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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

This section of the book had a lot of emotional conflict swirling around with more questions answered for me. Daniel and Meridia almost lost each other after Noah's birth. What was interesting was how Erick portrayed Meridia just as if she were you or me. Haven't we all been in situations where we knew we were doing or saying something wrong or off, yet were powerless to change it? That is how I felt with Meridia. She kept wondering if her actions were the same as Ravenna's had been, and if this was what had driven the wedge between her parents. Thankfully, Meridia snapped out of her "funk" before her marriage was irrepairably destroyed.

 

Eva showed herself to be more of a witch by trying to bewitch Noah and turn him on Meridia. (I am anxious to see what her true power is because the men seem to be oblivious to her charms.) It is inexcusable for an adult to use a child as a pawn at any time. In her hatred for Meridia, Eva tried to take the only thing that seemed out of her reach. She could have really hurt Noah when she caused Elias to lose it. She could have done great damage to Noah if she had managed to get him into her house. The bird definitely fits into the magic here, and I was glad to see it destroyed. At first I thought that Ravenna had destroyed it, but now I am thinking it was Gabriel.

 

I also found Eva's actions at Malin's wedding unforgiveable. Cutting Permony out was aweful, and no one stood up to her. How can they all continue to let her control them? They have seen the damage she has done. Again, Eva seems to win. Again Permony seems to lose.

 

I was sorry to see Elias die because I thought he was finally breaking away from Eva's control. But, when she regained that control and he hurt Noah, something inside Elias died. I think he only held together for a while hoping to atone for his lifetime of letting her get to him. In the end, Elias died a broken, lonely man. His words to Meridia, "save her" (pg. 257) I thought immediately were meant for Permony. What does Elias think Eva will do to her now that he is gone?

 

 

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

In the middle chapters 20-30 you can see that Daniel is starting to develop his own personality. He is becoming a good father and husband. Meridia is developing into a young lady. She is starting  to question her treatment towards her husband. She hopes her frigid treatment isn't going to chase her husband away. Meridia is looking to develop a loving and lasting marriage with Daniel.

 

My feelings towards Ravenna and Gabriel are changing as I read more of the book. My question is if they will ever rekindle the love they once had. 

 

I think Pilar got into a situation that was hard to get out of. Gabriel was looking for someone to heal his wounds but he found Pilar. She just happened to be there at the wrong time. She pretended to befriend Meridia although she was sleeping with her father. If she truly cared about Meridia she would have sent Gabriel home. So  I really don't feel that sorry for her.

 

The last days of Elias life was tragic. He let Eva's bees send him to his death bed. His behavior in the end was not his fault but Eva's. Elias would never have  hurt Noah had it not been for the bees Eva sent after him.

 

Eva is becoming more creepier. She is out to destroy anyone who gets in the way of her getting her son's  love back. Her behavior towards Meridia,Permony is worst than you would treat a stranger.

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

This was definately the most emotional set of chapters so far. So many tragic events took place!

 

On a positive note I am happy to see Daniel growing more. He still wants to believe at times that his mother has good intentions while Meridia sees right through her. This sounds typical of many marriages, except in this case Eva is pure evil. But I am glad to see him standing up to her more. Their business is a great success!

 

I'm not sure what to make of Noah yet. The incident with the bird was odd. I'm still trying to figure out what happened when Noah entered Meridia's room & yelled to her, then the crashing of the bird cage & then it was gone. Later found with it's neck wrung. At first I wondered if he had something to do with it. There's definately something different about him.

 

The relationship between Ravenna & Gabriel continues to shed new light. Gabriel sneaking his daughter money, the ice that he has become encased in that only the shovel that Ravenna once attacked him with could shatter. Pilar being the mistress was a surprise & the yellow mist matches the outfit she often wears!

 

Elias was a kind man & no doubt Eva was the cause of his death. She drove him so mad that he harmed his grandson & never forgave himself for this. I feel very sad for him but happy he is finally free of her!

 

I think Eva has become more desperate. Her attempts to get what she wants have grown more dangerous. Especially now that she doesn't have Elias to do her bidding. I had hoped that Malin being married & having a child would take her attention off Daniel's family but now with the death of the baby, I think she will be even more intent on hurting Meridia.

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

I forgot to mention, before Elias died, Meridia thinks he whispered "Save her". I think he meant Permony. She will be alone now with Eva. I would love for her to find a handsome rich man to marry, to rub in her mother's face, and then leave & never see her again!
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JerseyAngel wrote:
I forgot to mention, before Elias died, Meridia thinks he whispered "Save her". I think he meant Permony. She will be alone now with Eva. I would love for her to find a handsome rich man to marry, to rub in her mother's face, and then leave & never see her again!
You know I wondered about that, I at first thought it was Permony too, but what if he was talking about Eva. I mean even after everything I think that Elias loved Eva, maybe he wants her to be able to go to that peaceful place with him after she dies and maybe he thinks that if she keeps being a bit-h that the who ever rules the heavens will keep her out.
Just something to think about 

 

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Re: My thoughts: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

That's my concern too - that he means Eva, who to my mind does not warrant saving - rather a wretched woman!

 

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  I think the person that Elias was referring to was Permony. I am hoping

that he did not mean Eva.


 

 

 

 
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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30/Couples

Gabriel and Ravenna have almost destroyed each other. All in the quest of perfect love (according to Patina). They didn't allow any imperfection and that seems to be the backbone of their collapsing marriage. I had suspected Patina as his mistress, but it was still a shock. I was so excited to see Ravenna grab Meridia and go fight for him. On pg. 267, we read about the hailstorm of flowers, the rain, and the wind that tries to stop them. For once, Ravenna's know comes undone. Then, she and Meridia run in and grab Gabriel to take him home. Will he survive? Will their marriage survive? How did Ravenna get the letter? I can't wait to finish the book to find out.

 

Elias and Eva seemed to have loved each other once but had grown into shells sharing the house. When Elias' temper caused Noah to be hurt, I think it killed Elias. While he lived a short time longer, he wasn't really there. I wonder if it finally settled on him how much damage he had allowed Eva to do. In the end, Eva tried to control him enough to stop his death. In the end, Elias won.

 

Daniel and Meridia have certainly had their ups and downs. Meridia's coldness after Noah's birth appeared to take the life from the marriage. Then, she snapped out of it. While they initially fought for their marriage, Daniel slowly fell back under his mother's spell. Finally, they announce that the jewelry is really a result of their partnerships and get to move from Eva's grasp. While she tries to lure Noah from them, eventually they become a strong family again. They have only done that due to help from Ravenna, Gabriel, and Elias. Will they continue to grow in their love?

 

Jonathan and Malin appear to love each other. Jonathan certainly seems to worship Malin. Their wedding was ostentacious, but they made it through. The death of the baby was devastating and I wonder if they will survive the loss.

 

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

I also thought of Eva, Debbie. While I think he wants Meridia to save Permony, there is that niggle that says he truly wants Eva kept safe, maybe from herself.


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You know I wondered about that, I at first thought it was Permony too, but what if he was talking about Eva. I mean even after everything I think that Elias loved Eva, maybe he wants her to be able to go to that peaceful place with him after she dies and maybe he thinks that if she keeps being a bit-h that the who ever rules the heavens will keep her out.
Just something to think about 

 


 

 

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Please use use one of these or one of your own questions to start discussing our current chapters!

 

 

Each new set of circumstances in the novel exposes us to another facet of each of the characters. In Daniel for example, we have now seen him as a lover, as a husband, as a son, as an in-law, and now, as a father. Is he a different character in his different roles?

 

How about Meridia in each of her roles?

 

How are you thoughts about each of the characters shifting? Pilar, Gabriel, Ravenna, and others?

 

Have you re-evaluated the love relationship between Gabriel and Ravenna?

 

How would you describe the end of Elias' life? Is this a man who lived a satisfying life at all? What were his biggest flaws and regrets?

 

How have Eva's tactics changed so far in the novel? Is there a chance we will see a better side of this woman?

 

 


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  I believe that Daniel has grown throughout the story, at least to this point.  He still shows some childlike tendencies from time to time, but overall, he has grown and matured.

  As a young man, smitten when he first laid his eyes on Meridia, it was what I would describe as Puppy Love.  As the courtship developed and he realized how truly in love he was with Meridia, he showed some outward baby steps at maturing.  Once He and Meridia were married, I 'm not sure he totally understood the concept or his responsibilities.  Meridia actually had to push him to develop as a man. 

  Now with a family of his own, that being with Meridia and Noah, he appears to be taking charge of his life and now allowing his mother to control their lives.  I found this to be true with the introduction of Samuel, the formed partnership between Daniel and Meridia/Samuel, with regard to the Jewelry Shop.  I definitely see room for improvement on Daniel's part, but he is progressing. 

  Meridia has always had to control her life.  Even as a child living at home, she needed to be or at least act strong and independent, because of the assumed lack of love or direction from her parents.  Again with the time going along, she is still growing and developing her own mature skills and she certainly appears to be able to take care of her own little family.  She can even stand up to and control Eva's advances. 

  A thought that has been picking at my brain while reading is if Meridia is going to develop any type of magical powers somewhere in the future. 

 

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First off, It was really hard to put the book down after finishing chapter 30. I really wanted to finish. 

 

 *snip*

 


Pilar I feel sorry for I don't think this is her fault, I don't condone adultery, but I don't think she went looking for Gabriel I think he went looking for her and like some one some where I'm sure said, You can't help who you fall in love with.

 

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I agree entirely with your entire post.  In reference to Pilar, when I found that she was Gabriel's mistress, I wondered why he didn't give her money to pay for her sister's medical treatment.  I was curious as to why Gabriel would allow Pilar to take all of Meridia and Daniel's remaining nest egg, when Gabriel could have easily given the money.  

 

I feel sorry for Pilar.  She lived her life as a second class citizen while the man who "kept" her could have easily afforded to support both families.  

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30/ Leah and Rebecca - Black and White

I think it might mean that some things can be interpreted according to mood, according to person involved, according to what one would like to see. Just listening to a conversation about politics or religion by people of opposing views clearly show that purple can be white or black, depending on who sees it. And even if two people are similar in their backgrounds they still might see things differently. Reminds me of witnesses at the scene of an accident.
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Just a couple of ?'s that I haven't figured out yet:

 

Does anyone out there have any ideas as to why Leah sees Ravenna wearing black and Rebecca sees her wearing white?  What is it supposed to mean?

 


 

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DSaff wrote:

This section of the book had a lot of emotional conflict swirling around with more questions answered for me. Daniel and Meridia almost lost each other after Noah's birth. What was interesting was how Erick portrayed Meridia just as if she were you or me. Haven't we all been in situations where we knew we were doing or saying something wrong or off, yet were powerless to change it? That is how I felt with Meridia. She kept wondering if her actions were the same as Ravenna's had been, and if this was what had driven the wedge between her parents. Thankfully, Meridia snapped out of her "funk" before her marriage was irrepairably destroyed.

 

Eva showed herself to be more of a witch by trying to bewitch Noah and turn him on Meridia. (I am anxious to see what her true power is because the men seem to be oblivious to her charms.) It is inexcusable for an adult to use a child as a pawn at any time. In her hatred for Meridia, Eva tried to take the only thing that seemed out of her reach. She could have really hurt Noah when she caused Elias to lose it. She could have done great damage to Noah if she had managed to get him into her house. The bird definitely fits into the magic here, and I was glad to see it destroyed. At first I thought that Ravenna had destroyed it, but now I am thinking it was Gabriel.

 

I also found Eva's actions at Malin's wedding unforgiveable. Cutting Permony out was aweful, and no one stood up to her. How can they all continue to let her control them? They have seen the damage she has done. Again, Eva seems to win. Again Permony seems to lose.

 

I was sorry to see Elias die because I thought he was finally breaking away from Eva's control. But, when she regained that control and he hurt Noah, something inside Elias died. I think he only held together for a while hoping to atone for his lifetime of letting her get to him. In the end, Elias died a broken, lonely man. His words to Meridia, "save her" (pg. 257) I thought immediately were meant for Permony. What does Elias think Eva will do to her now that he is gone?

 

 


 

Very well stated, DStaff!  Your post conveys my thoughts exactly!  I felt great sympathy and pain for Elias.  My heart went out to him, and I kept hoping that he could forgive himself for Noah's accident.  Elias was a good man who suffered a lot at the hands of Eva during his life time.  Even on his death bed, he worries about Permony.
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Wow! So much happens in these chapters - so many surprises! I must start off by saying I wanted to reach inside the page and pull Eva out and give her a good smack - especially when she was trying to deceive Noah and turn him against Meridia. I equally wanted to grab a hold of Daniel and shake him - HARD! I am so glad that Noah ended up being wiser than both of them and saw through Evil Eva enough to save his mother. Can Daniel truly still be so naïve?

 

It was sad to see Elias' life end the way it did. In a way, he got his revenge on Eva when he shared his visions with Permony. It seemed that he had finally found peace amongst all the chaos that Eva had created in his life. In the end, he was untouchable. I felt for Permony, her being the last one left to absorb her mother's hatred and disdain for life. Eva really dug her claws into Permony when she accused her of having a sexual relationship with her father. I have a feeling, though, that Eva is running out of time and people to abuse.

 

I was saddened by what occurred with Malin. She was so insistent on protecting her unborn child from death, going as far as staying away from her dying father, that I wonder if she didn't already know something bad was going to happen. Eva seemed to know that something would go wrong, even Meridia noticed that when she walked into the room. There is so much death and transition in these chapters. The most disheartening description was that of the ghost mothers who wondered the graveyard where their children are buried.

 

Okay, I must admit to my complete SHOCK over the relationship between Pilar and Gabriel. I never saw that one coming. I am glad, though, that Meridia gave Pilar the money to help Patina escape Evil Eva once and for all. Pilar seemed like such a sympathetic character when we were introduced to her earlier in the novel. Now, I'm not so sure. I am still confused by this entanglement of lovers and the mist. I am hoping to get some clarity by the end of the novel. Maybe I should already know by now, but I don't.

 

There is so much more I could discuss here, but then my post would go on and on and on. I will finish by saying this is a fantastic novel. I actually have withdrawal through the week when I am waiting for new questions to be posted before reading the next set of chapters. I just sit and watch my lonely little book sitting on the table beckoning me, begging me to read it. I had to place other books on top of it so it would leave me alone :smileytongue:

 

I am so excited that I get to finish it now. I will be very sleepy at work tomorrow!

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30/ still not sure about this book.

I am also confused about whether I like this book or not or whether the first look process is the problem.  This is the 2nd flb that I have read, Deliverance Dane being the first.  Due to commitments I was not able to devote the time needed for discussion on Deliverance Dane but I did enjoy the book and would recommend it to anyone.  This time I have been holding to the reading schedule, reading posts and commenting.  I may be making it harder than I need to.

 

As far as the book goes, I find the symbolism and metaphors a bit much to delve through.  This is a different genre of book for me so that may be my problem but  I will continue with the book and the flb process to try to determine what are my issues.

 

Does anyone else have these issues?

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Tarri wrote:

 

I agree entirely with your entire post.  In reference to Pilar, when I found that she was Gabriel's mistress, I wondered why he didn't give her money to pay for her sister's medical treatment.  I was curious as to why Gabriel would allow Pilar to take all of Meridia and Daniel's remaining nest egg, when Gabriel could have easily given the money.  

 

I feel sorry for Pilar.  She lived her life as a second class citizen while the man who "kept" her could have easily afforded to support both families.  


Meridia asked why Pilar didn't jus task Gabriel for the money for the surgery. Pilar made it clear on page 281 that Gabriel only provided her with what she absolutely needed to live. Nothing special & in fact he made sure she lived much worse then Ravenna. Gabriel would not have given her the money if she asked & I highly doubt she ever told Gabriel that she took some of his daughter's dowry because she knew the reaction he would have. She also reveals that it was Gabriel that gave Meridia the envelopes of money & the gold which she helped to secretly leave. This is probably what prompted her to think they could afford to help Patina & knowing Meridia's soft spot for Patina, she took the chance.

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

I ended up finishing this set of chapters early on so i had no other choice but to continue with next set of chapters.

 

I will admit that i have never read of book of this kind before. I really enjoyed it and for all of the questions i have generated, the book did not leave me hanging with unanswered questions. 

I found that the story is what you make of it.  I have come up with my own interpretations.  I somehow envisioned all of the characters as hispanic (Daniel, Pilar, Eva). 

I see the whole black white interpretation as two women seeing the same thing but interpreting things differently. what does it really matter that one saw her wearing white and another black? the point is, is that they saw her.  I'm content with that- though i've never read a story of the genre maybe there is something im missing but thats ok with me. I enjoyed the story none the less.

 

Now to Eva- she really is irritaing and it was disturbing to me all the deceiving, manipulating things she orchestrates. the woman is a witch.

 

Let me say this, which i've said before... Daniel for a moment seemed to be a good husband and father but i still see that he seems to be torn with indecision when it comes to settling disputes between his wife and his mother.

 now that Daniel is married he should side with his wife since she is now supposed to be his other half. I don't understand why daniel would hold such a strong grude against Ravenna- well i mean the story explained it and i accept it- but c'mon... she has never done anything in addition to that one incident in which she shook the broom at him to make him act like that.  So he is a bit immature in that aspect to hold a grudge for that long.

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30/ still not sure about this book.

 Random thoughts.

 

In a fable the events are usually exaggerated to make a point. In a novel they are more subtle. A fable or fairy tale is usually short with only one or two repetitions, maybe to allow the main character to make a mistake and later become a hero in spite of his shortcomings. Or to show that one must keep on trying to succeed. In a novel the pieces of a puzzle gradually form a cohesive picture, through various constructs like feelings, actions, reactions, results. Usually we have a setting which forms the backdrop for actions and the constraints for behaivour. Magical realism adds off-beat quirky observations and unpredictable interpretations  

 

"Of Bees and Mist" combines magical realism, fairy tale, family saga, and the details are often exaggerated - terrible births, really bad family relationships - and repetitive due to lack of subtleness. Add to this the disorientation because neither time nor place give indications of what we are to expect or what cultural rituals the characters are supposed to adhere to. Aside from universal emotions, day to day life is painted in shades of past and present, snippets of east and west, and images made up by the author. 

 

I laugh when I see the contrasts of old and modern, purposely set side by side: "All around the house they hid Samuel's inventory in flour sacks and shoeboxes, in tin oil drums and cookie canisters, ...."  

 

I am fascinated by the storytelling, and though I often shake my head when yet another generality makes me have to make a decision, I carry on. I wonder, is it meant to be real or metaphor, or both? For instance: "Patina had a lump in her heart." Of course, she should have a lump in her heart. She has a sad life. I have a lump in my heart for her. But then Pilar intends to pay for the surgery. "Lump" must be real, I think.   

 

What I really love in the story are the little gems of wordsmithing. Things like: "Pausing for breath, Pilar began scratching the crescent birthmark on her chin. The sharp lines around her mouth shivered like cobwebs in the breeze."

 

All in all it isn't an easy book to read, in spite of which I can't put it down. I admire Erick Setiawan's effort to draw a timeless, cross-cultural picture of complicated family relationships. I hope that Meridia grows into a confident young woman, a difficult task in an atmosphere of bees and mists and marigolds and roses, and trickery and deceipt. I do wonder though, how she learns to do the right things without having role models. How, for instance, does she learn to talk to Samuel, the dealer? She says she learned it from Eva. This means she learned to be "worldly" without being bitchy. Interesting.


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As I have stated in other posts, I have been having a hard time with the story from the get go. Yes, the bees are getting quite tiresome as Eva continues to drone on and on and on. We get it, she doesn't shut up! Any other man but Elias would have put a stop to it one way or another, especially after the Noah fiasco. The mists are just as aggrativating to me as the bees, though less so. It's a long story which repeats itself over and over again and I'm getting a little bored. I thought fables were short to the point stories with a moral. I'm still reading so I may hit the moral eventually, but it's not short. Some readers have compared this story to Life of Pi, which I love and holds a permanent place in my library, so I am still hoping for the best to come.


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You know, I am having more trouble deciding what I think about this book, the further I read. I really love the story of these families and all the relationships and feelings in them. And it goes along for some time really drawing me in when then, something happens that is totally told in a metaphor, or metaphysically and I suddenly have to stop and say ok, now what the heck was that?? Or I have to tell you, I am getting tired of Eva's bad emotions just being referred to as bees now or her actions those of the bees. It was kinda cool at first and I liked that little aha moment of hearing that the bees were actually words coming out of her mouth, in the earlier chapters. But now I would like to see her emotions and actions described in more terms. Rather than just picturing the bees around people now when she is at them, or more bees being more affect, I want to know what is in her mind. This is a very descriptive book but the bees are starting to wear on me as a description of thought or action. I am the one wanting to swat them away now and get back to the story! Also some things, I just don't get! Maybe someone who likes fantasy or supernatural books are loving this but I don't know. I mean, some of these people are dying and being buried. Others just become transparent, brilliant and just poof! Hey, saves on the funeral bills I guess, if everyone is fine in the story that some just do that.

 

I really do like the story, but I really am starting to not like the mystical way its told at times. Some of it is still good, some feel redundant and some just feel like, well I don't know what. But as I said, I do like the storyline enough to keep going with it. I want to see what happens to everyone. Its just getting hard tho. Is anyone having any feelings even similar to me on parts of the book?


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Each new set of circumstances in the novel exposes us to another facet of each of the characters. In Daniel for example, we have now seen him as a lover, as a husband, as a son, as an in-law, and now, as a father. Is he a different character in his different roles? Daniel seems to have trouble juggling all of his roles.. but i think that he fulfills each role as adequately as he can... despite the limitations placed on him by both his and Meridia's family situations. 

 

How about Meridia in each of her roles?

She continues to grow stronger with each page and I love that she has become more of her mother.. I think Ravenna showed us strength, the way that a single mother shows their children strength and that Meridia has not only fulfilled her roles... she has excelled in them.  

 

How are you thoughts about each of the characters shifting? Pilar, Gabriel, Ravenna, and others?

I feel sympathy for Pilar, and my opinion of her stayed consistent from the beginning. I knew that their was sadness behind her eyes and how could their not be? SHe must share her life with a man she only gets to be with part time and stare directly into Meridia's eyes and be filled with deceit. Gabriel and Ravenna both surprised me in this set of chapters, in a pleasant way. I am glad that the truth about their past love and current situation is being explained in more depth and that Setiawan is able to wrap up the many doors opened from the beginning.  

 

Have you re-evaluated the love relationship between Gabriel and Ravenna?

I have... and I feel deeply for the pain that has been endured. I found myself rooting for them while reading these chapters, despite discovering the identity of mist.  

 

How would you describe the end of Elias' life? Is this a man who lived a satisfying life at all? What were his biggest flaws and regrets?

Elias made up for in death what he could not give in life and despite his injuring Noah, I feel as though he was a positive man and that he was just tainted by Eva's swarm. 

How have Eva's tactics changed so far in the novel? Is there a chance we will see a better side of this woman?

I hate her. I hate her. I hate her. Screw the Raid for the bees... just poison her.  

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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30

Daniel is totally different as a son than he is in his other roles.   He listens to his parents - especially his mother - far too much and suffers for it.
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pen21
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Re: Middle Chapters: 20 - 30/ still not sure about this book.

 I agree I enjoyed the last First Look book more.

I like the characters in this book. Erick has involved me to care about the characters with his writing. But the bees annoy me as much as they do the characters in the book.

Eva at this point of the book does not need the bees.She is a strong character.

 I agree that the symbolism and metaphors are a bit much to delve through at this part of the book.

pen21


love2readSZ wrote:

I am also confused about whether I like this book or not or whether the first look process is the problem.  This is the 2nd flb that I have read, Deliverance Dane being the first.  Due to commitments I was not able to devote the time needed for discussion on Deliverance Dane but I did enjoy the book and would recommend it to anyone.  This time I have been holding to the reading schedule, reading posts and commenting.  I may be making it harder than I need to.

 

As far as the book goes, I find the symbolism and metaphors a bit much to delve through.  This is a different genre of book for me so that may be my problem but  I will continue with the book and the flb process to try to determine what are my issues.

 

Does anyone else have these issues?