Lindsay and Juliet

[AdrienneElizab…]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now? Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid?

I really disliked Lindsay while reading the story. As I started to learn how her and Juliet were friends, I started to understand why she hated Juliet so much. I wasn't surprised they were friends as kids because Lindsay really seemed to hate Juliet. She had a fear of Juliet exposing her secret, but what she did was horrible and mean to someone who was a great and loyal friend.

[Clyo]

My feelings about Lindsay didn’t change at all, I still thought she was quite self-centred. But I feel much better about her during the story And yes, I was surprised to know that they were friends when they were little: I didn’t expected it.

[tracyjacobs007]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now? My feelings for Lindsay don't change for the better, they might have gotten a little worse that I don't like her.  She's still the self-centered mean girl that she was before. 

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid? Since we know that Lindsay hates Juliet so much it's not really a surprise that they were best friends when they were little.  It was a surprise to Sam.  What is a surprise is why did she start becoming so mean to Juliet and turn on her.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now? I'm not sure how this ties into Sam's death, besides her not dying and Juliet does instead.  Everyone seemed to be pretty upset about Juliet's death, except for Lindsay.  She was the only one that just wanted to go back to sleep and act like it never happened.

[Facepalm]

 I still don't like lindsay. I haven't from the start, and these chapters didn't change that. I would still describe her as shallow and selfish.

 I'm not that surprised. I hadn't guessed it, but that seems sensible. A lot of times girls are friends at a young age only to fall apart when they get older.

I don't think she's less mysterious now. We still don't know why Lindsay stopped talking to her and any of that back story. All we know is that she was driven to suicide.

[Bethie2]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

I wasn't surprised at these revelations.  It just goes to show that everything about Lindsey is just a facade.  She is mean to others to take the focus off of herself.

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid?

This didn't surprise me.  When you are young your friends are those that are easiest to play with.  When we get older, we seek out those who are more like ourselves.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now?

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

 Bullying is a terrible thing. It has pushed some teens to suicide, like in the book.  Juliet must have hated coming to school everyday.  I find Lindsey to be unlikable at this point.

[ambika22]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

I still dont like Lindsay, but now i have more reasons for it. Even if i pity her a little, i think she must change her behaviour.

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid?

I was totally shocked when i read this. They are very different now, and Juliet laughs openly at Juliet. She is mean to her and encourages the others to do the same. The thing that happened between them and that separated them had to be a very serious thing.

[Vermontcozy]

Angry,unresolved issues,and lashes out at whoever gets in her way..More determined than ever to have the upper hand..After throwing Sam out of the car,and to me that was as real an event as the crash,she has spun out of control.In some twisted way,I think Lindsay is suicidal.Just my observation..     Not surprised that she was friends with Juliet,then Camp,and she labled Juliet ..So she became popular,and Juliet fell between the cracks,I think...I still need to learn more about the suicide to form any opinion..Because if its all tied up in a neat little package,which  Sams life isn't How do we know it was Juliet who committed suicide?I am having second thoughts about that..Vtc...

[KateBrianIsAwe…]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

My feelings have changed just tiny bit toward Lindsay. She has some issues that she needs to work out.

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid?

 No, I suspected they were friends from the get go.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now?

 I'm not sure how the deaths connect, but I think that it is fate that someone has to die that night. For me she had always been less mysterious. I know what she is going through in life. Having girls as friends is definitely not easy and sometimes complicated.

[jbg78]

I didn't like Lindsay at the beginning of the book, and I still don't like her.  I feel she is a terrible person.  The way she treats Juliet is just wrong.   

[DSlaughter]

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We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now? I think my feelings for her changed for the worse in these chapters. I thought of Lindsay as a sno but a loyal friend..now I wonder what she wouldn't do to stay popular.

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid? Yes I was.  I didn't see her as the kind of girl who turned her back on her friends

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now? Poor Juliet! Her story alone gave me chills.  I think she is a lot less mysterious now and more of a real person with real problems.

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[retromom]

I do not like Lindsay. I think her goal in life is to be popular and if she steps on some toes to get there it's just too bad. I didn't like he rin the first two chapters but now I dislike her even more. She is like the girls' ring leader.

I was surprised about Lindsay and Juliet being friends at one time. I'm not sure Lindsay can be true friends with anyone.

I found Juliet to be more mysterious after her suicide. I think there must be much more to her story and I'm wondering if it has to do with Lindsay.

[Grace2133]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now? Frankly, no. My feelings did not change at all. In fact, I dislike her more. The fact that she may have at one point been a nice person makes her cruelty to someone who was once her friend that much worse.  

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid? Yes, I was surprised at first. But then I remembered that, when I was in high school, many of the popular kids were friends with the people they tortured when they were younger.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now? I thought that it was a life in exchange for a life but, then again, we don’t know what happens to Juliet when Sam dies in the earlier chapters. So, I am not really sure what to think of Juliet’s death in relation to Sam’s. I do think that both deaths were directly or indirectly caused by Lindsay. Lindsay was driving that car when Sam died and she bullied Juliet into committing suicide. I’m not sure if it is because I really can’t stand the character or if I am right. I think Lindsay and Juliet both become more mysterious by Juliet’s death not less. How did that friendship end? Why is Lindsay bullying a former friend?

[Tessa_Haize]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

- I like Lindsay even less, but I can see that there had to be something that makes her act the way she does.

To me her antagonizing, bitterness, and reserve is just a wall. She controls their group of friends and controls how everyone acts towards everyone else in an attempt to gain control over feelings that she cannot control in herself. If she fights and breaks down everyone else's feelings I think she feels she can come that much closer to winning over her own. At least that is what I feel about her so far. 

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid?

- I was not surprised to find out that Lindsay and Juliet were childhood friends. I kind of guessed they had been and when that part came it confirmed it. If they were best friends, Juliet wetting her sleeping bag at the GS sleepover would not have made her BFF want to go around spreading the nick name Mellow Yellow and embarrass her like that. Something bigger had to happen to trigger the hate Lindsay has for Juliet.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide.

How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now?

- I am not sure how Juliet's suicide ties in with Sam's death. Sam managed to avoid death yet she still woke up on February 12th agian. I think it is more of this is her oppertunity to find herself and to help others find themselves as well. A chance to make things right in her life; she has become so different from her true self that it lead to her death. If she can find her self, make a start at changing her wrongs to rights and help her friends discover the same I believe that will stop her "time bubble". I guess I will have to keep reading to find out.

[Rebz]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

I can see that Lindsay wasn't always the way she is now but my feelings don't really change toward her.  If anything she seems more fake and kind of makes me dislike her even more since she turned her back on what was seemingly a good friendship at the expense of someone else.

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid?

I wasn't surprised at all. It's often the case that the best of friends become the worst of enemies. I kind of even anticipated the fact.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now?

Sam didn't help anyone and she didn't help change anyone for the better.  Which really should be her main goal in learning how to change her fate to relive the day over and over again.  I think she's more mysterious now because we can only guess what kind of horrible things must have happened that Lindsay was a part of to make her be the way she is now. Before we could have assumed that she was just always that way...and it wasn't a result of someone else's doing.

[Sunny206]

Well, I think I'm on my own here when I say this, but I liked Lindsay. There's a vulnerability to her--one that you can't see at first, that becomes apparent when Sam tells the story about Lindsay throwing up at the restaurant or about how Lindsay and Juliet's friendship fell apart--that makes me feel for her. I don't think she's afraid of becoming unpopular. I think she's worried about losing control, or losing the strong, confident front she keeps up.

I was a little surprised that Juliet and LIndsay were friends, but it became more apparent as Lindsay's behavior became more toxic.

Something horrible--I almost thought less of Juliet for committing the suicide. Bullying is a horrible thing with lifelong effects, but as I read further into the story (past these chapters), Juliet's goals became apparent: to end it for herself, and to make everyone feels the effects of it. So I wonder: Does this make her selfish? If she's single-mindedly fixated on her own demise, without thought to the effect on others (maybe not her friends, but her family certainly, like her younger sister) doesn't this make her a little like Lindsay, who is focused on keeping up her wall and also single-mindedly focused on her friends?

Just some thoughts.

[hollyhocks333]

We learn a great deal about Lindsay in these chapters. Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

I think we definitely begin to feel pity for her and realize that she has a number of issues and insecurties that stem from very real problems.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now?

I don't think she was any less mysterious, I mean lets face it, most people who are tormented and rejected in high school are like Juliet, for some dumb, random reason they are targeted.  The fact that LIndsay was the original perpetrator was hardly surprising.

[Pixii_Stixx]

I actually wasn't as surprised as I thought I'd be. It felt like there was too much hatred towards Juliet. It didn't make sense. Especially since Lindsey refused to say anything on the topic.

[CharlieG31]

Do your feelings for her change? How would you describe her now?

I believe my feelings for her have not changed, and I believe I must read another day before I can describe her. Or maybe she is like so shallow that I can't find a feeling for her lol . What I currently see is that she has climbed her way to the top and now she is Queen Bee and feels like she is who she is by all the hard social work she has done and when Sam starts yelling at her in the car , she kicks her out because she is questioning her status as Queen Bee and now Lindsay feels she has the status she deserves and she will not let someone or anyone for the matter to get near her and tell her that she is a manipulative b mean girl. 

Are you surprised to learn she'd been best friends with Juliet as a young kid?

I was actually not so surprised because it seems all the girls changed their way at a certain time in order to become who they are. Of course now that Juliet Sykes is a kind of psycho Lindsay will try to be the meanest with her because just as Sam did with Kent she must not be related to Juliet by ay situation and she would not like for someone to remember that she was once a friend with Juliet because that would destroy her social fame, and who she is.

In this chapter, just when Sam thinks she's escaped her awful fate, we learn of Juliet's suicide. How does this tie into Sam's death? We can guess how much Juliet's probably been tormented by being so rejected, and we know about her young friendship with Lindsay. Is she any less mysterious of a character now?

She seems much more mysterious now because now it seems it is a key part in the story. The roll of Juliet Sykes in this story will certainly be a key roll in the story so I hope to read some more in order to figure out how does Juliet fit in this story completely.

[Sheltiemama]

Juliet breaks my heart. I want to hug her and tell her that things really will get better and that real life isn't like high school. She's a little less mysterious now, but I want to know more about her. And I want someone to be nice to her.

I was surprised to learn Lindsay and Juliet had been best friends. And for all her bravado, Lindsay is scared.

[Vermontcozy]

Vtcozy wrote;  You are not alone..You were able to see the different layers of Lindsay,as with all the characters,very insightful..Appreciate your thoughts...Vtc  Susan

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Sunny206 wrote:

Well, I think I'm on my own here when I say this, but I liked Lindsay. There's a vulnerability to her--one that you can't see at first, that becomes apparent when Sam tells the story about Lindsay throwing up at the restaurant or about how Lindsay and Juliet's friendship fell apart--that makes me feel for her. I don't think she's afraid of becoming unpopular. I think she's worried about losing control, or losing the strong, confident front she keeps up.

I was a little surprised that Juliet and LIndsay were friends, but it became more apparent as Lindsay's behavior became more toxic.

Something horrible--I almost thought less of Juliet for committing the suicide. Bullying is a horrible thing with lifelong effects, but as I read further into the story (past these chapters), Juliet's goals became apparent: to end it for herself, and to make everyone feels the effects of it. So I wonder: Does this make her selfish? If she's single-mindedly fixated on her own demise, without thought to the effect on others (maybe not her friends, but her family certainly, like her younger sister) doesn't this make her a little like Lindsay, who is focused on keeping up her wall and also single-mindedly focused on her friends?

Just some thoughts.

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