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06-25-2008 09:29 PM
Second, please comment on the selection of Bubble Boy as the movie Lindsay is watching in the opening chapter and on the choice of Madeleine L'Engle and Lloyd Alexander as the authors Kim is reading. I can rather guess the irony and foil of Bubble Boy to the main story, but I am confused as to why Kim was "trying to call back that lost time" (of being a girl, p. 5). A Wrinkle in Time could have symbolism in its very title; I don't know the Lloyd Alexander writings beyond the on-line bookstore listings.
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06-25-2008 09:29 PM
Thanks so much for reading Songs, and for your kind words on Snow Angels. And I'm sure you got what the secret was. J.P. spells it out several times. The saddest thing is that he knows the secret is minor compared to what's happened to Kim, yet, out of misplaced teenaged loyalty, he keeps it until Nina basically tells him not to.
ek wrote:Thank you Mr. O'Nan for allowing us to read your book Songs for the Missing in the First Look Club. I have read two of your other books and really enjoyed Snow Angels. I wasn't sure if I knew what "the secret" was but it looks like I did. I like things spelled out for me, but I love reading and appreciate the opportunity to read another book by you.Elaine
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06-25-2008 09:45 PM
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First, Stewart, thank you for your participation and support of this First Look at your soon-to-be-released Songs for the Missing. The discussions generated here by your book have been a privilege and a gift.
Second, please comment on the selection of Bubble Boy as the movie Lindsay is watching in the opening chapter and on the choice of Madeleine L'Engle and Lloyd Alexander as the authors Kim is reading. I can rather guess the irony and foil of Bubble Boy to the main story, but I am confused as to why Kim was "trying to call back that lost time" (of being a girl, p. 5). A Wrinkle in Time could have symbolism in its very title; I don't know the Lloyd Alexander writings beyond the on-line bookstore listings.
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06-26-2008 11:22 AM
Mine was not so literal, as I considered "Songs" to reference the lament and heartbreak of each person Kim left behind.
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I suppose, as blkeyedsuzy says, it alludes to the songs dedicated to all the missing at the different remembrance ceremonies or on the radio. Kim's is "Somewhere Over the Rainbow," but other people have their particular songs.
chickletta wrote:Throughout the book, I kept feeling I had missed something, and went back to re-read portions. Maybe I truly missed this - but what does the title allude to?
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06-26-2008 11:44 AM
Maria_H wrote:
I guess we can apply our own interpretation to the title.
Mine was not so literal, as I considered "Songs" to reference the lament and heartbreak of each person Kim left behind.
Stewart_ONan wrote:I suppose, as blkeyedsuzy says, it alludes to the songs dedicated to all the missing at the different remembrance ceremonies or on the radio. Kim's is "Somewhere Over the Rainbow," but other people have their particular songs.
chickletta wrote:Throughout the book, I kept feeling I had missed something, and went back to re-read portions. Maybe I truly missed this - but what does the title allude to?
Yeah Maria, it could almost be called "Psalms for the Missing" huh, because psalms were songs often sung out of personal experiences. Of course most were songs of praise but they really were born of something more, and in a book about someone going missing, all those affected would surely have their own psalm about it.
~Those who do not read are no better off than those who can not.~ Chinese proverb
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06-26-2008 04:08 PM
Well-put. And maybe also the idea of songs almost as offerings to the departed, the way the church says a mass for the dead.
Maria_H wrote:
I guess we can apply our own interpretation to the title.
Mine was not so literal, as I considered "Songs" to reference the lament and heartbreak of each person Kim left behind.
Stewart_ONan wrote:I suppose, as blkeyedsuzy says, it alludes to the songs dedicated to all the missing at the different remembrance ceremonies or on the radio. Kim's is "Somewhere Over the Rainbow," but other people have their particular songs.
chickletta wrote:Throughout the book, I kept feeling I had missed something, and went back to re-read portions. Maybe I truly missed this - but what does the title allude to?
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06-26-2008 04:10 PM
Nice. All the psalms borne of suffering, or the psalms sung to give oneself courage.
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Maria_H wrote:
I guess we can apply our own interpretation to the title.
Mine was not so literal, as I considered "Songs" to reference the lament and heartbreak of each person Kim left behind.
Stewart_ONan wrote:I suppose, as blkeyedsuzy says, it alludes to the songs dedicated to all the missing at the different remembrance ceremonies or on the radio. Kim's is "Somewhere Over the Rainbow," but other people have their particular songs.
chickletta wrote:Throughout the book, I kept feeling I had missed something, and went back to re-read portions. Maybe I truly missed this - but what does the title allude to?
Yeah Maria, it could almost be called "Psalms for the Missing" huh, because psalms were songs often sung out of personal experiences. Of course most were songs of praise but they really were born of something more, and in a book about someone going missing, all those affected would surely have their own psalm about it.
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06-26-2008 07:12 PM
Stewart_ONan wrote:Nice. All the psalms borne of suffering, or the psalms sung to give oneself courage.
vivico1 wrote:
Maria_H wrote:
I guess we can apply our own interpretation to the title.
Mine was not so literal, as I considered "Songs" to reference the lament and heartbreak of each person Kim left behind.
Yeah Maria, it could almost be called "Psalms for the Missing" huh, because psalms were songs often sung out of personal experiences. Of course most were songs of praise but they really were born of something more, and in a book about someone going missing, all those affected would surely have their own psalm about it.
I think both. I think that it is through our sufferings that courage can be born and also faith and hope. We are not here on this little planet to never be tested, that would make us stagnant and not much more than before we were born. Everyone's test may not be the same, and some may seem harder than someone else's but I am of the opinion that each of our tests, or pains are our own and not to be gaged against another's. Our pain and how we handle it is our own and so is another person's. If we come out singing in the end, be it to give us courage, or because now we have it or to share what we have learned with others to offer them hope, then maybe that truly is a psalm.
This is why I could not judge the characters in your book, or would not. I didn't think Fran was bad because of this or that or Ed's way of coping was wrong because of this or that. Judging how they reacted to the situation didn't seem the point and to me shouldnt be the point. But thats why I did want to know so much more about what each was thinking, feeling, more details about that and not from their actions. Our actions are often very different from what we are really feeling. I didn't want to guess, I wanted to share with them, the most of what was inside them that could be said. I don't think this is handing things to me on a platter or giving me so much that I won't think on things myself, quite the contrary. The narrator of this tragedy was the god of them all, knowing them all completely. I wanted to hear the psalms of their minds. I don't know if it would make me judge them this way or that, but I do know it would help me understand them, as real live people and through their intimate psalms, maybe I too would grow or learn something more than whats in my own mind.
~Those who do not read are no better off than those who can not.~ Chinese proverb
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06-26-2008 09:16 PM
vivico1 wrote:
Stewart_ONan wrote:Nice. All the psalms borne of suffering, or the psalms sung to give oneself courage.
vivico1 wrote:
Maria_H wrote:
I guess we can apply our own interpretation to the title.
Mine was not so literal, as I considered "Songs" to reference the lament and heartbreak of each person Kim left behind.
Yeah Maria, it could almost be called "Psalms for the Missing" huh, because psalms were songs often sung out of personal experiences. Of course most were songs of praise but they really were born of something more, and in a book about someone going missing, all those affected would surely have their own psalm about it.
I think both. I think that it is through our sufferings that courage can be born and also faith and hope. We are not here on this little planet to never be tested, that would make us stagnant and not much more than before we were born. Everyone's test may not be the same, and some may seem harder than someone else's but I am of the opinion that each of our tests, or pains are our own and not to be gaged against another's. Our pain and how we handle it is our own and so is another person's. If we come out singing in the end, be it to give us courage, or because now we have it or to share what we have learned with others to offer them hope, then maybe that truly is a psalm.
This is why I could not judge the characters in your book, or would not. I didn't think Fran was bad because of this or that or Ed's way of coping was wrong because of this or that. Judging how they reacted to the situation didn't seem the point and to me shouldnt be the point. But thats why I did want to know so much more about what each was thinking, feeling, more details about that and not from their actions. Our actions are often very different from what we are really feeling. I didn't want to guess, I wanted to share with them, the most of what was inside them that could be said. I don't think this is handing things to me on a platter or giving me so much that I won't think on things myself, quite the contrary. The narrator of this tragedy was the god of them all, knowing them all completely. I wanted to hear the psalms of their minds. I don't know if it would make me judge them this way or that, but I do know it would help me understand them, as real live people and through their intimate psalms, maybe I too would grow or learn something more than whats in my own mind.I'm glad you didn't judge the characters, but I do wish you felt you knew them more intimately, since that was my aim--for you to step into their shoes and feel what it's like to be them for a while. But sometimes, for whatever reason, a reader and a book don't connect. Thanks for trying anyway. I do appreciate your time and effort.
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06-26-2008 10:15 PM
Nice. All the psalms borne of suffering, or the psalms sung to give oneself courage.
Stewart_ONan wrote:vivico1 wrote:
Stewart_ONan wrote:
I think both. I think that it is through our sufferings that courage can be born and also faith and hope. We are not here on this little planet to never be tested, that would make us stagnant and not much more than before we were born. Everyone's test may not be the same, and some may seem harder than someone else's but I am of the opinion that each of our tests, or pains are our own and not to be gaged against another's. Our pain and how we handle it is our own and so is another person's. If we come out singing in the end, be it to give us courage, or because now we have it or to share what we have learned with others to offer them hope, then maybe that truly is a psalm.
This is why I could not judge the characters in your book, or would not. I didn't think Fran was bad because of this or that or Ed's way of coping was wrong because of this or that. Judging how they reacted to the situation didn't seem the point and to me shouldnt be the point. But thats why I did want to know so much more about what each was thinking, feeling, more details about that and not from their actions. Our actions are often very different from what we are really feeling. I didn't want to guess, I wanted to share with them, the most of what was inside them that could be said. I don't think this is handing things to me on a platter or giving me so much that I won't think on things myself, quite the contrary. The narrator of this tragedy was the god of them all, knowing them all completely. I wanted to hear the psalms of their minds. I don't know if it would make me judge them this way or that, but I do know it would help me understand them, as real live people and through their intimate psalms, maybe I too would grow or learn something more than whats in my own mind.
Hey, at least while you have been here, you have explained much more about the characters, and who they were and what they felt and why. A lot of your convos with us clarified some things and some things surprised us. So really, maybe in a way, it was letting us inside your head about them that counted. Here, I came to understand them through your eyes, their creator. Interesting place to be!
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06-27-2008 04:47 PM
Thanks again.
vivico1 wrote:Nice. All the psalms borne of suffering, or the psalms sung to give oneself courage.
Stewart_ONan wrote:vivico1 wrote:
Stewart_ONan wrote:
I think both. I think that it is through our sufferings that courage can be born and also faith and hope. We are not here on this little planet to never be tested, that would make us stagnant and not much more than before we were born. Everyone's test may not be the same, and some may seem harder than someone else's but I am of the opinion that each of our tests, or pains are our own and not to be gaged against another's. Our pain and how we handle it is our own and so is another person's. If we come out singing in the end, be it to give us courage, or because now we have it or to share what we have learned with others to offer them hope, then maybe that truly is a psalm.
This is why I could not judge the characters in your book, or would not. I didn't think Fran was bad because of this or that or Ed's way of coping was wrong because of this or that. Judging how they reacted to the situation didn't seem the point and to me shouldnt be the point. But thats why I did want to know so much more about what each was thinking, feeling, more details about that and not from their actions. Our actions are often very different from what we are really feeling. I didn't want to guess, I wanted to share with them, the most of what was inside them that could be said. I don't think this is handing things to me on a platter or giving me so much that I won't think on things myself, quite the contrary. The narrator of this tragedy was the god of them all, knowing them all completely. I wanted to hear the psalms of their minds. I don't know if it would make me judge them this way or that, but I do know it would help me understand them, as real live people and through their intimate psalms, maybe I too would grow or learn something more than whats in my own mind.I'm glad you didn't judge the characters, but I do wish you felt you knew them more intimately, since that was my aim--for you to step into their shoes and feel what it's like to be them for a while. But sometimes, for whatever reason, a reader and a book don't connect. Thanks for trying anyway. I do appreciate your time and effort.
Hey, at least while you have been here, you have explained much more about the characters, and who they were and what they felt and why. A lot of your convos with us clarified some things and some things surprised us. So really, maybe in a way, it was letting us inside your head about them that counted. Here, I came to understand them through your eyes, their creator. Interesting place to be!
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06-28-2008 06:33 PM
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