing and gone most likely forever. It would appear that she had gotten home safely. My questions were: did someone intrude the home, watch and follow her home, did she have her top on when she got out of the car and came into the house, did someone follow her in while she was changing, did she change and then take off for work and get waylaid. When in the forty five minutes from the time she left and got home was she abducted? It pretty much had to happen in that small amount of time because Nina made it back and to work in about 32 minutes and called Kim at about quarter past three and did not get an answer. Kim had to have met trouble by then. By the time her family called the police a long 18 hours had past.
You always hear when children are abducted how the first few hours are the crucial ones if they are to be found alive. Chapter One ends ominously.
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06-02-2008 09:51 PM
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06-02-2008 10:24 PM
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06-02-2008 10:28 PM
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06-02-2008 10:39 PM
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06-02-2008 11:05 PM
I agree too. The family does not seem dysfunctional to me at all. I wouldn't even say imperfect because I see them as just normal. I thought Kim is/was a typical teenager, trying to separate herself as she is growing up. I found the early chapters easy to read and all of the characters real. This is what I found myself liking about O'Nan's writing-I could see myself as knowing this family and their friends. I could feel their pain and connect with them. O'Nan makes it easy. Early on I also found myself wondering about Kim's friends and the secrets they had but I didn't feel they were being sinister, just typical teens worried about what kind of trouble they might get into instead of realizing information they had might help the police in their investigation. Again, their secrets make the characters real.
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kiakar wrote:
I can't see that this family was dysfunctional. Maybe things have changed in families over the many years I raised my daughters but I do not think I would call this family dysfunctional at all. They loved together, played together. Times do change and the changes in this story was typical of working mom and working dad and children driving and so forth that can easily go wrong in a child's life but Dysfunctional NO,I will have to disagree.
I don't think this family was dysfunctional either. Dysfunctional is a too commonly used term for families with normal problems. JoI agree -- I think the family is imperfect but within the realm of a typical family. They seem pretty distant from each other in a way that I imagine to be pretty common in this day and age. As boo27 points out, there are some issues lurking just below the surface.In my opinion, one of the strengths of these early chapters is meeting each family member as an individual and watching them struggle with their shortcomings in the face of this tremendous crisis. It will be interesting to see if these issues recede or become more pronounced as the family is exposed to additional strain. My sympathy for the family makes me hope it is the former.
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06-02-2008 11:10 PM
Jo6353 wrote:
kiakar wrote:
I can't see that this family was dysfunctional. Maybe things have changed in families over the many years I raised my daughters but I do not think I would call this family dysfunctional at all. They loved together, played together. Times do change and the changes in this story was typical of working mom and working dad and children driving and so forth that can easily go wrong in a child's life but Dysfunctional NO,I will have to disagree.
I don't think this family was dysfunctional either. Dysfunctional is a too commonly used term for families with normal problems. However, I do think that the police's hands are tied in this matter. If someone doesn't want to be found it's their RIGHT to not be found and the police can't violate it. We've tied our own hands with too many RIGHTS! Ok, I'm off my soapbox now. Jo
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06-02-2008 11:41 PM
I think that Lindsey did not know how to feel. I feel like Lindsey did not want to go out of her way with helping her mom and/or dad because it may make her realize that Kim really is missing.
I enjoyed the interaction at the DQ between Kim and Lindsey. Before the sisters leave the house, you get a taste of their relationship. They are just average teen sisters who get moody with each other. But, you see the attitudes go away and Kim praising Lindsey for her good driving skills and then taking her to lunch.
In the first chapter, there really seems to be no clues as to Kim's whereabouts. However, I am considering maybe a customer from Conoco could be involved. If Kim works the same time every day, then a customer abducting her could be a possibility. I am questioning how Nina may not know anything about Kim's disappearance even though they left at the same time and went in the same direction.
You realize that she is pretty much a regular 18 year old that never stays home. She seems to maybe have a better relationship with her dad than her mom.
No, I viewed her as a normal 18 year old. She is enjoying her summer before leaving town for school.
At first, they probably felt that she was being irresponsible. Now, since she is still missing, they probably feel they should have placed more boundaries on Kim and this would not have happened. I am sure that they both realize that they should have spent more time with her.
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06-02-2008 11:42 PM
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06-02-2008 11:51 PM
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06-03-2008 12:08 AM
ELee wrote:I thought that interesting as well. The conflict between chronological age and level of maturity was an issue here, and something that I think could be applied to the develpment of all the characters in general.
pheath wrote:
I also found it interesting that Kim's age complicated the investigation. While I know that there have to be hard and fast rules for when someone is considered an adult vs. a child, I agreed with Ed and Fran that this should have been treated more like a missing child. It's a dilemma for which there won't be a perfect answer for all occasions.
So much of this book's ability to draw you in seems to be in the little details O'Nan pulls off so deftly, instead of melodrama. This is a perfect example--I can remember thinking I was an adult and perfectly capable of handling myself at the age of fifteen, let alone eighteen, and was offended anytime someone expressed an opinion to the contrary.
Now that I'm ::cough:: older, I can't believe I thought I was an adult at twenty. And I doubt it would have mattered to Fran and Ed if Kim had disappeared at thirty-five--she'd still be a missing child to them, regardless of the police's official take.