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06-02-2008 10:12 AM
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06-02-2008 11:51 AM
I think, therefore I drive people nuts.
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06-02-2008 12:30 PM
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06-02-2008 12:34 PM
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06-02-2008 12:48 PM
crimefighter4444 wrote:
ed is the strength of this family. when his daughter disappears and he soon finds out that there is nothing he can do to find her he goes into this form of hibernation as a form of forgiveness to himself for his ineptitude to correct this horrible situation. my heart went out to him as i pictured myself in the same situation. the author plays on this fact and keeps the reader turning pages.
I think, therefore I drive people nuts.
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06-02-2008 01:06 PM
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06-02-2008 01:19 PM
Jeanie0522 wrote:I think Ed and his family had viewed him as the strong one before Kim went missing. Ed did not have the support network and friends that Fran and even Lindsay had. He felt guilty and responsible. Fran had always left the hard stuff to Ed. Ed looked the other way as Fran drank her nightly bottle of wine. As Fran became stronger, drank less and needed him less, Ed felt depressed and worthless. It was interesting to see the role reversal over time.
I think this is a great observation. It would be an interesting question as to whether or not Ed searched for the support network and didn't find it or if he simply didn't look for it. While Fran has a number of people (including Ed) propping her up, Ed seems to have nowhere to turn. Was this by choice or circumstance?
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06-02-2008 01:25 PM
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I think this is a great observation. It would be an interesting question as to whether or not Ed searched for the support network and didn't find it or if he simply didn't look for it. While Fran has a number of people (including Ed) propping her up, Ed seems to have nowhere to turn. Was this by choice or circumstance?
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06-02-2008 01:27 PM
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Interesting perspective. I didn't see him as the strength of the family, but as the titular head who, when things fell apart, abdicated the hard things to his wife while he did the easy job of just going out looking to avoid having to deal with his family's emotional needs.
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ed is the strength of this family. when his daughter disappears and he soon finds out that there is nothing he can do to find her he goes into this form of hibernation as a form of forgiveness to himself for his ineptitude to correct this horrible situation. my heart went out to him as i pictured myself in the same situation. the author plays on this fact and keeps the reader turning pages.
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06-02-2008 02:25 PM
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06-02-2008 02:56 PM
Everyman wrote:
My basic reaction to Ed is that he's a pretty pathetic excuse for a man.
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06-02-2008 03:05 PM
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Jeanie0522 wrote:Ed did not have the support network and friends that Fran and even Lindsay had.
I think this is a great observation. It would be an interesting question as to whether or not Ed searched for the support network and didn't find it or if he simply didn't look for it. While Fran has a number of people (including Ed) propping her up, Ed seems to have nowhere to turn. Was this by choice or circumstance?
Neither Fran nor Ed seemed particularly connected to their community--Fran knows (some of) Kim's friends well enough to call them, but her third call is Connie (who's both a co-worker and a friend) and her fourth is the police. Although the community mobilizes and helps with the search for a while, I got the distinct impression that Fran's support network consists of mostly her friends from work, as opposed to people who are parents of her children's friends, neighbors, or people who share a hobby or are part of a common organization. Even their family (Ed's mother, the aunt and uncle) seem peripheral.
If Fran's circle of possible acquaintances is depleted, Ed's is even more so. As he finally returns to work, he feels like a "greenhorn": "It was easier for Fran. Connie and Jocelyn had been part of the search from the beginning, and knew exactly where Fran was at. While he got along with everyone at his office, he didn't consider them friends. He might shoot a round of golf with Phil, or take Jeri to lunch at the diner, and they'd bitch and gossip and have a laugh, but he never shared his problems with them" (185). Kim's disappearance drives a rift between Ed and his friend Perry at the Sheriff's department as he thinks Perry should be doing more to help the investigation.
Maybe it's not even so much that they lack the support network at the beginning as that the kinds of friends they have can't keep up with their emotional needs (except for Connie and Joyce, who almost thrive on the tragedy--like the woman who eventually finds Kim).
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06-02-2008 03:05 PM
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06-02-2008 03:34 PM
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06-02-2008 05:05 PM
Everyman wrote:
Interesting perspective. I didn't see him as the strength of the family, but as the titular head who, when things fell apart, abdicated the hard things to his wife while he did the easy job of just going out looking to avoid having to deal with his family's emotional needs.
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ed is the strength of this family. when his daughter disappears and he soon finds out that there is nothing he can do to find her he goes into this form of hibernation as a form of forgiveness to himself for his ineptitude to correct this horrible situation. my heart went out to him as i pictured myself in the same situation. the author plays on this fact and keeps the reader turning pages.
I agree with you. He did take the easy way out. However, what else is there for him to do? But both parents seem to be very short on the emotional support end. At this point in the story, I see the emotions coming from fear, rather than grief. The fear of death, loss, not knowing, etc. is the driving force right now. When someone goes missing, the family left behind desperately need each other to allay their own fears. Here, they jumped right into emotional denial. And each member denied the right of the others to express their fear. They set the stage for a complete family collapse. I hope they find some way to connect to each other and give each other support. I fear for them. The father disappears in the search group. The mother disappears in her organization group, and poor Lindsey, just hides in her shell. I feel very sad for all of them.
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06-02-2008 05:24 PM
If you think that's typical male behavior, you're running with the wrong males.
kiakar wrote:
Everyman wrote:
My basic reaction to Ed is that he's a pretty pathetic excuse for a man.oh! wow! this I can't believe! To me Ed's behavior is just typical male behavior. They can't show too many emotions and they aren't very good at supporting others in crisis. Not all men but this is just typical behavior.Men have a hard time facing adverity of any kind but losing or missing a daughter is indeed a paralzing position they are put in. But no one reacts the same. He probably cares as much as the rest of the family but isnt allowing himself the privelege of showing. it.
I think, therefore I drive people nuts.
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06-02-2008 07:07 PM
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06-02-2008 07:36 PM
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06-02-2008 08:04 PM
Ed's reaction was interesting to me - almost as though he was living the event entirely differently in his own mind -
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06-02-2008 09:37 PM