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05-25-2009 10:35 PM
Meandering thoughts.
How many of you play golf? Those that do, have you ever wondered what's in the mind of the person(s) who designs these golf courses?
(I know, you're going to ask me what this has to do with a Garden Club! Ha!)
I mean, think about it, what kinds of obsticles, as in different kinds of plants, rocks/bolders or trees need to go where, and how many?
(Well, it is just like your own garden, isn't it?)
I've seen a lot of courses, and ours is said to be one of the nicest. It is.
What consitutes nice, other than the grass is kept mowed, and green!?
I wonder if these landscapers think about how big these trees will get when fully matured, or if that enters the equation.
(Do you think about this when planting a bush, shrub, or tree?)
I was also thinking about water hazards...we don't have any on our course, which is probably a good thing, since most of these people, here where I live, would probably drive their cart into it! After they drive their ball...chip/pitch...they're allowed to drive their cart to their ball, ON the fairway.
I'm playing this Wed. with a woman who has maculardegeneration (sp). We're in a competition in the Ladys Golf Club, randomly paired, I've never met her...she gets the ball to the green, and I do the puting. She called today, and asked me if I'd keep my eye on the ball for her, because once she hits it, she may not find it!
I wonder if the landscapers, who put in every obstacle imaginable on our course, thought about all the elderly people wanting to play golf, and whether or not they're able to walk without a cane, or see without a seeing eye dog?
Last year, when I played in this competition, the woman I played with hit everything on the course, except the green! We all kid about this, because all of these ladies have a great sense of humor. At least they're out there trying.... And I still haven't gotten around to actually playing a game of golf! I'm afraid if I drove a ball...I'd throw my back out..I'd be one of those players not being able to walk to their ball!
This is my week to lock-up the golf clubhouse. I usually walk the course (9holes), because it's such a nice, pleasant place to walk in the evening, especially when it's hotter then heck all day. It has to be at least 10 degrees cooler on the course. Yes, our course is watered, green, and kept mowed, and lots of beautiful big pine trees! The bunnies, squirrels, lizards, and whatever else, love to play on the course, too...more obstacles!
Like I said, just meandering thoughts.... Now, it's time to lock-up.
Have a good evening!
Kathy
http://kathys-aliceinwonderland.blogspot.com/
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05-25-2009 11:16 PM
You know that they actually have collage degrees on greens construction. Newer dregree holders learn water maitianence and better ecological footprint softening. And there's a few websites for elder golfing, what courses are easier on the less moble.
But it all depends on when the course was designed and how much the owners were willing to bend.
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05-26-2009 12:02 AM
TiggerBear wrote:You know that they actually have collage degrees on greens construction. Newer dregree holders learn water maitianence and better ecological footprint softening. And there's a few websites for elder golfing, what courses are easier on the less moble.
But it all depends on when the course was designed and how much the owners were willing to bend.
I figured there were classes on this. Recently, I heard someone saying that all the water pipes on our course may need to be replaced, they're over 30 years old...to the tune of close to two hundred grand....I said I wonder if our homeowners wanted to pay for this, because I didn't want it coming out of MY pocket!
Yes, a golf course is beautiful, and a nice amenity, but it's not without cost to the homeowners...and most who live here, don't play golf. Our grounds people are talking about leveling some of the areas, making it easier to walk to the fairways. The fairways are pretty level, but the cart trails are up and down little hills...not always easy to walk to the ball, climbing up and around bolders! The natural terain around here is hill and rock...so I assume they left the rocks when designing this course. We have people who are 90 years old still playing this course...and they're great golfers, I might add. I was half joking about some of the elderly...although a lot have had hip replacements, or knee, or shoulder...but they mend, and go right back out there and play. Something they look forward to, because it's something they love. It keeps them young. I commend them.
I was just thinking about this course needing more flowers around it. I wonder if they would notice if I planted a gardenia bush, here and there? Ha!
http://kathys-aliceinwonderland.blogspot.com/
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05-26-2009 12:17 AM - edited 05-26-2009 12:22 AM
becke_davis wrote:
Golf course groundskeepers want that turf to look really green and lush, so they often add extra nutrients to it to make it green up early. That's not generally recommend for home lawns, but golf courses don't worry about things like low maintenance!
I know, they treat this course like a baby! In the past, they've over-seeded in the winter with an annual grass...to keep it green all year...but it takes a lot man power/hours, not to mention water to maintain this. The talk is whether it's necessary. Just thinking about our water shortage.
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05-26-2009 02:26 AM
KathyS wrote:
becke_davis wrote:
Golf course groundskeepers want that turf to look really green and lush, so they often add extra nutrients to it to make it green up early. That's not generally recommend for home lawns, but golf courses don't worry about things like low maintenance!
I know, they treat this course like a baby! In the past, they've over-seeded in the winter with an annual grass...to keep it green all year...but it takes a lot man power/hours, not to mention water to maintain this. The talk is whether it's necessary. Just thinking about our water shortage.
Message Edited by KathyS on 05-25-2009 09:22 PM
Yeah that's bad water maintenance. A newer course would have to massively lessen their impact nowadays. Water recycling, low water foliage, ect.. possibly even some of that new low water grass specially designed for golf courses; that's some high priced techy stuff though.
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05-26-2009 11:04 AM
We once lived in a house that backed onto a park district playground, pond and a corner of the ninth hole of the park district golf course. We had a fabulous view and it was great for the kids to have the playground so close, but the golf course was a royal pain. When my next-door-neighbor treated his deck, a golfer came clumping across it in golf spikes chasing a ball. The neighbor in the first house next to the golf course had more broken windows than we could count. I once had a creepy couple of golfers (male and female) approach my kids and ask them to pose for pictures (still makes me mad - I chased them off).
The (sort of) funny aspect of it was the drunken midnight golfers who were continually stumbling around our yard in the middle of the night, chasing fluorescent golf balls. They would always make a racket. My husband would open the window and yell, "Give me your address so I can go play golf in your yard and wake up your kids!"
As you can probably tell, he's not a golfer. My father, grandfather and sister all are/were, though.
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05-26-2009 12:44 PM
becke_davis wrote:We once lived in a house that backed onto a park district playground, pond and a corner of the ninth hole of the park district golf course. We had a fabulous view and it was great for the kids to have the playground so close, but the golf course was a royal pain. When my next-door-neighbor treated his deck, a golfer came clumping across it in golf spikes chasing a ball. The neighbor in the first house next to the golf course had more broken windows than we could count. I once had a creepy couple of golfers (male and female) approach my kids and ask them to pose for pictures (still makes me mad - I chased them off).
The (sort of) funny aspect of it was the drunken midnight golfers who were continually stumbling around our yard in the middle of the night, chasing fluorescent golf balls. They would always make a racket. My husband would open the window and yell, "Give me your address so I can go play golf in your yard and wake up your kids!"
As you can probably tell, he's not a golfer. My father, grandfather and sister all are/were, though.
LOL...I can picture all of this! No, I wouldn't want to live next to a golf course! I live a short block away. The people, here, who do live on the edge of it, have all taken precautions. Lots of backyard netting went up, when balls ended up in their living rooms, or whatever room faced the course. But, these people wouldn't trade their home for one that wasn't on the course. It is beautiful to look out over all of this green, especially in the summer when everything around here turns hot and brown!
It's not a public course, and no one plays at night. I'm not saying we don't have a lot of drunken parties in the golf clubhouse, though...LOL We do have some rules!
http://kathys-aliceinwonderland.blogspot.com/
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05-27-2009 04:30 AM
My late husband was a Civil Engineer and he once designed golf courses, which is a specialised field of study linking civil engineering, architecture and horticulture. It is a highly technical 'art' and golf courses which facilitate the disabled would have to be specially built as negotiating 'rough' and various 'hazards' (including water, trees and shrubberies) is part of the game.
You can design your own golf course here
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KathyS wrote:Meandering thoughts.
How many of you play golf? Those that do, have you ever wondered what's in the mind of the person(s) who designs these golf courses?
(I know, you're going to ask me what this has to do with a Garden Club! Ha!)
I mean, think about it, what kinds of obsticles, as in different kinds of plants, rocks/bolders or trees need to go where, and how many?
(Well, it is just like your own garden, isn't it?)
I've seen a lot of courses, and ours is said to be one of the nicest. It is.
What consitutes nice, other than the grass is kept mowed, and green!?
I wonder if these landscapers think about how big these trees will get when fully matured, or if that enters the equation.
(Do you think about this when planting a bush, shrub, or tree?)
I was also thinking about water hazards...we don't have any on our course, which is probably a good thing, since most of these people, here where I live, would probably drive their cart into it! After they drive their ball...chip/pitch...they're allowed to drive their cart to their ball, ON the fairway.
I'm playing this Wed. with a woman who has maculardegeneration (sp). We're in a competition in the Ladys Golf Club, randomly paired, I've never met her...she gets the ball to the green, and I do the puting. She called today, and asked me if I'd keep my eye on the ball for her, because once she hits it, she may not find it!
I wonder if the landscapers, who put in every obstacle imaginable on our course, thought about all the elderly people wanting to play golf, and whether or not they're able to walk without a cane, or see without a seeing eye dog?
Last year, when I played in this competition, the woman I played with hit everything on the course, except the green! We all kid about this, because all of these ladies have a great sense of humor. At least they're out there trying.... And I still haven't gotten around to actually playing a game of golf! I'm afraid if I drove a ball...I'd throw my back out..I'd be one of those players not being able to walk to their ball!
This is my week to lock-up the golf clubhouse. I usually walk the course (9holes), because it's such a nice, pleasant place to walk in the evening, especially when it's hotter then heck all day. It has to be at least 10 degrees cooler on the course. Yes, our course is watered, green, and kept mowed, and lots of beautiful big pine trees! The bunnies, squirrels, lizards, and whatever else, love to play on the course, too...more obstacles!
Like I said, just meandering thoughts.... Now, it's time to lock-up.
Have a good evening!
Kathy
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05-27-2009 07:49 PM
My family, too, is into golf. My daughter has played pro golf on a small tour in Arizona (she was a junior golfer locally, and got a full-ride scholarship to college for being on their golf team). I know the junior golfers, on any long trip, would plan out their "perfect" golf course. I'm sure none of them thought about people with handicaps.
I do know that most of the golf courses here in South California use recycled water. I've often looked at what is planted at the golf courses (annuals) to see what would work in my garden at different times of the year.
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05-27-2009 10:20 PM
becke_davis wrote:
My dad and grandfather are/were the true golf addicts in our family. My dad gave my son a set of clubs when he was 10 (my dad won an extra set) and we gave him lessons at a local course, but he never really got into it.Good thing - it's an expensive hobby!
Not as long as you don't lose your balls! ![]()
Two hours of playing with three ladies this morning (a foursome), I laughed my head off!
One of the gals (the golfer, not the one I played with), is 90! She was telling her partner, the puter, what to do....AND my partner, AND me! We have all been golfers at one time!
She must have been a school teacher!
The woman I played with marked her ball with a BIG red P...for Peg...so she could find it..but I was the one who had to keep an eye on these two gals balls...OMG! I was driving the cart all over the darn fairway, looking for balls!....
.....my partner landed her ball in the drainage ditch, once....the other old gal told her where to put it! And then she, herself, hits her ball into three large bolders, ricocheting all over the place. luckily it didn't hit one of the homes... then bounced into the middle of the fairway! Talk about luck!
Then the gal I played with, got her ball next to a sandy, wet bog in the middle of the fairway, and she was standing in it...sinking! I had parked the cart near her, and told her just to move her body so she wasn't standing in it while hitting the ball...geeze...so she turns around and asks the 90 year old what to do! The old gal looked at her like she was nuts, and told her to stop standing in the mush, and move!
I had then parked my cart on the cart trail, in front of the 90 year old. My partner was driving the ball while I stood along side of our cart.. The 90 yrold was trying to put her brake on, and hit the gas peddle instead! She ran smack dab into the back of our cart! It was a good thing I had put MY brake on, or she'd have sailed it out into fairway! I made sure I stayed in back of her for the rest of the game. And it goes on and on and on...until lunch! I got a glass of wine, and was about to sit down when a hot flash hit me! I ran to the back of the tables and opened one of the windows! Ahhhhhhh, cool air...but the blasted window came off in my hand! Some lady, at one of the tables, asked me why I took the window out....I laughed and told her I had a hot flash! What a morning!
http://kathys-aliceinwonderland.blogspot.com/
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05-28-2009 02:58 AM
becke_davis wrote:
Kathy - when we lived off the park district golf course, all the neighborhood kids would save egg cartons and fill them with golf balls they found. Then they'd sell them to the golfers. They made a mint that way!
Yeah that was a common thing to do durring my childhood. Need pocket money, to little to fight the teenagers over a mowing job, not leaf season yet. Let's go harvest golf balls!
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05-28-2009 10:57 AM
Par4course wrote:
One of my uncles used his old golf balls as a mulch around his flower bed. Interesting look. He lived in Hawaii, though. Here in So. Cal. I think it would just be a hiding place for ants.
I'm dying to tell my dad about the golf-balls-as-mulch idea, but I have a horrible feeling he might try it! My mom would have a fit.
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05-28-2009 11:13 AM
Par4course wrote:
One of my uncles used his old golf balls as a mulch around his flower bed. Interesting look. He lived in Hawaii, though. Here in So. Cal. I think it would just be a hiding place for ants.
I was wondering when the day would come, when I could say, " I've heard everything!"
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05-28-2009 11:28 AM
becke_davis wrote:
Par4course wrote:
One of my uncles used his old golf balls as a mulch around his flower bed. Interesting look. He lived in Hawaii, though. Here in So. Cal. I think it would just be a hiding place for ants.
I'm dying to tell my dad about the golf-balls-as-mulch idea, but I have a horrible feeling he might try it! My mom would have a fit.
I wonder if you're supposed to put them through a limb shredder first, or leave them 'whole'?
http://kathys-aliceinwonderland.blogspot.com/
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