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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Like I said You need to decide on a neutral ground and if they all are going to have their powers or it be an even playing field.  I think it would be the one with the biggest rock that would win.  I can't see any of them giving up their advantage.

 

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Who would win in a Mixed Martial Arts cage fight? Darth Maul or Neo?

 

What about The Thing versus Edward Scissorhands? (Trick question – rock always beats scissors.)

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?


paulgoatallen wrote:

Who would win in a Mixed Martial Arts cage fight? Darth Maul or Neo?

 

What about The Thing versus Edward Scissorhands? (Trick question – rock always beats scissors.)

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Why would Thing pick on poor pacifist Edward?

 

And Neo is king only in the matrix construct, outside he's an adverage joe. 

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?


Nelsmom wrote:

Like I said You need to decide on a neutral ground and if they all are going to have their powers or it be an even playing field.  I think it would be the one with the biggest rock that would win.  I can't see any of them giving up their advantage.

 

Toni


 

Stripped of all of their advantages, [ if Sauron had no Rings, Voldemort no wand, and Darth Vader no special suit and light-sabre ] it would be tricky deciding just who might be victorious in the confrontation.

Perhaps whoever could be the most devious or clever...

 

This all reminds me of a trend in Comic Books that was going on back in the late 1960's - early 1970's I believe - where superheroes were pitted against each other ( Spiderman vs. DareDevil, Spiderman vs. Batman, just for instance ) - usually, nobody really wound up "winning" in the end, or destroying his opponent - they might eventually realize, too, that they were both really "Good Guys" anyway, and on the same side of things, and had somehow been duped intp confronting each other...

 

The funniest bit I ever saw along these lines goes back to an old MAD Magazine pastiche from the late

1950's, where "Captain Marbles" went toe-to-toe with "Superduperman" - it was all also making fun of the

"Copyright Infringement" suit that DC Comics had brought against the Marvel Comics

( the "real" Sperman versus "Captain Marvel" ) --- that MAD take-off was hilarious! ---

 

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Sorry to bring an old thread back to life, but i found this by google, and i couldnt help but comment!

 

has anyone thought about this? Voldemort saying ''Accio Ring'' which would make the one ring be in his hand, then say ''Accio Lightsabor'' and the same would happen for the saber, then he could just apparate to mount doom and throw them both in. then apparate back and avada kadavra darth vader.

 

I suppose he could also just avada kadavra them both. I dont think darth vader stands a chance, he cant stop spells. So voldy would crucio him or something then kill him. Sauron is a wizard as well though, so its a hard choice.

 

And whoever said that thing about sauron mind controlling them both, Voldemort is a master of ligillimancy (mind reading/ mind controll) so dont speak to soon. Also he is very clever, and no way near stupid enough to accept a ring from sauron.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?


Daveyroo wrote:

Sorry to bring an old thread back to life, but i found this by google, and i couldnt help but comment!

 

has anyone thought about this? Voldemort saying ''Accio Ring'' which would make the one ring be in his hand, then say ''Accio Lightsabor'' and the same would happen for the saber, then he could just apparate to mount doom and throw them both in. then apparate back and avada kadavra darth vader.

 

I suppose he could also just avada kadavra them both. I dont think darth vader stands a chance, he cant stop spells. So voldy would crucio him or something then kill him. Sauron is a wizard as well though, so its a hard choice.

 

And whoever said that thing about sauron mind controlling them both, Voldemort is a master of ligillimancy (mind reading/ mind controll) so dont speak to soon. Also he is very clever, and no way near stupid enough to accept a ring from sauron.


Ah well nothing wrong with an old thread

 

The Voldy vs. Sauron ligillimancy thing. Think of it this way, Sauraman wasn't a slouch either in the mind control enviroment and he got controled. Sauron basically invented the power. An Ainur vs. just a man, (shaking head) no contest.

 

A basic Accido spell is just too basic anyway.

 

 

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Sauron wins easily ... unless Vader or Voldemort gets the Ring...
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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Sauron could be Darth Vader and Voldemort, even if those two joined up together (not likely since Voldemort doesn't like to play with other people). 

 

Between Lord Vader and Voldemort though, Vader would win.  Voldemort has to cast a spell while Vader wills something to happen and the Force makes it happen.  Vader also has a cool sword, something Vodemort doesn't have. 

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

you're forgetting that voldemort can teleport and cast a protective shield over himself so that no physical attack can hurt him. A simple Avada Kadavra and vader would be out. Its between Sauron and voldy here
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Daveyroo wrote:
you're forgetting that voldemort can teleport and cast a protective shield over himself so that no physical attack can hurt him. A simple Avada Kadavra and vader would be out. Its between Sauron and voldy here

 

Vader has more than just simple physical attacks at his disposal. 

 

To use the Killing Curse, Voldemort would have to wave and point a wand, and sometimes speak an incantation, telegraphing his intentions to Vader (or Sauron).  Vader has no need for such gestures (watch The Empire Strikes Back during the duel between Luke and Vader, Vader stands motionless and telekinetically throws boxes at Luke). 

 

And as far as a summoning spell goes (to take away a ring or lightsaber), those have been foiled by a tight grip. 

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Hmmm... What should I choose from? A cheesy looking guy with shriveled face and an atm for a chest plate?  A so called "villain" that has fish gills for a nose and gets destroyed by a teenager? OR a Maia or in better words a DEMI GOD (immortal) who has armies of millions of orcs, Uruk-hai, 9 faithful Naz-Gul servants that each ride a huge dragon like creature called a fellbeast and one of them (the Witch King of Angmar) with a flame sword and a flail the size of a boulder, A Maia who betrayed the gods and then created another army of 10,000 Uruk-Hai orcs and much more armies. The villain is also almost 11 feet tall with a mace over 6 feet long that can send enemies flying through the air like catapult tajectiles with a single swing of it, also a ring which enhances his power to make him even stronger. A set of armor of absolute epic proportions and a whole realm fit to describe what hell might have really looked like. Hmmm... I'm leaning more on the third option.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

However, he did cause the entire Numenorean civilization to be destroyed, after he corrupted thier minds and made them all his slaves, worshipping Morgoth in his dark temple.  He willingly was swallowed up by the ocean.  And I think he defeated Fingon in the song contest.  That might be someone else though.  He lost to Luthien.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

All the demigods power isnt tied up in the little ring, only some.  Plus he cant be killed while the ring survives.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Sauron isnt the actual floating eye, he only controls it.  He has a body of his own and is bound to its form after the destruction of Numeanor. The eye is a representation of Sauron's will, not Sauron himself.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

I totally agree.  The nazgul would drive everyone around him insane with terror and there would be no contest.  By the way the Oliphants real name is "Mumakil"

 

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

He had also nearly killed that chick (remember how he was strangling her) and his resulting explosion from his death nearly killed both the little person and the chick.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Sauron however is a Maiar and so spells dont affect him.  He is a lesser god according to Tolkien's The Silmarillion.  And would the ring respond to the spell?  If its on Saurons hand would it leave it?

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

Wrong race.  Ainur are men, Maiar are gods.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

(shaking head) Both of you go read the

 

The Silmarillion  again.

 

 

Eru the one - god

created Ainur the holy ones - thoughts given eternal life, the great spritits

whose voices sang to please Eru

their comflicting serch for individual supremacy within the harmony of the great song

the battle of sound inspired Eru to create Ea (two dots over the a) the world which men called Arda the earth

Some of the Ainur went down to the newly created world and were known as the Powers of Arda which men took to be gods

 

Elves divided the Ainur into the Valar

which included Manwe, Varda, Ulmo, Nienna, Aule, Yavanna, Orome, Vana, Mandos, Este, Tulkas, Nessa, and Melkor (known later as Morgoth the Dark Enemy)

 

And the Maiar many but those known are

Eonwe, Ilmare, Osse, Unen, Melian, Osse, Uinen, Melian, Arien, Tilion, Sauron, Gothmog (lord of the Balrogs), Radagast, Curunir (Saruman), Olorin (Gandalf), Thuringwthil (Vampire sire), Ungoliant (Spider sire), Draugluin (werewolf sire), Goldberry the river daughter, and Iarwain Ben-adar (Tom Bombadil)

 

(deep breath)

 

We had a LONG discussion of this way back in the old Tolkien board. It's probably still archived on here somewhere. Do a search if you want.

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Re: Sauron vs. Darth Vader vs. Voldemort- who would win?

 


TiggerBear wrote:

(shaking head) Both of you go read the

 

The Silmarillion  again.

 

 We had a LONG discussion of this way back in the old Tolkien board. It's probably still archived on here somewhere. Do a search if you want.


 

 

Tig:

Great call here.... I know quite a few of the Tolkien threads were moved over here. Check out pages 14, 15 and 18 for a bunch of miscellaneous Tolkien topics!

 

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