20 Questions

[Psychee]

10.  Did Harry encounter it in the sixth book?

11.  Did Harry encounter it in more than one book?

[Jules934]

1  No, it is not magical.

2  No, Harry never owns one.

3  No, we do not see it in the first book.

4  No, it is not living.

5  Yes, this thing is tangible. 

6  No, it is not in the seventh book.

7  Yes, Harry encounters it.

8  Yes, it is bigger than a shoe bos.

9  No, it is not edible.

10.  No, Harry did not encounter it in the sixth book.

11.  No Harry did not encounter it in more than one book.   The "encounter" only happens in that book, but I think the thing is mentioned, just in passing, in at least one other book. 

[Psychee]

12.  Is it the Magical Brethren statue?

[agnijay]

13. Can it be found in London? (the nonmagical part)

[Jules934]

1  No, it is not magical.

2  No, Harry never owns one.

3  No, we do not see it in the first book.

4  No, it is not living.

5  Yes, this thing is tangible. 

6  No, it is not in the seventh book.

7  Yes, Harry encounters it.

8  Yes, it is bigger than a shoe bos.

9  No, it is not edible.

10.  No, Harry did not encounter it in the sixth book.

11.  No Harry did not encounter it in more than one book.   The "encounter" only happens in that book, but I think the thing is mentioned, just in passing, in at least one other book. 

12.  No, it is not the Magical Brethren statue.

13  No, it cannot be found in London.

[agnijay]

14. Is it in either the second or third book?

[Jules934]

1  No, it is not magical.

2  No, Harry never owns one.

3  No, we do not see it in the first book.

4  No, it is not living.

5  Yes, this thing is tangible. 

6  No, it is not in the seventh book.

7  Yes, Harry encounters it.

8  Yes, it is bigger than a shoe bos.

9  No, it is not edible.

10.  No, Harry did not encounter it in the sixth book.

11.  No Harry did not encounter it in more than one book.   The "encounter" only happens in that book, but I think the thing is mentioned, just in passing, in at least one other book. 

12.  No, it is not the Magical Brethren statue.

13  No, it cannot be found in London.

1   No, it is not magical.

2   No, Harry never owns one.

3   No, we do not see it in the first book.

4   No, it is not living.

5   Yes, this thing is tangible. 

6   No, it is not in the seventh book.

7   Yes, Harry encounters it.

8   Yes, it is bigger than a shoe bos.

9   No, it is not edible.

10 No, Harry did not encounter it in the sixth book.

11 No Harry did not encounter it in more than one book.   The "encounter" only happens in that book, but I think the thing is mentioned, just in passing, in at least one other book. 

12 No, it is not the Magical Brethren statue.

13 No, it cannot be found in London.

14 Yes, It is in either the 2nd or 3rd book.

[Psychee]

15.  Is it in Hogwarts Castle?

[agnijay]

16. Is it the Ford Angela?

[Jules934]

1   No, it is not magical.

2   No, Harry never owns one.

3   No, we do not see it in the first book.

4   No, it is not living.

5   Yes, this thing is tangible. 

6   No, it is not in the seventh book.

7   Yes, Harry encounters it.

8   Yes, it is bigger than a shoe bos.

9   No, it is not edible.

10 No, Harry did not encounter it in the sixth book.

11 No Harry did not encounter it in more than one book.   The "encounter" only happens in that book, but I think the thing is mentioned, just in passing, in at least one other book. 

12 No, it is not the Magical Brethren statue.

13 No, it cannot be found in London.

14 Yes, it is in either the 2nd or 3rd book

15 Yes, it is in Hogwarts Castle.

16 No, it is not the Ford Angela.

[Psychee]

17.  Is it Moaning Myrtle's bathroom?

18.  Is it a statue of some kind?

[Jules934]

1   No, it is not magical.

2   No, Harry never owns one.

3   No, we do not see it in the first book.

4   No, it is not living.

5   Yes, this thing is tangible. 

6   No, it is not in the seventh book.

7   Yes, Harry encounters it.

8   Yes, it is bigger than a shoe bos.

9   No, it is not edible.

10 No, Harry did not encounter it in the sixth book.

11 No Harry did not encounter it in more than one book.   The "encounter" only happens in that book, but I think the thing is mentioned, just in passing, in at least one other book. 

12 No, it is not the Magical Brethren statue.

13 No, it cannot be found in London.

14 Yes, it is in either the 2nd or 3rd book

15 Yes, it is in Hogwarts Castle.

16 No, it is not the Ford Angela.

17 No, it is not Moaning Myrtle's bathroom.

18 No, it is not a statue of some kind.

[Psychee]

19.  Is it built in to the castle, like a room?

[Jules934]

1   No, it is not magical.

2   No, Harry never owns one.

3   No, we do not see it in the first book.

4   No, it is not living.

5   Yes, this thing is tangible. 

6   No, it is not in the seventh book.

7   Yes, Harry encounters it.

8   Yes, it is bigger than a shoe bos.

9   No, it is not edible.

10 No, Harry did not encounter it in the sixth book.

11 No Harry did not encounter it in more than one book.   The "encounter" only happens in that book, but I think the thing is mentioned, just in passing, in at least one other book. 

12 No, it is not the Magical Brethren statue.

13 No, it cannot be found in London.

14 Yes, it is in either the 2nd or 3rd book

15 Yes, it is in Hogwarts Castle.

16 No, it is not the Ford Angela.

17 No, it is not Moaning Myrtle's bathroom.

18 No, it is not a statue of some kind.

19 No, it is not built in to the castle, like a room.

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[agnijay]

I have a quick question...

what exactly qualifies as magical? Like, for the last question I didn't think Malfoy Manor, because I thought it wouldn't be considered nonmagical.

[Jules934]

IMHO, Someone/thing is magical if it has magical powers of its own.  Not powers that a magi gave it, mind you.  So, if Hogwarts Castle has the intrinsic power (which I guess would mean that it "has a brain") to enable the Room of Requirement, then the castle would be magical.  But if a thing was enchanted  by the power of a magi, then the thing would not be magical.  So, Riddle's Diary was not magical because the power that enchanted it was within Riddle's brain. -- Hence Mr Weasley's warning to Ginny.

It may even be that no "thing" is magical,

But that's just my HO.  what do you think, agnijay?

[_K3LS3Y_]

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agnijay wrote:

I have a quick question...

what exactly qualifies as magical? Like, for the last question I didn't think Malfoy Manor, because I thought it wouldn't be considered nonmagical.

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I say that magical items be like something that was produced by magic or made magical. Like the Ford Angela I would say is magical b.c it was made magical. For places I'd say that the place is magical if the whole family or the whole group of people living there are magic folks. Like The Burrow-magical, Malfoy Manor-magical, Harry's house(6 Privet Drive)-nonmagical.

anyone agree or disagree?

[TiggerBear]

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_K3LS3Y_ wrote:

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agnijay wrote:

I have a quick question...

what exactly qualifies as magical? Like, for the last question I didn't think Malfoy Manor, because I thought it wouldn't be considered nonmagical.

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I say that magical items be like something that was produced by magic or made magical. Like the Ford Angela I would say is magical b.c it was made magical. For places I'd say that the place is magical if the whole family or the whole group of people living there are magic folks. Like The Burrow-magical, Malfoy Manor-magical, Harry's house(6 Privet Drive)-nonmagical.

anyone agree or disagree?

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Agree.

Something about a wizard house over several years, the high use of magic, makes the house have it's own magic feel. Hogwarts has almost become a creature, those stairs, moving rooms, ect.. it has it's own personality.

If you fill a car with enough magic, you get the Ford Angela creature- it's eats!

[Psychee]

Yes, I had ruled out Malfoy Manor when it was said that the place was not magical.  We know that it had a lot of magical properties -- like the gate entrance -- and we could assume that it had many other special enchantments on it, as would be true of any wizarding residence, except Privet Drive which was owned by Muggles in spite of the fact that Harry lived there.

So, to be consistent with that idea, perhaps we should say that anything created by magic is magical, even if it is just a chintz chair that was made by Dumbledore...?  And any normal object that has had enhancing spells on it, like the Ford Anglia, would also be magical?

Jules, with that new definition in mind, would you like to change your answer to our magical question?

[Jules934]

I was planning on changing my definition of "magical", but not changing my reply.  .  

 Without word from JKR, I guess I just don't know what "magical" would mean in the Potterverse.  I guess I'd modify my "innate" definition to say that if something has been given powers, it is magical.  But I'm not sure that something created by magic and not given any power would be magical.

So, I will say that, in the context in which we see the object in question, it exhibits no magical behavior, neither innate nor enchanted.  But, given it's location, I have no doubt that many magical things have been within it.