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So...similar to a movie, when a character leaves all of the time, it heightens your suspicion.  Jules was an early suspect for me.  Although, I have to admit, the amount of death in a YA novel surprised me.  Also surprising (pleasantly), Elliott.  Elliott's greed obviously got the best of him, and I was happy to see that it really did not 'pay off' for him in the end. 

 

Patch is a delightful character.  Fallen angel or not, he struggled with making choices (good and bad), just like the rest of us do every day.  Refreshing to see Becca Fitzpatrick bring that to life - uncompromised.

 

Thanks for a great book!  Already looking forward to Crescendo!

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Catalina:

 

YEs! Twilight rip-off for he exact same reasons and then some: Nora living with her mom only and always on her own, plain Jane type, reserved and very bookish, going to new neighborhoods to explore and the location: Portland! Etc.

 

But, I did devour the book, the writing was quick, concise and drew me in.Patch was fun to read about and the sexual tension bwtn him and Nora was hot, but age appropriate too.

 

The problems I have with the plot:

 

Too many contradicting/overlapping issues: would someone who celebrates a Jewish holiday be able to recall what their tutor taught from the Bible (in the prologue)

What is the deal w/the iron pills?

Vee seems to be over the top in some scenes and just fizzle in others, not consistent.

The gym scene REALLY bothered me : where the heck was Patch when Nora was scaling up the ladder to the rafter? He was "speaking to  her mind" but why didn't he fight off Chauncey?

There were awkward gaps bwtwn big scenes: the fire at her house, the night at the school and then when the cops show up the next day - her mom is just getting home??

And speaking of, if the cops weren't involved in the whole deal with Chauncey and the Nephils (like I thought they were) they why were they such jerks? And if she's only 17 (16?) they would not be allowed to interrogate her without a parent..

 

Little things: like when her mom mentions to Patch "wouldn't that be cold?" (swimming in lakes) and he reacted weird, I thought it would tell us Mom knew what Patch was...

Who was the girl Patch fell for that got old and died?  And why didn't his angel girlfriend freak out then?

 

Those are just some gripes..

 

I thought the ending was weak - cause now that Patch is a guardian angel, yes its sweet, but he still can't "feel" Nora.  I thought he would still be able to become human ... bummed.

 

what I loved will be in another post (see, I'm not all negative nellie!)

 

 

Mary Jo

 

 


 

 

I totally agree with the cops issue. Somehow, we get the vibe that they're involved in the whole Fallen Angel bussiness. Something about them screams "suspicion" and their attitude, as Mary said, is way too abrasive. And, yes, I know cops are really cold and straight-to-the-point people, but something with them was just...off. So, personally, it was a surprise when I ended the book discovering they had nothing to do with all of this. But, who knows, maybe they are involved, and we will get to see it on Crescendo.

 

Tatiana

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I liked this book, but I definitely didn't love it. Becca Fitzpatrick's writing was better than some other YA novels I've read. She kept the pace moving along quickly, and I was pretty entertained throughout the book. I finished it in less than a day. But boy oh boy, maybe I'm in the minority, but I really didn't like Patch! I DO NOT understand the appeal of jerk guys in YA literature! (Yes, I'm on Team Jacob!) Patch was an ass to Nora, and she just ate it up. How is that sexy? Not until the end do we see him actually caring for her; for basically the first half of the book, he's nothing but antagonistic and arrogant. Their romance felt forced. I liked that the supernatural element was fallen angels - I'm sure we're all getting a little tired of vampires - but more background on the mythology would have been nice, and not all as an infodump near the end.

 

That sounds pretty negative...I did like it, and I will most likely read the sequel. I feel that the subsequent book(s) would have to be better, since Fitzpatrick can focus on more character development now that the ground level has been built.

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Okay, so, I really liked the book (mostly because of Patch's character and Vee). It's fast-paced, funny, has a lot of suspense, sizzling romantic chemistry, and a very interesting topic (Fallen Angels and Nephilims). This is the third book I've read about Nephilims, and all I can say is that Hush, Hush pulls it off really good. It's a very nice addition.

However, even if I liked this book a lot, it has a lot of issues that keep it away from a five-starred reading. These little things are what keeps me away, too, from putting it on my top list. Such things are:

-Blythe's (Nora's mom) continuous absence. A mother leaving her teenager daughter on her own for several days? In an isolated house where anything could happen, where anyone could be hiding under that thick fog veiling the house, making it even more dangerous? That just doesn't make any sense to me. Ask any Mom.

-Nora's age. Is she 16 or 17? First, we're told she is, indeed, 16, but then, in some part of the book I don't remember, it says she's 17?!!?

-We never get to see a substantial dialogue between Nora and Patch. Don't get me wrong, I love all the witty comments and innuendos, but since this is a love story at the core, a forbidden love one, we should see a meaningful scene between the two of them. Patch's goal was to kill Nora. I mean, that's a hardcore thing, and we don't see that paramount transition from dark to light, from selfishness to love. LOVE. Actually, I don't see where the love is. Yes, there is a lot of chemistry scorching the pages, but it just ends like...that. Shallow, with no profoundness. There should be more depth to it.

-Blythe's characterization is poorly done. We never got the chance to really know her. She's just mentioned here and there, and...that's it. I remember the first time we are introduced to her, it just felt flat. There was nothing there. We just know she looks a lot like Nora, that she works her ass off to pay the house, but--maybe I am the only one in this--I ended the book and I can't say I know her. I just hope her character is more developed in Crescendo.

-The First kiss...the big, heart-racing scene we were all waiting for, but, um, where did it go? I just didn't feel it. For me, it was dissapointing. It was way too fast, flat and...lacking. Maybe it's because Nora's and Patch's relationship is kept on superficial layers, I don't know, but whatever the reason was, it was...lacking.

-The cops issue. I just mentioned it above, on another post.

-There are scenes that end up too abruptly (chapter's 12 ending and Patch's scene at pg. 204)

-Where's the invisible thread between Vee and Nora? It doesn't show. We're just told it's there, but I don't see it anywhere.

-I don't know if they'll keep it like this, or if it was intentional, but there are some parts where Patch is talking to Nora's mind and the use of italics is discarded, whereas at the beginning it wasn't. Is that supposed to be like that, or just a publishing mistake?

-There was this thing that bugged me at the end, where Patch leaves through the window and a feather is on the outer pane. Nora sees it. But, isn't that impossible? Aren't the wings made of spiritual matter, therefore invisible as Patch said to Nora when she couldn't see his wings? Hmm, it doesn't make sense.

-And there are still some tiny typos left on the book, but that's another issue.

 

Oh, and one more thing. I know everyone is compairing this book to Twilight (which is, right now, every YA writer's curse. I hope it'll pass someday) and I do see the similarities (hey, I am aTwi-fan, I read the books long before it was made into a movie), but for me, this book is a lot more similar to the Mortal Instruments Trilogy than Twilight. Both deal with the Nephilims, in a different way, yes, but still, there is a slight resemblance between Patch and Jace (one of the Mortal Instruments leading character). They're both cocky, arrogant and angel descendants. I am sure I am not the only one who has read it here. Many of you should know what I am talking about.

 

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Tatiana -

Yes, I know what you mean about Jace. And he's another male character in YA fiction that I couldn't stand!

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Well, I loved Jace. He starts being an ass in City of Bones, but we get to see a tender side in him, something I really didn't see with Patch. We can see that Jace cares about Clary, but Patch doesn't really show he cares that much about Nora, and that's what missing here. Like I said, there should be more depth to their relationship.

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I forced myself through this book because of all the buzz and so many people loving it.  But there were PLENTY of nights that ended with me literally throwing it across the room.  Sometimes because the plot was way too trite (seriously, how many times have I read a guy teaching a girl to play pool just to get his hands on her?) and other times because it was just downright too contrived (Nora out of nowhere announcing that she needed sugar when they were at the carnival for a convienent excuse to go get cotton candy and then ditch her friend and date to follow Patch's orders to ride the coaster with him - when nowhere else in the book does she get random sugar cravings).

 

I struggled through this book with one hope: that Patch was manipulating Nora's mind and that's why she liked him.  It was the only way I could understand why every moment she wasn't near him she disliked him and hated herself for liking him, and then every time she was around him she forgot about her self-respect, her friends, her family and her own safety.

 

In the end, I didn't just not like this book, I am apalled by it.  Not because I thought the plot was way too forced in too many places (how many ways for today's teens to lose/forget to charge a cell phone) or because the writing lacked in places and the pacing was off.  But because I can't understand how anyone can glorify Patch and his relationship with Nora, nor can I understand how anyone could say that he's a good buy in the end. 

 

Patch does nothing but manipulate, domineer, and disrespect Nora at every turn.  What are we telling young girls?  That the best relationships are the ones where the guy doesn't compliment and support you?  That it's okay for a guy to pretend his car is broken down so he can corner you in a seedy pay-by-the-hour motel?  That it's okay for you to ditch your friends at the carnival and make them worry about you because some guy asks you to, even after you repreatedly tell him you don't want to?  I saw Patch as emotionally abusive and Nora as trying to avoid him until he essentially beats her down into being with him.  He actually manipulates her mind time after time just to scare her into being with him.

 

Like others, maybe if I'd seen moments when he's tender with her I'd understand.  If I could see a reason she wants to be with him other than "there's something about him."  And him chosing to save her in the end isn't enough for me.  Even the new ending where he demands her to kiss him, in front of her mother who's a little freaked out and suspicious, shows that through and through he's domineering and disrespectful.

 

I'm very sad to write a harsh review, but I'm even sadder at the teen girls out there who think that Nora and Patch's relationship is one to glorify.  That one good act amidst a sea of bad ones is enough for them and that they don't deserve better.

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WOW. I feel like I didn't read the same book as some of you. I loved it.  I read a really harsh review and you said you're sad to write such a harsh review. Really? Are you? That was really harsh I think, far and beyond. I don't see how it took nights reading it wanting to throw it against the wall.  It wasn't extremely long.  You're entitled to your opinion, I'm just surprised is all.

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GreenFairyLV wrote:

WOW. I feel like I didn't read the same book as some of you. I loved it.  I read a really harsh review and you said you're sad to write such a harsh review. Really? Are you? That was really harsh I think, far and beyond. I don't see how it took nights reading it wanting to throw it against the wall.  It wasn't extremely long.  You're entitled to your opinion, I'm just surprised is all.


 

 

agreed!

 

 If you didn't like it, why did you keep reading it?  If I disliked a book as much as you did (NOT  greenFairy, sorry, kinda replying to two posts here), why in the world did you keep reading it? when I  don't like a book, I don't bother to finish it, usually.  But, I am one who would rather speak up when I LIKE something rather than when I dislike something.  I could almost write a dissertation about that, but I won't.

 

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I just LOVED this book!! I had a hard time putting it down, every time I was told to go do something I had to be told twice or more because I had just spaced out while reading it. With school and everything it took me about a week to finish the whole thing. This was the first non vampire book that I have read, and I think it was one of the best books I have read. Can't wait for the next one!

 

Patch was my favorite character. There were times when I wasn't sure if he was good or bad. Yet for some reason the underlined thought I had was "He is the good guy I know he is!" Elliot at first I thought that he was perfectly fine. Just a guy hitting on a girl that he didn't really know, but then he just got creepy. When Nora found that article though I was really freaked out about that because of how much interest he seemed to show in her, and when he visited her house when he was drunk, I thought that something worse was going to happen. I can honestly say that even though Jules was acting extremely weird, I had never suspected him to be behind it all. I just thought that he really didn't like Nora or something like that.

 

Like I said though THE BEST BOOK EVER!!!! I really loved it.

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philomenia: i know what you mean, bad book and bad relationship. But this is was girls who have never had a good relationship or think they need one like. That's why people keep reading the abusive possessive relationships. I read that someone didn't understand why you kept reading after wants to throw the book to the wall. I understand :smileyvery-happy: I want so badly to get into the next first look for teens book club that i endured the plot. I'm not saying that's what you're doing but that's what I'm doing :smileytongue:

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Philomenia wrote:

I forced myself through this book because of all the buzz and so many people loving it.  But there were PLENTY of nights that ended with me literally throwing it across the room.  Sometimes because the plot was way too trite (seriously, how many times have I read a guy teaching a girl to play pool just to get his hands on her?) and other times because it was just downright too contrived (Nora out of nowhere announcing that she needed sugar when they were at the carnival for a convienent excuse to go get cotton candy and then ditch her friend and date to follow Patch's orders to ride the coaster with him - when nowhere else in the book does she get random sugar cravings).

 

I struggled through this book with one hope: that Patch was manipulating Nora's mind and that's why she liked him.  It was the only way I could understand why every moment she wasn't near him she disliked him and hated herself for liking him, and then every time she was around him she forgot about her self-respect, her friends, her family and her own safety.

 

In the end, I didn't just not like this book, I am apalled by it.  Not because I thought the plot was way too forced in too many places (how many ways for today's teens to lose/forget to charge a cell phone) or because the writing lacked in places and the pacing was off.  But because I can't understand how anyone can glorify Patch and his relationship with Nora, nor can I understand how anyone could say that he's a good buy in the end. 

 

Patch does nothing but manipulate, domineer, and disrespect Nora at every turn.  What are we telling young girls?  That the best relationships are the ones where the guy doesn't compliment and support you?  That it's okay for a guy to pretend his car is broken down so he can corner you in a seedy pay-by-the-hour motel?  That it's okay for you to ditch your friends at the carnival and make them worry about you because some guy asks you to, even after you repreatedly tell him you don't want to?  I saw Patch as emotionally abusive and Nora as trying to avoid him until he essentially beats her down into being with him.  He actually manipulates her mind time after time just to scare her into being with him.

 

Like others, maybe if I'd seen moments when he's tender with her I'd understand.  If I could see a reason she wants to be with him other than "there's something about him."  And him chosing to save her in the end isn't enough for me.  Even the new ending where he demands her to kiss him, in front of her mother who's a little freaked out and suspicious, shows that through and through he's domineering and disrespectful.

 

I'm very sad to write a harsh review, but I'm even sadder at the teen girls out there who think that Nora and Patch's relationship is one to glorify.  That one good act amidst a sea of bad ones is enough for them and that they don't deserve better.


 

Sorry you're getting such criticism for giving a negative review.  I too hated the book for pretty much all the same reasons and then some.  I thought the purpose of a book club was to discuss and let's face it discussions aren't as much fun if we all agree so kudos to you for giving your honest opinion. 

 

As to the person who couldn't understand why someone would finish a book they hate, well for one reason being in this book club is contigent on participation.  They will give you a free ARC and pay to mail it out to you if you agree to read it and participate in the discussions.  I for one feel an obligation to live up to my end of the deal (and I want to be allowed in the next one which hopefully will have a better book choice!).  Also, many of us finish a book once we've started it because it may get better, we may still want to find out the ending, etc.  It's ok for us to not all like the same books or having the same reading habits.

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I like hearing all sides of a book.

Your post made me think would I have wanted my daughter to be in that type of relationship. The answer is no.

Your viewpoint was well written.

I for one appreciate hearing all points of view. The board is pretty boring without this kind of discussion.

 

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Philomenia wrote:

I forced myself through this book because of all the buzz and so many people loving it.  But there were PLENTY of nights that ended with me literally throwing it across the room.  Sometimes because the plot was way too trite (seriously, how many times have I read a guy teaching a girl to play pool just to get his hands on her?) and other times because it was just downright too contrived (Nora out of nowhere announcing that she needed sugar when they were at the carnival for a convienent excuse to go get cotton candy and then ditch her friend and date to follow Patch's orders to ride the coaster with him - when nowhere else in the book does she get random sugar cravings).

 

I struggled through this book with one hope: that Patch was manipulating Nora's mind and that's why she liked him.  It was the only way I could understand why every moment she wasn't near him she disliked him and hated herself for liking him, and then every time she was around him she forgot about her self-respect, her friends, her family and her own safety.

 

In the end, I didn't just not like this book, I am apalled by it.  Not because I thought the plot was way too forced in too many places (how many ways for today's teens to lose/forget to charge a cell phone) or because the writing lacked in places and the pacing was off.  But because I can't understand how anyone can glorify Patch and his relationship with Nora, nor can I understand how anyone could say that he's a good buy in the end. 

 

Patch does nothing but manipulate, domineer, and disrespect Nora at every turn.  What are we telling young girls?  That the best relationships are the ones where the guy doesn't compliment and support you?  That it's okay for a guy to pretend his car is broken down so he can corner you in a seedy pay-by-the-hour motel?  That it's okay for you to ditch your friends at the carnival and make them worry about you because some guy asks you to, even after you repreatedly tell him you don't want to?  I saw Patch as emotionally abusive and Nora as trying to avoid him until he essentially beats her down into being with him.  He actually manipulates her mind time after time just to scare her into being with him.

 

Like others, maybe if I'd seen moments when he's tender with her I'd understand.  If I could see a reason she wants to be with him other than "there's something about him."  And him chosing to save her in the end isn't enough for me.  Even the new ending where he demands her to kiss him, in front of her mother who's a little freaked out and suspicious, shows that through and through he's domineering and disrespectful.

 

I'm very sad to write a harsh review, but I'm even sadder at the teen girls out there who think that Nora and Patch's relationship is one to glorify.  That one good act amidst a sea of bad ones is enough for them and that they don't deserve better.


 

 

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pen21 wrote:

I like hearing all sides of a book.

Your post made me think would I have wanted my daughter to be in that type of relationship. The answer is no.

Your viewpoint was well written.

I for one appreciate hearing all points of view. The board is pretty boring without this kind of discussion.

 

pen21

 

 


Oh, no doubt, I enjoy all viewpoints.  We all agree to disagree here, right? :smileyvery-happy:  No, I wouldn't want my daughter to be in that type of relationship either- or anyone to be in one for that matter!  I have participated in FL books that I just couldn't finish, didn't like enough to, and gave reasons why as well.  In fact, I have disliked more FL books than I have liked at this point.  So my record isn't very good! :smileysurprised:  
But, in reading fiction, to me, one needs to be able to suspend normal belief, and take it for what it is worth.  I have heard/participated in  plenty of discussion with teens in real life and in what they are reading.  Most are able to discern reality and fiction. We have discussed after reading (Twilight) what makes a good 'story' and what is not healthy in the same relationships.  I have no issues with a teen reading about what we consider to be an 'unhealthy' relationship, as long as they are able to understand that such relationships are that.  
So, I, as well as others I presume, suspend the norm, and allow myself to be absorbed into the fantasy for awhile.  Fallen angels, vampires, wizards,  whatever.  It's all just fiction.  I remember the bru-ha-ha  about "Harry Potter" being about witchcraft, and how that should be banned from schools because of that. (and that is just the most recent that I can recall just off the cuff, never mind others through the years).  I had a student that wasn't allowed to read that because of the 'witchcraft' involved.   
Ok,  Liisa steps off her soapbox now.   :smileysad:

 

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Liisa22--

 

I agree with you. Hush, Hush, as many other YA books, deal with Fantasy and outer-worldly phenomena. They show us a parallel extension of our lives with a tad of hot sauce and mind-swelling garnish on the side. To me, this is what Fiction is, and reading a book in this genre implies entering the fictive world the author has created--a world where normal rules don't longer apply. And isn't that what the great majority is looking for? We're given the chance to fly away into another reality still knowing is not our true reality. Teenagers are capable of telling the difference between what's real and Fiction. And, yes, maybe the hype can lead them into wishing things that aren't considered healthy, but that's what it is, just hype. They eventually know is all a fantasy.

A book is a source of entertainment, and just like every source of entertainment (movies, games, music) they have a PG-rating that's there to control the level of maturity of its costumers. If we don't respect it, or if as parents leave our kids with no limits, then that's our problem.

 

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I finished the book even though I didn't like it for a few reasons.  As I said in my review, one reason was to find out if the reason Nora seemed to hate Patch when she wasn't around him but like him when he was around was if he was manipulating her mind into it; to find out if he was somehow compelling her to like him.  I just couldn't figure out why every time he wasn't around she seemed to not like him and every time he was around she did.  I also finished it because it's been getting such high praise and buzz and I wanted to know why and see if the end changed my opinion.  Also, like others have pointed out, I finished because it's part of what I agreed to do with the First Look program. 

 

For what it's worth, I didn't think my review was overly harsh, though it was honest, and I was genuinely upset not to like this book because usually even when I don't like a book I can understand why other people do.  In this case, I still can't figure out the allure to Patch and that upsets me.  I like to understand what draws other people to books.  But I did try to change my actual review of Hush Hush and wasn't able to.

 

As for the fact that this is fiction and we have to suspend disbelief, I agree.  I had no problem with Patch being a fallen angel and all of that. Yet I wasn't able to suspend my disbelief about the relationship.  I still didn't see reason for Nora to like Patch and to ditch her friends and mother for him.  And I wouldn't want my friends to be in a relationship like that.  I was flipping through the pages last night trying to find an instance where Patch compliments Nora and couldn't.  Other than to call her vulnerable which I don't find as a compliment.

 

 

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Hi I just wanted to say I'm having such a good time discussing this book.  And by this thread alone I can see some of us have very different opinions.  Debate is healthy.  I sure hope no one feels like they are being attacked.  I was thinking a lot about what Philomenia posted early last night, I still feel her review was too harsh, but I am coming from a totally different place because I loved the book.  I can't imagine if I hated it as much as she did, having to comment on some of these threads, which is what we are suppose to do.  Love it or hate it we should all post our comments because it is what we signed up for.  This is a great opportunity to be apart of first looks.

Philomenia I know you really disliked the book, but I appauld you for your earlier post where you said something like You were flipping back through the pages trying to find an instance where Patch compliments Nora.  Even though you hated it so you are still trying to see what others are and being about of this discussion.

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Philomenia wrote:

I finished the book even though I didn't like it for a few reasons.  As I said in my review, one reason was to find out if the reason Nora seemed to hate Patch when she wasn't around him but like him when he was around was if he was manipulating her mind into it; to find out if he was somehow compelling her to like him.  I just couldn't figure out why every time he wasn't around she seemed to not like him and every time he was around she did.  I also finished it because it's been getting such high praise and buzz and I wanted to know why and see if the end changed my opinion.  Also, like others have pointed out, I finished because it's part of what I agreed to do with the First Look program. 

 

For what it's worth, I didn't think my review was overly harsh, though it was honest, and I was genuinely upset not to like this book because usually even when I don't like a book I can understand why other people do.  In this case, I still can't figure out the allure to Patch and that upsets me.  I like to understand what draws other people to books.  But I did try to change my actual review of Hush Hush and wasn't able to.

 

As for the fact that this is fiction and we have to suspend disbelief, I agree.  I had no problem with Patch being a fallen angel and all of that. Yet I wasn't able to suspend my disbelief about the relationship.  I still didn't see reason for Nora to like Patch and to ditch her friends and mother for him.  And I wouldn't want my friends to be in a relationship like that.  I was flipping through the pages last night trying to find an instance where Patch compliments Nora and couldn't.  Other than to call her vulnerable which I don't find as a compliment.

 

 



 

 

I am glad to see opposing viewpoints on books; I just am not one to say too much at all when I don't like one.  

Out of the 6 (i think) First Looks I have been a part of, I have only liked 2.  I posted very, VERY little about the ones that I didn't like, and a lot about the ones that I did.  So I am glad of the people  (you!) that have the courage to go against the majority!   I did finish the ones that I didn't like (much like you), and boy it was difficult!  I just would never, ever had posted that I wanted to throw it against the wall, several times! LOL

I wanted to like the books that  I didn't; and like you, went back through to see what I  might have been missing, that most everyone else was getting!  I never did! Oh well, that's why there are so many different books anyway.  

 

Kudos for speaking your mind! 

 

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Re: All Spoilers Welcome Thread

Philomena said--

 

As for the fact that this is fiction and we have to suspend disbelief, I agree.  I had no problem with Patch being a fallen angel and all of that. Yet I wasn't able to suspend my disbelief about the relationship.  I still didn't see reason for Nora to like Patch and to ditch her friends and mother for him.  And I wouldn't want my friends to be in a relationship like that.  I was flipping through the pages last night trying to find an instance where Patch compliments Nora and couldn't.  Other than to call her vulnerable which I don't find as a compliment.

 

 


 

 

Yes, you are right on not being able to suspend your disbilief about the relationship, given that YA books deal, after all, with teen girls that are still being molded. The relationship between Nora and Patch isn't healthy, that's a fact, and I do understand how some parents may be worried over this. Maybe I would be if I was one.

But like you said, Philomena, what disturbs me more in this relationship is the fact that there is no depth to the relationship, no substantial conversation between the two of them. Everything is kept on superficial layers--witty comments, innuendos, some, but not many, tender touches.

This book is about forbidden love, about LOVE...and like I said before, I don't see where the love is between the two of them. We're just told Patch begins caring for her, which is what stops from killing her, but there are no obvious signs of it anywhere. Or was I blind and didn't see it? I don't know. That's what disturbs me about the relationship. If you're going to work with the ultimate badboy and make him fall in love with the good girl, you have to make the transition obvious so the relationship doesn't come as "unhealthy", but that doesn't happen here, which makes the relationship even sicker. 

 

But, despite that, I liked the book. It has a good premise, Becca just needs to work on her character's feelings more deeply.

 

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Re: All Spoilers Welcome Thread

I just finished this book yesterday. I really enjoyed it and am already waiting for a sequel! It was really hard for me to put down. The first night I started reading it, I read the first seven chapters. xD

 

I did see A LOT of Twilight similarities, though, like several others here. This sort of bothered me, but I was still able to enjoy Hush, Hush for what it was.

 

The closer I got to the end of the novel, the more rushed the plot and characters felt.

 

It was also pretty predictable. I knew that Jules and Elliot were up to something together. (However, for most of the time I thought it was Elliot's idea to kill Nora. Not Jules's). I knew from way early on in the book that Miss Greene had to have personal connections with Patch. It did surprise me that Jules ended up being Chauncey, though. That was interesting.

 

All in all... I found it to be enjoyable to read. It was a very quick and easy read and a good thing to pass the time by if needed.

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