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09-03-2008 08:08 PM - edited 09-03-2008 08:09 PM
Here's a potentially great topic. Hidden SF and fantasy gems – books that you've read and have absolutely loved but that haven't gotten the recognition that they deserve. I could go on about this for hours – every year, I see so many mediocre and sub-par SF/Fantasy releases make national bestseller lists and sell tens of thousands of copies and then I'll read a novel that just blows me away and, for whatever reasons, it doesn't sell at all. I could really care less about "what's hot" or "what's selling" – I want to know "what's good!"
Have any of you read a book that just rocked your world but then just seemed to disappear from bookshelves shortly after being released? Here's a few from my list:
1. Enemy Glory by Karen Michalson
2. Stepan Chapman's Troika
3. Adam Connell's Counterfeit Kings
4. Bill DeSmedt's Singularity
5. Oron by D.C. Smith
Paul
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09-03-2008 10:00 PM
I know his first book did not come out this year but I think Joel Shepherd and his three books Crossover, Breakaway, and Killswitch were really good I know that we are getting more of the Austrailian born authors being published in this country. Another author that I have found this summer is Sarah A. Hoyt, I really enjoyed her books.
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09-03-2008 10:25 PM
Nelsmom wrote:I know his first book did not come out this year but I think Joel Shepherd and his three books Crossover, Breakaway, and Killswitch were really good I know that we are getting more of the Austrailian born authors being published in this country. Another author that I have found this summer is Sarah A. Hoyt, I really enjoyed her books.
Toni
Good call, Toni – his Cassandra Kresnov series is great and has been largely overlooked here in the US. And those novels are a great example of the hybridization of genre fiction, by the way. What do you call those novels? SF mysteries? Mysterious SF? Any way, I heard Shepherd's fantasy saga A Trial of Blood and Steel (I think that's what it's called) is really good but I haven't read it yet.
As for Sarah Hoyt, I've never read any of her books. Which book or books from her would you suggest?
Paul
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09-03-2008 10:34 PM
Paul,
The one I tried to tell in Paranormal is Draw One In The Dark that has Shapeshifters, the other series her Musketeer Mysteries that starts with Death Of A Musketeeer. But what started me reading her is her book of short stories called Crawling Between Heaven and Earth.
Toni
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09-04-2008 09:15 AM - edited 09-04-2008 09:32 AM
I think she's fairly well known in Britain, but Diana Wynne Jones writes a lot of great young adult fantasy and scifi and I feel is very overlooked in the US. I think she's started to get a bit of attention now that there's an animated film based on Howl's Moving Castle but still I don't think she's gotten the recognition she deserves compared to more popular authors - I think she's truly one of the most imaginitive and inventive writers in the genre.
Also, when I was a kid I was very taken with a book called Winter of Magic's Return, by Pamela F. Service. It's sort of a post-apocalyptic fantasy, about a return to the realm of Arthur and Merlin following a nuclear winter. I've never met anyone else who's read it or even heard of it, but I found it a very compelling book and read it many, many times.
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09-09-2008 06:09 PM
Folks,
Robert Frezza has three books I dont' think too many know- "A Small Colonial War" , "Fire in a Faraway Place", "Cain's Land" excellent military sci/fi, better than David Drake, I think.
Brad
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09-09-2008 10:53 PM
Bradinator wrote:Folks,
Robert Frezza has three books I dont' think too many know- "A Small Colonial War" , "Fire in a Faraway Place", "Cain's Land" excellent military sci/fi, better than David Drake, I think.
Brad
Brad:
Wow, I haven't even heard of Robert Frezza. Is he still writing, do you know?
Paul
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09-09-2008 10:58 PM - edited 09-09-2008 11:00 PM
What about "The Talisman" by Stephen King and Peter Straub? I see it is in the top 10k in sales rank. Does that make it "obscure" enough?
I'd also highly recommend "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson. Don't know why but that's the one book I could read again and again.
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09-09-2008 11:03 PM
Illinifan wrote:What about "The Talisman" by Stephen King and Peter Straub? I see it is in the top 10k in sales rank. Does that make it "obscure" enough?
I loved The Talisman, Illinifan – hey if we're talking about horror, here's a CRAZY OBSCURE title that just blew me away. The guy's name is Frank Chigas and his story collection was called The Damp Chamber.Here's the review I wrote for sfreader.com several years ago:
The Damp Chamber and Other Bad Places
Frank Chigas
Medusa Press; $40.00
Reviewed by Paul Goat Allen
Okay, let’s just cut to the chase: The Damp Chamber and Other Bad Places by Frank Chigas is one of the best collections of horror stories I’ve ever read – if not the very best. With the stylish storytelling prowess of Stephen King, the audacious gruesomeness of H.P. Lovecraft, the psychological intensity of Ramsey Campbell and the cerebral machinations of Algernon Blackwood, this masterful collection absolutely blew me away! As I was devouring story after story into the wee hours of the night, I kept asking myself, “Who the hell is Frank Chigas and why haven’t I ever heard of him?”
The answer is simple: this is his first published book – a coming out (of the grave) party if you will.
The title story, “The Damp Chamber,” is a lesson in terror about a young urbanite tasked to repair and sell his recently deceased uncle’s property in rural Wisconsin, upon which sits a much storied house. As he pries information out of the property’s tip-lipped neighbors, the mysterious history of the house is slowly uncovered. Inbreeding squatters, deformed half-humans, death cults, pagan rituals and ghostly apparitions are just the beginning… “The Space Between the Walls” is another eloquent tale of psychological deconstruction about a young couple who move into a dream apartment only to find a fatal flaw – and it’s not roaches. The bayou is the setting for “The House of August,” a cautionary tale about a sadistic landowner and the consequences of tempting fate. “And Darkness Slumbers” is a Blackwoodian tale about how killing a monstrosity in a graveyard can help strengthen the bond between a young man and his future father-in-law.
Arguably the most intricately crafted and emotionally powerful story in this collection, “The Copper Bell,” chronicles the strange life of a reclusive poet who gives up fame and fortune in search of inner fulfillment. His quest leads him to Japan where he stumbles across an abandoned village void of life. Upon further investigation, the poet finds his muse…
The Damp Chamber and Other Bad Places is an artistic masterwork that should – and will – be cherished by horror aficionados for generations to come: from the 19 nightmare-inducing stories included to the fantastic macabre artwork throughout from the author himself, this $40 collection is worth ten times the price. It’s evident that the people at Medusa Press put a lot of tender loving care into this production – from the cover design to the inner illustrations to the story layout to the font selection, The Damp Chamber and Other Bad Places will be a prized collector’s item once the rest of the world finds out about Frank Chigas.
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09-10-2008 08:19 AM
Kristine Smith has a series that caught me right away with a very strong lead female character, excellent world building, political intrigue. First book in the series was Code of Conduct I believe. Excellent books.
Also Joe Abecrombie is amazing! He's got three books in a series..The Blade Itself, Before They are Hanged, and Last Argument of Kings <just got it yeah!!>...The characters are not cut and dried good and bad...sometimes it's hard to tell who to root for...but the stories are terrific, with fast pacing and humor and horror.
Lynn
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09-10-2008 06:45 PM
I didn't include this one at first because it's an unarguable classic but A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr. just blew me away when I first read it decades ago – and back in 2006 when HarperCollins reissued it, I had the honor of writing a review for B&N and it was even better the second time around. I know this really isn't a "hidden gem" but I think it's a hugely under-rated and under-appreciated novel that really should be read by everyone at some point in their existence. Can I get a witness?
Paul
The Barnes & Noble Review
In the introduction to this visually stunning reissue of Walter M. Miller, Jr.'s 1959 postapocalyptic classic, Mary Doria Russell classifies the Hugo Award�winning A Canticle for Leibowitz as Literature with a capital L: a novel that will change all those who read it. She couldn't be more correct -- this bitingly cynical and disturbingly prophetic look at the future of humankind will chill readers to the bone.
Centuries after a nuclear war devastated the Earth, Brother Francis Gerard of Leibowitz Abbey is on a Lenten fast in the Utah desert when he uncovers an ancient fallout survival shelter containing puzzling clues into pre-Flame Deluge culture. Some of the findings may even have belonged to martyred "booklegger" Isaac Edward Leibowitz himself, a priest who dedicated his life to saving knowledge for future generations. But will Brother Gerard's discovery help humankind avoid another self-inflicted catastrophe?
Almost a half century after it was first published, A Canticle for Leibowitz hasn't lost any of its megaton punch: If anything, Miller's words relating to humankind's propensity for self-destruction have taken on a kind of eerie aura of prophecy: "Is the species congenitally insane, Brother?� Are we doomed to do it again and again and again? Have we no choice but to play the Phoenix in an unending sequence of rise and fall?� Are we doomed to it, Lord, chained to the pendulum of our own mad clockwork, helpless to halt its swing?" A fascinating and paradoxical novel by an equally paradoxical man, A Canticle for Leibowitz is undeniably one of the best science fiction novels of all time. Russell sums it up perfectly: "You'll be different when you finish it." Paul Goat Allen
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09-10-2008 06:49 PM
Illinifan wrote:
Thanks Paul. Added to my Wish List, but I'll have to find a used copy. Looks like bn.com is out. I do love Lovecraft as well. One of my favorites from him wasn't as popular as the Cthulu stuff...it was "The Lurking Fear and Other Stories". Sounds very similar to the Chigas stuff.
Yeah, if you're into Lovecraft, you'll think Chigas is the next coming. For real. Writing really good, really terrifying horror is a rare talent and this guy is one of the very best. It's strange that he hasn't really hit the "big time" like King, Straub, etc. because he is that good. I honestly don't even know if he's still alive or even still writing but I hope he is...
Paul
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09-10-2008 09:15 PM
Nick Donahue writes a very interesting story in The Magic and the Healing, Under the Healing Sign and The Healing of Crossroads. He creates a new world that is compelling and pulls you in.
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09-10-2008 09:23 PM
paulgoatallen wrote:I didn't include this one at first because it's an unarguable classic but A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr. just blew me away when I first read it decades ago – and back in 2006 when HarperCollins reissued it, I had the honor of writing a review for B&N and it was even better the second time around. I know this really isn't a "hidden gem" but I think it's a hugely under-rated and under-appreciated novel that really should be read by everyone at some point in their existence. Can I get a witness?
Paul
The Barnes & Noble Review
In the introduction to this visually stunning reissue of Walter M. Miller, Jr.'s 1959 postapocalyptic classic, Mary Doria Russell classifies the Hugo Award�winning A Canticle for Leibowitz as Literature with a capital L: a novel that will change all those who read it. She couldn't be more correct -- this bitingly cynical and disturbingly prophetic look at the future of humankind will chill readers to the bone.
Centuries after a nuclear war devastated the Earth, Brother Francis Gerard of Leibowitz Abbey is on a Lenten fast in the Utah desert when he uncovers an ancient fallout survival shelter containing puzzling clues into pre-Flame Deluge culture. Some of the findings may even have belonged to martyred "booklegger" Isaac Edward Leibowitz himself, a priest who dedicated his life to saving knowledge for future generations. But will Brother Gerard's discovery help humankind avoid another self-inflicted catastrophe?
Almost a half century after it was first published, A Canticle for Leibowitz hasn't lost any of its megaton punch: If anything, Miller's words relating to humankind's propensity for self-destruction have taken on a kind of eerie aura of prophecy: "Is the species congenitally insane, Brother?� Are we doomed to do it again and again and again? Have we no choice but to play the Phoenix in an unending sequence of rise and fall?� Are we doomed to it, Lord, chained to the pendulum of our own mad clockwork, helpless to halt its swing?" A fascinating and paradoxical novel by an equally paradoxical man, A Canticle for Leibowitz is undeniably one of the best science fiction novels of all time. Russell sums it up perfectly: "You'll be different when you finish it." Paul Goat Allen
Amen, brother.
I included this book in my list on Toni's "Classic" thread.
Carol
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09-11-2008 11:42 AM
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Bradinator wrote:Folks,
Robert Frezza has three books I dont' think too many know- "A Small Colonial War" , "Fire in a Faraway Place", "Cain's Land" excellent military sci/fi, better than David Drake, I think.
Brad
Brad:
Wow, I haven't even heard of Robert Frezza. Is he still writing, do you know?
Paul
Paul,
You know I had to do some reasearch, and the answer looks like no he doesn't. He had another sci fi series that started with "McLendon's Syndrome" and put out a book for that one in '96 called "VMF Factor" and that's the last I see from him. These were more humorous sci-fi and a good read. Shame he's MIA, cuase all these were good. If you like military sci-fi though, the ones I mnetioned previously can probably be found in the used book stores. They are excellent, I'm re-reading them now since they came to mind.
Brad
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02-07-2012 02:21 PM
The Damiano series by R.A. MacAvoy
Patricia A. McKillip's Riddle-Master trilogy
The original Thieves' World Series and all the various stand-alones for various characters
Not exactly hidden, but definitely not given the eminense that it once had, Donaldson's Covenant series.
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06-06-2012 11:25 AM
Kinda dredging up an old topic but I have a series I would like to add.
Harry Harrisons West of Eden series. I never really got into the Stainless Steel Rat books or anything else of his, but I did enjoy these books.
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07-17-2012 04:09 AM
A great author that really needs to be 'discovered' is Vince Churchill! His book " The Blackest Heart" is a Scifi/horror blend with a touch of western. He recently wrote a sequel to it called "Pandora". He also has a zombies-in-space story, "The Dead Shall Inherit The Earth", which received praise from XBOX Magazine. I have signed copies of them all.
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07-17-2012 05:48 PM
I think all three of Daryl Gregory's books deserved more recognition they they got, of course I wouldn't have know about him if it wasn't for this board.
Another book we read a few years ago, The Suicide Collectors, would have to make that list too.
One book I really enjoyed, but haven't read the rest of the series, is High House by James Stoddard
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