03-05-2008 07:21 PM
03-05-2008 07:34 PM
The book never said what actually happened just that Vivi was suddenly falling. Did she fall or was she pushed? Jo
Or did she jump?
03-05-2008 08:27 PM
Concerning the Dr. and Ginny - what is that all about?
Good question. What do you think?
I think, therefore I drive people nuts.
03-05-2008 09:11 PM
Curiosity killed the cat but satisfaction brought it back
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Message Edited by CAG on 03-05-2008 06:37 PM
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03-06-2008 01:39 PM
Choisya wrote:Just a small historical point: People did not necessarily have to be generous to take in evacuees - they were allocated children by the government if they and their homes were considered suitable. Here is some information about evacuation procedures:-The study of moths has a lot to do with the moon and night time because, like werewolfs, moths are attracted to moonlight as well as to light in general. They hide during the day so are studied at night (or in laboratories of course.) In the UK we have a National Moth Night in June when people go out in groups to identify them.
I had my suspicion that Maud and Clive were mom and dad and now I am wondering why Ginny was calling them by their first names I guess something else to be sought out later.
Lepidoptery sounds like you turn in to a werewolf at the full moon (ha).
I like that the family is generous in that they took in the evacuees during the war.
I thought it very strange that Maud and the doctor spent so much time w/Ginny about Vivi's accident, I wonder if they had cause to think she had something to do with it, and Maud alludes to the fact that there might be something "off" in Ginny on page 16 when Ginny overhears her parents talking and Maude says "There must be something ___".
We know for sure that Vivi didn't have any children of her own, but we don't find out if Ginny did for sure
The author takes a lot of time describing the house I wonder if this house has talking walls.
Message Edited by Choisya on 03-05-2008 02:38 PM
Great point about the evacuations - I thought that taking in the children was a little less than voluntary. Doug
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03-06-2008 04:27 PM
Ginny seems a very strange child. She calls her mother Maud, insists that she's very fond of Vivi, but somehow it doesn't fit. I wonder if she would have pulled the bell rope if Vivi hadn't. Somehow it seems that both the parents and the doctor have some questions about what happened on the tower. At the least, Ginny is a very strange child.
I'm looking forward to reading about the rest of the family's problems. Neat story.
03-06-2008 07:20 PM
krenea1 wrote:Ginny's lack of emotion and Maud's fear of what happened on the Bell Tower gives me the impression that something is not right with Ginny. Maybe there were complications during labor and they could do nothing about it when the snow came. I'm thinking some kind of brain damage that effects her emotions.I'm also perplexed by Ginny's reference that she saw Vivi's entire future giving up the struggle to survive. Is this a possible spiritual vision that she is capable of seeing or just her ability to give a deeper description of what she analyzes?
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03-07-2008 01:30 PM
I really struggled to get through this chapter. I just didn’t find it very interesting. I think it was all the description of Bulburrow Court that got to me. I’m just not a huge fan of that type of detail. On the character and plot side of things, I did wonder why there seemed to be some suspicion about Ginny’s account of Vivi’s fall from the bell tower. I also wonder what Maud meant when she said that she thought they could live as a normal family (p. 16). I felt that there was something weird about the doctor too, the way Ginny says he always wanted to talk to her. Made me wonder what was behind that.
"…whilst she was on that stretcher I actually saw her Entire Future giving up the struggle to survive and leave her and at the same time I felt my own future reduced to a dead and eventless vacuum, a mere biological process" (p. 15). Why is “Entire Future” capitalized?
LyndenMomof2 wrote: “As I read the descriptions in the book it is apparant to me the writers background as a documetarist. I feel as if I am getting too much descriptions of things that may or may not be neccessary. Just a random thought.”
I was thinking the same thing as I was reading the description of the estate.
ladydi22 wrote: “I am more creeped out by the doctor than the bugs at this point. Hope he goes away! “
What else, oh, yes, I assumed the doctor was a general practice doctor, not a psychiatrist/psychologist. I still believe that but I guess maybe we’ll find out more later.
dhaupt wrote: “I totally agree with you Karen, I have 3 siblings and it amazes me how differently we remember things.”
My sister and I talk about this all the time, how we each remember things differently. In fact, sometimes we can’t agree on anything happening the same way as we each think it did. It drives my husband crazy that we have different versions of our childhood.
OK. Off to read Chapter 3. I’m so far behind. I hope I can catch up before the next round of chapter threads goes up.
03-07-2008 09:12 PM
Are we to gather from the end of this chapter that neither sister had children? If that is the case, then how or why does Ginny believe that children are "what life was all about and nothing else mattered" (p. 21)?
I was wondering that myself. I couldn't tell whether Ginny's belief was based on personal experience &, if so, whether she had just had the desire to have children but never actually had any.