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03-03-2008 06:59 PM
yes, which is somewhat metaphorical of their distinct and opposite personalities.
Everyman wrote:
Thayer wrote:
Ginny mentions in the first chapter that she has "lived here all my life and, before me, my mother lived here all her life and, before her, her father and grandfather." It's as if there is never any question as to being anywhere else.
Vivi, of course, is totally the opposite, living all her adult life somewhere else.
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03-03-2008 07:02 PM
...which is somewhat the beauty of all of this speculation at this point, don't you agree? As we progress in the story I daresay the majority of our insights may prove to be empty theories. This is what makes it exciting.
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In addition, Everyman, what you could be saying is that I'll find out later in the book to whom the home belongs??
Since I haven't read beyond Chapter 5 yet, I have no idea whether or not we'll find out. We'll have to see! Though I'm not sure whether it's going to be of any importance to the story. I might be barking up a dead and empty tree.
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03-03-2008 07:09 PM
I thought the 20 min. was interesting as well. It showed me that Ginny is obsessed with time. Anxiety over the visit? Another reason? Reading on...... lol
detailmuse wrote:For me, a surprising (and believable) aspect of Ginny's obsession with time is her focus on her sister being 20 minutes late -- after a 50-year absence! I agree with other commenters that Ginny seems already to have lost track of a present-day time frame.I'm also curious about Ginny calling her parents Maud and Clive. Whether it's descriptive of character or setting/period will depend on what Vivi calls them.
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03-03-2008 07:37 PM
blkeyesuzi wrote:
I don't know...this place has been in the family for generations. It's HOME, so I would imagine that someone could feel that this place is a safe refuge that is always waiting for you to return, regardless of the amount of time you've been away.
It may not be a matter of illness or money, but a matter of timing...it's time for the sisters to be together again. To resolve their issues or renew their relationship before time runs out.
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03-03-2008 07:41 PM
Mselet wrote:I'm an opening line, kind of girl, and it's interesting that, in our discussion of Ginny's obsession with time, she actually begins the narrative with a chronological reference, "It's ten to two in the afternoon and I've been waiting for my little sister, Vivi, since one-thirty."Trina
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03-03-2008 07:59 PM
I wonder whether you can get SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) from staying indoors all the time.
mwinasu wrote:Wow, don't know if I can add anything serious. What I am thinking will probably just muddy the water. Ginny sounds a lot like a cheechako in the bush in the winter time, or heck, even in high summer. They call it "getting bushy". Cold, isolation and 20 hours aday of darkness can make you focus way too much on the passing of time. If you are unable to see the clues that seperate day from night it isn't hard to get turned around. Next thing you know you have missed the plane to Hawaii and shot up the wood stove.
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03-03-2008 08:00 PM
FrankieD wrote:I wouldn't exactly say that I feel that 1st person narrators are "unreliable"...but I always feel that I'm getting a singular point of view. It would to know what Vivi was thinking on the drive to the house???FrankieD
For the most part, in fact, we are more likely to give weight to something someone tells that he or she experienced personally than information we get second or third hand. Writers use this first person point of view then to pull us into the story and make the tale more believable. As someone said, however, a reader must be very alert at the beginning of a first person story. We see things through that character's eye. If the character is truthful, we get the truth. If the narrator is an exaggerator, we get a skewed view. Skillful writers give us the clues we need to judge how much we trust a character. I agree that many of you are reading very carefully the clues that the author is giving us at the beginning that maybe we need to be cautious about how much we take Ginny's story as a very objective and accurate account of the story we are about to share. All the details we are given and the kinds of details are going to be very important as we continue to read, I'm sure. As has been stated, Viv seems to be the flighty one because that is Ginny's view. Yet we learn about Ginny from the state of the house she lives in, all the deterioration of the house, a possible metaphor for the "house" of her soul.
I am really liking this book.
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03-03-2008 08:01 PM
AnnieS wrote:
Ginny states: "I pull my wool cardy - an old one of my father's- more tightly around me" Did she really keep one after all these years? Is this significant? She states her "father" not Clive in this sentence.
Nice find! I think you're right, there must be some meaning in her use of "father" here. Good work.
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03-03-2008 08:14 PM
Charlottesweb1 wrote:A person in denial can view an extremely chaotic situation as peaceful if they have a coping mechanism. Historically, look at Nero who was playing the fiddle while Rome burnedI think we learn in the first chapter for Ginny her coping mechanism was her father and the study of moths.
Well yeah, but Nero wasnt really in a state of denial, he ordered them to let the fires burn out of his own demented idea of cleansing and power, but then thats another story lol.
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03-03-2008 08:51 PM
MelissaW wrote:
I also wondered why Ginny and Vivian called their parents by first name and not Mom and Dad.