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03-18-2008 11:29 AM
bookhunter wrote:Ms. Adams wrote:
The thing I found most interesting is that I did not get the same, immediate, response from an equally intelligent UK audience. I may be wrong, but this is what I have decided: the English love their eccentrics, they ‘willed’ her to just be eccentric and didn’t want to find anything officially wrong with her. Perhaps they are also more used to the idea of an eccentric living in a big country house because there are still so many of them here! Do you think it’s because the English find eccentrics more endearing and American’s like their labels? I also found it interesting that once the UK audience did realise she was a little more 'off' than eccentric (inherent or created), they suddenly found her habits less ‘endearing’. Although she was no different, their perception of her had drastically changed. ...
Ms. Adams,
I loved your response here, and your discussion about the differences between the UK audience and us. It sounds to me like you think "eccentric" is not a label!
You are right that we Americans want to "fix" things, and that seems easier when we have identified what needs fixing. But I think these labels have become over used in our everyday life "Oh, I am sooo OCD--I have to make SURE I turned of the oven before I leave the house") and also expanded in their actual medical definitions that we use them as a synonym for eccentric.
I love the aspect of your book that questions how much of Who We Are is determined by our biology and how much by our environment. Your question in a previous post about free wil being an illusion made for interesting dinner discussion at our house! The family dog wishes to argue against humans and apes being the only self aware creatures on the planet. (I won't even TELL you what the cat says!)
Is that a theme that you plan to explore further in future novels? If so, I would challenge or request you to examine the spiritual aspect of the question as well. There are hints of a spiritual life in The Sister: We see Vivi going to church, and we read that Ginny (and Clive) does not believe in God. I think self awareness may be fine and dandy, but awareness of something beyond this world is what really sets humans apart.
I am enjoying your thoughtful responses to our questions as much as I did the novel!
Ann, bookhunter
PS I like The Time of Emergence
Ann, I hope you don't mind me piggy backing your question here but I have to agree with you. I thought about that myself, when Ms Adams, you said, when we put our hand in a fire and jerk it back, we used to think it was free will until science proved it was reflex. Well let me quote you there, cause man, you got me scared now about possibly taking you out of context when I am not trying to. "Jerking your hand away from a scolding pot is not a conscious action. It’s a reflex. But until we knew that – scientifically - we had thought it was our own choice, our own free will."
I didn't get this proposition. When did anyone really think that reflex was free will? I don't think we ever needed science to tell us, thats just a survival instinct! Free will is much more than that. And as Ann, as you say here, I would say, you have to look to the spiritual side of things, to really understand free will. Animals may or may not make choices, do i want this food or that, should I eat that person or just let them walk by. Is that person a threat or not. Maybe these are choices, but thats very different than the free will of a human to choice between right and wrong, those are moral issues and that what makes us different than the animals, they dont operate on morals or need to. So that puts a different spin on the free will issue.
I also think there is a difference in the UK readers and the American ones, in that we felt something was off about Ginny in the beginning and they didn't. That's why I didn't trust what Ginny was saying, even from the first, it wasn't just from her behavior but also from how she told her story, how she said things happened. Something didnt sound right, so she was an unreliable narrator to me, but then thats what makes her interesting to me. It made me keep reading to see what was real and what wasn't. I wasn't sure about the bell tower incident from how she was telling it early on, I thought then, what do the her parents know that she isnt saying and how she says it, was she involved. Then yes later, when Maud "fell down the stairs" and she killed vivi and Clive was all to happy to get the heck out of there, then I thought my initial curiosity about was she involved in the bell tower, was strengthened. I think you asked us Ms Adams, what made us think that. Thats why for me.
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03-18-2008 12:19 PM
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03-18-2008 01:06 PM
I thoroughly enjoyed this book. I loved the comparison of the life of moths with the life of humans, in particular this group of rather peculiar humans. I found the Maculinea larva scene in the churchyard profoundly indicative of what went on within Ginny (after I had finished the book)- so much so that I went back and reread the pages. The reference to her emergence as she found herself at peace in the hospital/prison after wreaking such havoc on her sister, and the life of the larva as moving on with no knowledge or burden of guilt was brilliant. What a way to tie it all together!
I look forward to reading more of your books.
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03-18-2008 01:35 PM
mwinasu wrote:I loved this book and heaven help me ,I truly identified with Ginny. I am wondering if you were just telling a story or if you intended for there to be a deeper meaning or symbolism to the story. It looks like it to me, but I have read to much to assume anything. Oh, and what happened to the dog? I know he isn't real but what was he supposed the represent.
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03-18-2008 01:45 PM
BookSavage wrote:Ms. Adams,Thank you for allowing us this first look opportunity and for coming on here and being an active part of the discussion. I must admit that for the first 50 or so pages I found your book to be very unenjoyable, but I found that the last fifty pages are the complete opposite and the pages in between make a nice bridge between the two sections. I have several questions, some of which relate to other questions already posted.
- I fimly believe from the signs you give in the book that Ginny has Asperger's syndrom. Based of of that I have several questions.
- Did you intend for Ginny to have Asperger's Syndrom?
- If not, would you consider making that your official position?
- Would you consider adding in specific information about support groups that can help parents of children with autism. This is such a problem for our children today, and so many parents are unaware of the resources out there. I think this book could shed light on what is available.
- I really enjoyed the way you created Ginny's character, and I felt that she was really believeable throughout most of the book. But I do wonder why you seemed to make her so much more socially capable during the time that Vivien was bringing author home to visit. I felt at this point in the novel that there was a real disconnect, and I wondering if it was intentional?
Thanks again for this opportunity to participate and read your book.
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03-18-2008 01:50 PM
bookhunter wrote:Ms. Adams,Thanks so much for the opportunity to read your book--it was a real treat. I enjoyed getting inside Ginny's head and viewing the world through her eyes. You have created a very unique character!I was wondering about your transition from documentary producer to novelist.What were the subjects of your documentaries? Was it difficult to go from such a visual medium to a novel? From non-fiction to fiction?I look forward to getting to "know" you during your visit to this group.Ann, bookhunter
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03-18-2008 01:55 PM
Thayer wrote:Ms. Adams,I was wondering while reading your intriguing novel: what was your motivation for the character of Ginny? I am very curious as to where her personality and possible disorder/dysfunction generated in your mind.I really enjoyed the book, and am really glad to be a part of this ARC club as this is a genre that I perhaps wouldn't normally sample. I generally read historical fiction, biographys and the like. It has opened new doors! Yours is a book that I will recommend to my many "bookie" friends. Thank you for your time and for fielding our questions. Dawn
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03-18-2008 01:59 PM
runnybabbit620 wrote:This was quite a spellbinding first book for you! I feel privileged to be among the first to read it.Do you plan to write another book, if so, is there a specific storyline or subject you are looking to focus on?Are you thinking of selling the rights to make a movie of The Sister? It would make for a great, keep-you-guessing, plotline. It would certainly have viewers asking all these questions and then some!Best of luck to you in your future endeavors!
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03-18-2008 02:03 PM
kiakar wrote:Miss Adams, were you already familiar with the material you used on the moths and butterflies you embraced your story with. Or was it just research? What made you decide to use this much information on the moth and butterfly history? I loved the book, by the way, hope you will write another one. Linda
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03-18-2008 02:04 PM
kbbg42 wrote:Dear Ms. Adams;Thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to read "The Sister". How long did it take you to write the story?
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03-18-2008 02:21 PM
vivico1 wrote:
Ms. Adams,
First may I say that I loved the book. I think it is the best first look book we have done in here to date. You kept me intrigued and guessing all the way though. It was eerie, creepy at times and the ending was great! I think the moth aspect of the story was important, to see the parallels between them and Ginny's behavior most of all, but the others too. However, as has been hinting at, sometimes the technical information about moths got a bit in the way of the story,it sometimes went on so long, to those who are loving the story but are a bit put off by too much technical stuff in a novel. Did you ever have any apprehension on how much of the scientific information to use in getting the meaning across of how it plays out in the telling of the story? I did find myself skimming parts to get to the rest of the story, not everything about the moths mind you, the comparisons were important. Great chilling book and ending tho.
Also, why do the women seem so old for their late 60s? I know Ginny has been house bound for a good twenty years, but I have too actually do too illness and live alone and am 51 so have had an extremely limited social life, but I felt I was reading about women approaching 80. I know you will get asked about this more than once probably, maybe both these questions, since they were two of our biggest questions among each other, so pardon me if I am repeating the same things already asked.
I did like your book very much and will be looking forward to future books from you. Good luck with your work and thank you for spending time with us to talk about this one.
OH, had to tell you too, was a bit disconcerting, reading all the club's posts about someone with my name, and also very weird to read about her, especially getting killed! hehe. Is Vivien a British spelling of the name? I have only seen it spelled that way once here, you dont run into many Vivians and the one Vivien was a man. Thanks.
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03-18-2008 02:31 PM
BookWoman718 wrote:First let me join the other readers in thanking you for making an ARC of your book available to us. It has been quite an experience on many levels, as you can see from the discussions. I, too, think I would have liked more closure on some of the situations that were left deliberately ambiguous (who pushed whom, etc) but the question I would most like resolved goes to the credibility of a key piece of the plot. Why would someone as self-centered as Vivi ask her obviously 'odd' (if not mentally incompetent), socially inept, and physically unattractive (protruding lower lip, etc.) sister to be a surrogate? Surely Vivi would not be dreaming of a little girl with Ginny's characteristics. Nor would she have wanted the intricate lifelong entanglements that such a surrogacy would entail - the possibility of birth defects, the possible conflicting emotions of the two sisters as the child grew, the need for secrecy and the fear of revelation, etc. It just seemed unbelievable to me. Or is it that Vivi's request of her sister was meant to show that Ginny was NOT as odd as so many of her own words and her actions led us to believe? That her oddity, as so many other things, lived mainly in her imagination, at least at that point in her life?Thank you SO much for taking part in this discussion!
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03-18-2008 02:36 PM
mwinasu wrote:Thank you for writing a story about alcoholism that does not make you feel all warm and fuzzy.I forgot to ask if you are the adult child of an alcoholic. I know this is personal, but you must have some first hand knowledge to be able to define the dynamics so well.
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03-18-2008 03:04 PM
Ms. Adams,
I do think the differences maybe in how Americans saw this book, as a Sister Suspense story, rather than the UK seeing it as a quirky little moth book, probably is what makes the difference in why for many of us, the moth information, and I am not saying all of it, just the technical things, seemed too much for us,or a bit in the way. As I said before, I could see the comparisons and they really were a big part of the story, so I really do believe that your probably right about that. I think in marketing to the two groups, probably here, a little less would have been a little more, know what I mean? Also on the question about putting Moth in the title here, I see several people have told you they probably would not have picked it up then. I doubt I would have either, or I might have at least read the jacket first and then read the story, but possibly when it started to get into the science of the moth very very much,and with Moth in the title,I may not have stuck with the book, and that would have been a shame because I knew something eerie was going on here and it was a great ending! Many things that people are wanting answered, I understand them wanting all ends tied up neatly but I don't particularly need that. Some are interesting little tidbits to know from the author of course but not really necessary to know for me about for the story to work.
I did read your post about the ages, thank you.
I do have a question tho, or comment, about something you have mentioned in a couple of your posts now. You have said, that Ginny's condition was mild, or almost non existent in her early years,that it was 50 years later and looking back that we see some things but I don't think thats really true. If it were something mild, or non existent, then why was Dr. Morse called in when she was little. Why the cards game, which I know of a card game used to test sociopaths and psychopaths, to see if they can determine the correct emotion for the faces, which was done with her at an early age. I thought that was very telling and for that decade too! My field is psychology, so when I read the same test being given her in a simpler way, I thought oh my gosh, they are already doing psychological tests on her to check her affect and see if there is something wrong with her along the lines of a sociopath, as to why she doesn't seem to react to things, like her sisters fall. And why does Maud say when she was a little girl, that she wanted a normal family, they can't with her? Also something very interesting to me, was the incident at school, that was a bit later in her childhood, when they are taken home, because they were both booted out basically, Maud told her "they are just prejudice". That line struck me big time because it was not followed up, but prejudice about what? Why that word? I can't see at that time that it was a money thing, or a race thing, so yes, early on in the book, or early on in Ginny's life there seemed to be something everyone was aware of BUT Ginny. So for me, it was not something mild or almost non existent in her early life but something very telling about why she is the way she is now. Thanks, Vivian
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03-18-2008 04:23 PM
Ms. Adams,
I do think the differences maybe in how Americans saw this book, as a Sister Suspense story, rather than the UK seeing it as a quirky little moth book, probably is what makes the difference in why for many of us, the moth information, and I am not saying all of it, just the technical things, seemed too much for us,or a bit in the way. As I said before, I could see the comparisons and they really were a big part of the story, so I really do believe that your probably right about that. I think in marketing to the two groups, probably here, a little less would have been a little more, know what I mean? Also on the question about putting Moth in the title here, I see several people have told you they probably would not have picked it up then. I doubt I would have either, or I might have at least read the jacket first and then read the story, but possibly when it started to get into the science of the moth very very much,and with Moth in the title,I may not have stuck with the book, and that would have been a shame because I knew something eerie was going on here and it was a great ending! Many things that people are wanting answered, I understand them wanting all ends tied up neatly but I don't particularly need that. Some are interesting little tidbits to know from the author of course but not really necessary to know for me about for the story to work.
I did read your post about the ages, thank you.
I do have a question tho, or comment, about something you have mentioned in a couple of your posts now. You have said, that Ginny's condition was mild, or almost non existent in her early years,that it was 50 years later and looking back that we see some things but I don't think thats really true. If it were something mild, or non existent, then why was Dr. Morse called in when she was little. Why the cards game, which I know of a card game used to test sociopaths and psychopaths, to see if they can determine the correct emotion for the faces, which was done with her at an early age. I thought that was very telling and for that decade too! My field is psychology, so when I read the same test being given her in a simpler way, I thought oh my gosh, they are already doing psychological tests on her to check her affect and see if there is something wrong with her along the lines of a sociopath, as to why she doesn't seem to react to things, like her sisters fall. And why does Maud say when she was a little girl, that she wanted a normal family, they can't with her? Also something very interesting to me, was the incident at school, that was a bit later in her childhood, when they are taken home, because they were both booted out basically, Maud told her "they are just prejudice". That line struck me big time because it was not followed up, but prejudice about what? Why that word? I can't see at that time that it was a money thing, or a race thing, so yes, early on in the book, or early on in Ginny's life there seemed to be something everyone was aware of BUT Ginny. So for me, it was not something mild or almost non existent in her early life but something very telling about why she is the way she is now. Thanks, Vivian
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03-18-2008 04:41 PM
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Ms. Adams,
I do think the differences maybe in how Americans saw this book, as a Sister Suspense story, rather than the UK seeing it as a quirky little moth book, probably is what makes the difference in why for many of us, the moth information, and I am not saying all of it, just the technical things, seemed too much for us,or a bit in the way. As I said before, I could see the comparisons and they really were a big part of the story, so I really do believe that your probably right about that. I think in marketing to the two groups, probably here, a little less would have been a little more, know what I mean? Also on the question about putting Moth in the title here, I see several people have told you they probably would not have picked it up then. I doubt I would have either, or I might have at least read the jacket first and then read the story, but possibly when it started to get into the science of the moth very very much,and with Moth in the title,I may not have stuck with the book, and that would have been a shame because I knew something eerie was going on here and it was a great ending! Many things that people are wanting answered, I understand them wanting all ends tied up neatly but I don't particularly need that. Some are interesting little tidbits to know from the author of course but not really necessary to know for me about for the story to work.
I did read your post about the ages, thank you.
I do have a question tho, or comment, about something you have mentioned in a couple of your posts now. You have said, that Ginny's condition was mild, or almost non existent in her early years,that it was 50 years later and looking back that we see some things but I don't think thats really true. If it were something mild, or non existent, then why was Dr. Morse called in when she was little. Why the cards game, which I know of a card game used to test sociopaths and psychopaths, to see if they can determine the correct emotion for the faces, which was done with her at an early age. I thought that was very telling and for that decade too! My field is psychology, so when I read the same test being given her in a simpler way, I thought oh my gosh, they are already doing psychological tests on her to check her affect and see if there is something wrong with her along the lines of a sociopath, as to why she doesn't seem to react to things, like her sisters fall. And why does Maud say when she was a little girl, that she wanted a normal family, they can't with her? Also something very interesting to me, was the incident at school, that was a bit later in her childhood, when they are taken home, because they were both booted out basically, Maud told her "they are just prejudice". That line struck me big time because it was not followed up, but prejudice about what? Why that word? I can't see at that time that it was a money thing, or a race thing, so yes, early on in the book, or early on in Ginny's life there seemed to be something everyone was aware of BUT Ginny. So for me, it was not something mild or almost non existent in her early life but something very telling about why she is the way she is now. Thanks, VivianDear Vivianyou are right about all of this - the doctor and the school. (By the way I see the doctor as a 'family' doctor, a GP - in 1950s rural England he was often a family friend too as he would be the family's doctor for his entire career - but I see him as someone who's decided to 'take on Ginny and her behaviour' and dabble in some psychiatry with these cards. He never refers her to a proper specialist. it seems that Maud believes everything he says...The point with Ginny is that at the start she definitely has 'oddities' when compared to the 'norm' of society (or so the doctor and her mother assume). But, the bit that is ambiguious is this:did she just have very introvert non-communicative traits as a child that her mother (and the doctor) did not understand and therefore assumed must be psychological 'faults'. Then, because of the way she was treated (imagine a basically 'normal' but introvert and ununusual child being treated the way she was treated - sheltered, feared, blamed, fed with moth information and killing, led to believe that animals are unconscious and perhaps humans have no choice in their actions etc etc). perhaps they created who she became (reclusive, OCD and other psychiatric symptoms, and then someone with potential to murder)ORwas she born with this 'condition' from the outset.Poppy
OK, I see what you are saying. It's basically a cause and effect question. Was she a quirky kid, maybe shy too, with a overly protective, possessive mother who by the way she treated Ginny and had others treat her, caused her to become, "emerge" into this woman we meet on this weekend? Or was Ginny in fact suffering from something as a child. Its a good question and one that all of us need to think about when we are raising kids. I have just read another book, I won't mention the name here, this is about your book, about a teenager who kills a lot of kids in his school, as we unfortunately see too often these days. But the same kinds of questions apply, Why would a seemingly good, shy kid do such a thing and what roll do the parents and others in his life play in this. Cause and effect. I see what you are saying about that part now. Thank you for clarifying your point. Vivian
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