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06-15-2008 11:10 PM
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06-16-2008 09:15 AM
One of the best qualities of the book, in my opinion, is that Mr. Onan stays so true to his premise of studying the effects of this tragedy on just the primary family members. It is so tempting to want to spend more time looking at Mimi and her motives or the drug elements or the other kids, but he sticks to just the family so well! Having suffered a similar family tragedy, it is extremely realistic of the tunnel vision the surrounds you as a survivor and of the new priorities that become your way of life.
I think, also, that the greatest survivor guilt is generally suffered by surviving grandparents and Ed's mother is an classic example of this. If parents are not meant, in the greater truths of life, to survive their children, then grandparents are truly at a loss when a young person dies so tragically. Why must they continue to suffer a spent life when one so young and vital is taken? Some things must just be suffered, and no discussion or soul-searching will find a reason for it.
On a scale of 1 to 5, I would give this work a 4+. It's not Tolstoy, but it is a wonderfully written novel and by far the best of the three First Look works that I've read to date.
I've not read any of Mr. O'nan's work before, but have added some of his earlier works to my summer reading list, in hope that they are as intelligent and evocative as this one has been.
Thank you, Barnes & Noble, for this wonderful first look. I look forward to future readings!
Linda Smith
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06-16-2008 09:36 AM
Other than the above and the fact that I too would have enjoyed more details, I felt that the book was not written with details in mind; to me it was written with a focus on creating a sense of connection with this type of event and the devastating aftershocks for those left behind.
In that, O'Nan was mighty successful. For me the book was good and it of course wasn't a good feel type of book; but a successful read nonetheless.
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06-16-2008 10:07 AM
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06-16-2008 11:08 AM
I think Mimi was a kook, but without her tenacity they'd probably still be looking for the remains.
Ed's mom plays several intricate parts in this book, one she gives the offer of money to Ed and Fran to help in the search. She also gives the family an excuse to do something normal by visiting her at the retirement home.
I think the book emphasizes the fact that in an act of random crime no matter where you live or who you are no one is absolutely safe.
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06-16-2008 11:44 AM
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06-16-2008 02:34 PM
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06-16-2008 04:59 PM
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06-16-2008 06:09 PM
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06-16-2008 07:34 PM
COCOSPALS wrote:I kind of felt that Mimi was thrown in as a way to finish up the story in a hurry. I felt the end was rushed, that Mr. O'Nan didn't quite know how to wrap it all together. I did not like how we were left hanging as to how Kim died.
I felt that she was added as a way to bring Kim's remains home and add closure to the family and to the reader. If, at the end of the novel, we were still wondering where her body was I think we'd all feel a little cheated somehow. But, at least this way she does get back home and her family can get some closure (not all since we still don't know how exactly she died). It was a bit of a rush ending, but it worked for me.
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06-16-2008 08:26 PM
I don't read very much modern fiction, so maybe this is a trend I haven't generally encountered, to leave the reader with major -- in this case crucial -- plot elements unresolved, to want the reader to leave the book frustrated by unknowning, since after all that's the way much of life it. If so, in my view that's a good reason to stick with older, classic fiction.
I think, therefore I drive people nuts.
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06-16-2008 08:35 PM
Ah, you're assuming. We don't know that. We don't know whether or no Wade really did kill her. There are major holes in his story (like, how did her car get where it is if he took her off in his car?) And why, if she ran out of gas, didn't she just call somebody (she had her cell phone, didn't she?)
Police are very familiar with false confessions. In fact, one of the unrealistic aspects of the book is that nobody came forward except Wade to confess. In a case with this much publicity, somebody most likely would have.
It is still possible that Woozie killed her to keep her quiet, isn't it?
Let's not assume that we know things we don't really know.
I think, therefore I drive people nuts.
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06-16-2008 08:51 PM
Amber_R wrote:
COCOSPALS wrote:I kind of felt that Mimi was thrown in as a way to finish up the story in a hurry. I felt the end was rushed, that Mr. O'Nan didn't quite know how to wrap it all together. I did not like how we were left hanging as to how Kim died.
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06-16-2008 11:02 PM
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06-17-2008 01:00 AM
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06-17-2008 09:10 AM
Everyman wrote:
I was unhappy with the ending. It seemed rushed, unpersuasive, deux-ex-machina, and frustrating that after this long journey with Kim and her friends and family, we have no idea what really happened to her (other than death), why, or how. I understand now, having read Stewart O'Nan's comments on it in his thread, why he did this, but I still don't like it, and I don't consider it "playing fair" with the reader. If there are rules to fiction, particularly mystery/suspense type fiction, it is that the reader is to find some degree of resolution. Maybe the characters don't, but the reader should. (I, along with many others, had the same objection to a previous First Look book, The Sister.)
I don't read very much modern fiction, so maybe this is a trend I haven't generally encountered, to leave the reader with major -- in this case crucial -- plot elements unresolved, to want the reader to leave the book frustrated by unknowning, since after all that's the way much of life it. If so, in my view that's a good reason to stick with older, classic fiction.
I agree. We all understand his perspective of course; and he was very gracious with his time. But at the end of the day, we end up still feeling the same way. I agree that it isn't up to the reader to come up with their own ending or seek their own resolution and somehow that the resolution or ending that you come up with somehow states something about you (like a Rohrshach Test). I found that so odd an explanation and rationale. For example, I loved my mother and had a great relationship with her; and she could not have done more for her family in a close and intimate way. In reading SFTM, I felt that Fran made many poor decisions and was emotionally walled up; and was not a terrific mother who had good intimate relationships with her girls even before the event. Using O'Nan's explanation, then my conclusions which unfortunately are based upon simply the details that he provided show that I did not relate to my mother because there must have been a lack of intimacy. All I can say and very politely of course is hogwash.
At the end of the day it is still true that major plot elements were unresolved and some details which were included never added up. My feeling is that this is the difference between good or average books and great ones. It appeared to me that things were rushed at the end; before everything gelled. Maybe O'Nan is a very structured person in terms of his work habits and when the time has come for something to be done; then it is deemed finished so he can move on to the next task.
Tolstoy at the other extreme was never satisfied with anything and kept trying to perfect it (over and over again). Of course, we can see the difference with the quality of the output; and he could have certainly used a good editor like Josh when he took his detours; but nonetheless you knew his characters inside and out. They were human by the end of the novel for almost everyone.
Nonetheless, like the author, I have completed the task and am on to something else. I enjoyed the experience and the discourse with my fellow board members.
Bentley
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06-17-2008 10:50 AM
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06-17-2008 04:40 PM
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06-17-2008 05:52 PM
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06-17-2008 08:25 PM
Everyman wrote:
I was unhappy with the ending. It seemed rushed, unpersuasive, deux-ex-machina, and frustrating that after this long journey with Kim and her friends and family, we have no idea what really happened to her (other than death), why, or how. I understand now, having read Stewart O'Nan's comments on it in his thread, why he did this, but I still don't like it, and I don't consider it "playing fair" with the reader. If there are rules to fiction, particularly mystery/suspense type fiction, it is that the reader is to find some degree of resolution. Maybe the characters don't, but the reader should. (I, along with many others, had the same objection to a previous First Look book, The Sister.)
I don't read very much modern fiction, so maybe this is a trend I haven't generally encountered, to leave the reader with major -- in this case crucial -- plot elements unresolved, to want the reader to leave the book frustrated by unknowning, since after all that's the way much of life it. If so, in my view that's a good reason to stick with older, classic fiction.
I have to agree with you. While I understand that the novel was based on a true story, I like a little more resolution. I thought that the novel lost steam after the search ended, and the ending was not very satisfying.