MIDBOOK CHAPTERS 10-20 IRA'S VISITOR (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

[vivico1]

What did you think when Lucy saw Santigo's name in the visitor's log at Ira's home? Why do you think he was there and why did it upset Ira so much he had to be sedated? Did you have any ideas at this point?

[kiakar]

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vivico1 wrote:
What did you think when Lucy saw Santigo's name in the visitor's log at Ira's home? Why do you think he was there and why did it upset Ira so much he had to be sedated? Did you have any ideas at this point?

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Apparently he shocked (Santigo's) Ira to almost insaneness. Did Ira really think that Santigo(Gil) died or is it some other reason he became upset?

[madstitcher5]

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kiakar wrote:

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vivico1 wrote:
What did you think when Lucy saw Santigo's name in the visitor's log at Ira's home? Why do you think he was there and why did it upset Ira so much he had to be sedated? Did you have any ideas at this point?

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Apparently he shocked (Santigo's) Ira to almost insaneness. Did Ira really think that Santigo(Gil) died or is it some other reason he became upset?

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My guess is Santiago threatened him and made the memory of that night come back,as in post traumatic shock. He could have told him he was going to do some harm to Lucy.

[LizzieAnn]

Already being aware from Paul that Santiago was actually Gil Perez, I assumed that Ira either knew more than he had said or that himself was actually involved in the murder. I thought that Gil wanted revenge on Ira or something more from Ira. I figured Ira got so upset because the past that he had buried had come back. It's already been made clear that emotionally Ira is not stable.

[Stephanie]

Liz,

I thought that Ira might have been involved in the murders as well, and that he was trying to cover something up. I couldn't come up with any kind of a motive though.

[Wrighty]

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Stephanie wrote:
Liz,

I thought that Ira might have been involved in the murders as well, and that he was trying to cover something up. I couldn't come up with any kind of a motive though.

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That's how I felt too. I had a hard time figuring out Ira's real place in things for a while.

[kiakar]

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Stephanie wrote:
Liz,

I thought that Ira might have been involved in the murders as well, and that he was trying to cover something up. I couldn't come up with any kind of a motive though.

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Hey Stephanie: I never thought of that! Now that is a good possibility! Ira seemed alittle off the wall even before this happened. The murders I mean!

[KathyS]

I couldn't come up with any reason why this character shows up, after all these years. Why now? Ira only wants to live in the 60's, and whatever Gil's motives are for seeing Ira, it obviously brought him either into the present time, or a time for which Ira couldn't handle.

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vivico1 wrote:
What did you think when Lucy saw Santigo's name in the visitor's log at Ira's home? Why do you think he was there and why did it upset Ira so much he had to be sedated? Did you have any ideas at this point?

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[Andeka]

I like that Ira's stuck in the 60's... I think I might actually know him?!?

[KathyS]

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Andeka wrote:
I like that Ira's stuck in the 60's... I think I might actually know him?!?

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I think I'll pass on this one! My hips are still displaced!

[cindersue]

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Andeka wrote:
I like that Ira's stuck in the 60's... I think I might actually know him?!?

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I think he liked being stuck there. He appeared to like receiving those shots. LOL The legal way. He reminds me, too, of many friends back then. Right down to the yellow bug!

[vivico1]

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cindersue wrote:

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Andeka wrote:
I like that Ira's stuck in the 60's... I think I might actually know him?!?

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I think he liked being stuck there. He appeared to like receiving those shots. LOL The legal way. He reminds me, too, of many friends back then. Right down to the yellow bug!

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I went to a play this last friday with a girlfriend of 25 years and it was a coming of age thing about 3 girls who go to high school together in the sixties, then college, then later in their lives. It was a great bonding play for girlfriends to see and when the lights went up, there were men there and I thought, these are all IRAS!!! LOL!! almost the only men there were men who ARE stuck in the 60s still lol, hippie style clothes, long hair tied back in a pony tail and scruffy beards and all very very gray LOL! I think I was at a play this week with IRA!

[KathyS]

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vivico1 wrote:

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cindersue wrote:

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Andeka wrote:
I like that Ira's stuck in the 60's... I think I might actually know him?!?

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I think he liked being stuck there. He appeared to like receiving those shots. LOL The legal way. He reminds me, too, of many friends back then. Right down to the yellow bug!

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I went to a play this last friday with a girlfriend of 25 years and it was a coming of age thing about 3 girls who go to high school together in the sixties, then college, then later in their lives. It was a great bonding play for girlfriends to see and when the lights went up, there were men there and I thought, these are all IRAS!!! LOL!! almost the only men there were men who ARE stuck in the 60s still lol, hippie style clothes, long hair tied back in a pony tail and scruffy beards and all very very gray LOL! I think I was at a play this week with IRA!

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They were probably all artists/potters! LOL

[cindersue]

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KathyS wrote:

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vivico1 wrote:

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cindersue wrote:

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Andeka wrote:
... almost the only men there were men who ARE stuck in the 60s still lol, hippie style clothes, long hair tied back in a pony tail and scruffy beards and all very very gray LOL! I think I was at a play this week with IRA!

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They were probably all artists/potters! LOL

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They still look good, don't they? LOL I was so happy when bell bottoms came back in style! ROFL

[vivico1]

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cindersue wrote:

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vivico1 wrote:

... almost the only men there were men who ARE stuck in the 60s still lol, hippie style clothes, long hair tied back in a pony tail and scruffy beards and all very very gray LOL! I think I was at a play this week with IRA!

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They still look good, don't they? LOL I was so happy when bell bottoms came back in style! ROFL

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NOOOOOOOOOO, they looked like old nasty hippies!! Still looked good, ewww, about as good as a 65-68 year old woman in a mini skirt and haltertop that may be now hanging around her waist! LOL!

[cindersue]

They still look good, don't they? LOL I was so happy when bell bottoms came back in style! ROFL

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NOOOOOOOOOO, they looked like old nasty hippies!! Still looked good, ewww, about as good as a 65-68 year old woman in a mini skirt and haltertop that may be now hanging around her waist! LOL!

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LMAO ... know what we wore for awhile in high school? mini skirts, knee socks and desert boots. Now that's style! hehehehe

[vivico1]

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cindersue wrote:
They still look good, don't they? LOL I was so happy when bell bottoms came back in style! ROFL

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NOOOOOOOOOO, they looked like old nasty hippies!! Still looked good, ewww, about as good as a 65-68 year old woman in a mini skirt and haltertop that may be now hanging around her waist! LOL!

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LMAO ... know what we wore for awhile in high school? mini skirts, knee socks and desert boots. Now that's style! hehehehe

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You;re older than I am arent you hehehe. lol,. What a difference just a couple of years make. BUT, i never ever found the hippie look attractive, especially on men. If I wanted to date someone with longggggg flowing hair, i would date a girl! LOL. I was a jeans and tshirt girl tho. My friend and I were cracking up tho when we saw these guys tho, we just werent expecting it i guess. I guess there are biker bars and old hippie plays lol lol. (I think I just came up with the title there for a country western song "Biker Bars and Old Hippie Plays" hehe)

Message Edited by vivico1 on 05-09-200711:08 PM

[Wrighty]

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vivico1 wrote:

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NOOOOOOOOOO, they looked like old nasty hippies!! Still looked good, ewww, about as good as a 65-68 year old woman in a mini skirt and haltertop that may be now hanging around her waist! LOL!

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Oh ICK! Thanks for the visual Viv! I think I saw her today anyway. It burned my retinas. But now that spring is here they're coming out of the woodwork.
I saw Ira too. Some guy was cruising in an old convertible (no VW), long gray hair and beard flowing in the wind with a red bandana tied on his head Willie Nelson style.

[vivico1]

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Wrighty wrote:

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vivico1 wrote:

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NOOOOOOOOOO, they looked like old nasty hippies!! Still looked good, ewww, about as good as a 65-68 year old woman in a mini skirt and haltertop that may be now hanging around her waist! LOL!

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Oh ICK! Thanks for the visual Viv! I think I saw her today anyway. It burned my retinas. But now that spring is here they're coming out of the woodwork.
I saw Ira too. Some guy was cruising in an old convertible (no VW), long gray hair and beard flowing in the wind with a red bandana tied on his head Willie Nelson style.

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Willie Nelson was born looking like that, i saw the picture.

[kiakar]

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vivico1 wrote:

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Wrighty wrote:

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vivico1 wrote:

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NOOOOOOOOOO, they looked like old nasty hippies!! Still looked good, ewww, about as good as a 65-68 year old woman in a mini skirt and haltertop that may be now hanging around her waist! LOL!

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Oh ICK! Thanks for the visual Viv! I think I saw her today anyway. It burned my retinas. But now that spring is here they're coming out of the woodwork.
I saw Ira too. Some guy was cruising in an old convertible (no VW), long gray hair and beard flowing in the wind with a red bandana tied on his head Willie Nelson style.

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Willie Nelson was born looking like that, i saw the picture.

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Whoow!!! And I use to be in love with Willie and still am when he sings "On the road again."