06-13-2007 07:59 PM
Okay, I think that Harry might be one of the last horcruxes. Because the proficy they said not one can live while the other survive. I also think that R.A.B is Regulus Black. And that Sirius is still alive. Because no one knows where things go when they go behind the curtain.
06-14-2007 09:14 AM
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06-14-2007 10:32 AM
1-Dumbledore is dead- it was not staged, or faked. He really died. We do however believe Harry is going to get to see/interact with him still.....via the Pennsive,
we are fairly certain that Dumbledore will have left a version of himself there that harry will be able to interact with (up to a point) and that is how he is going to find out a few vital points of information in the upcoming book. I am suspecting that point to be the naming of what Dumbledore suspects to be the Ravenclaw hoarcrux since there has been no discussion in the books whatso ever about that item and what it might be and where it might reside.
2-Snape is innocent...not necessarily likeable, but innocent. The reason we believe this to be true is "the unbreakable oath" Rowling would not have introduced it in the last one if it were not going to prove an important plot tool I am convinced, and the only way that Dumbledore could have unshaking implicit trust in Snape is if he had made him tak an unbreakable oath. One of the lessons Harry is going to have to learn the hard way is that however much he may not like Severus does not necessarily make him evil.
3-Potential deaths in this novel: I am betting on one if not two of the weasly clan biting the big one. Either Mr or Mrs weasly may die, which would really be hitting Harry hard since they are his pseudo-surrogate parents now, but the one i am pretty sure of is Percy. My guess is that he goes out in a blaze of glory trying to attone for his previous bad acts in support of an erroneous ministry of magic. Neville may also be killed, but if so its going to be in the process of giving Belatrix Lestrange her comeuppance
4-The Gryffindore Hoarcrux could be Harry, but I am more and more thinking it is the Sorting hat. Harry is assuming that its the Sword that he used on the Basalisk, but they also made a point of mentioning that the Sorting hat belonged to Godrick Gryffindore.....and not only that its been trying desperately in its opening speeches to convey information to tha masses that they are just not getting.....so my money is on the sorting hat. The hat also is a better idea because it would be better protected since not only is it an artifact of Godrick Gryffindore's but it is also a part of Hogwarts tradition now, so destroying or damaging it would also risk altering Hogwarts tradition forever.
5-There is somethign bad in the Potter Family History that everyone has been keeping from Harry. At first it bothered me that HArry was never introduced to any of his Potter relations.....Grandparents, cousins, aunts uncles etc, not to mention it always mystified me that a boy so hell bent on discovering his heritage and past studiously ignored asking questions about his Potter connections and just blithly accepted that the Dursleys were all he had left. But more importantly, NO ONE has even made hte slightest mention of his potter family relations and their accomplishments, proclivities, foibles or flaws but they raphsodize Lily and James....Sirius once mentions that he went to the Potter house on holidays to escape his own home....but Harry doesn't follow up with any questions abotu what his Grandparents were like or if there might be any extended family he could come into contact with. AND NO ONE OFFERS THE INFOR EITHER which makes me think there is a reason WHY they are not talking about his Potter antecedents. Harry is going to have to learn that alot of his preconcieved notions of who is who and what they are about are not based on reality in this coming book...I believe.
I need coffee now...its early here and I have had no caffine.
I welcome any comments or further ideas.
06-14-2007 12:20 PM
Someone suggested that Neville will sacrifice himself to either save Harry or kill Voldemort or something. Like, in a final burst of courage he'll give all of his power/energy to Harry to fuel a spell or something. I guess we'll just have to find out!!!!
06-14-2007 12:34 PM
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06-14-2007 12:44 PM
Also, remember that at first V was not going to kill Lily. He only did so when she gave her life to protect Harry. Maybe it was this extra death that made Harry into a Horcrux with the AK curse or something. He is somehow still protected from V though because of his mother's death. Also JKR said it will be very important that "Harry has his mother's eyes." I think this has something to do with it . . .
However, Voldemort DOES NOT KNOW that Harry is a Horcrux. He did not mean to make him one. He meant to make his last one at Godric's Hollow when he killed Lily and James, and somehow he did as he was killed himself.
The part that convinced me though, was in Chamber of Secrets when Dumbledore and Harry are talking about Harry's curse scar and how Harry feels what V feels.
Harry says, "You mean Voldemort put a little bit of himself into me?!"
and Dumbledore replies, "Yes, Harry, I believe he did. Not something he meant to do, I'm sure." (those are almost the exact words, but not quite because I'm quoting it from memory)
D thinks Harry is a Horcrux also, but, I believe, did not want to tell Harry because he would be absolutely horrified. Somehow, Harry will have to kill the part of Voldemort's soul that is within his body. That will be difficult.
Besides, JKR keeps emphasizing Harry's inward connection w/ Voldemort. They have the same wand, Harry almost went to Slytherin, etc. I'm sure there are lots more that I'm too lazy to look up. It's Harry's personal characteristics and morsl strength that is different, though, which makes me think there's just a little part of V's soul in Harry that is separate from his.
Ok, so I'm not sure how well I verbalized this . . . but like I said before I am almost completely positive that Harry is a Horcrux, but Voldemort doesn't know.
I still hate Snape. I'm having a hard time believing that's he's good, but it does kinda look like it. In the other theory about how Mcgonagall is a Death Eater, I'm pretty sure that's wrong. The 3rd Death Eater that V mentioned in Goblet of Fire, his most loyal one who brought Harry to Voldemort . . . that is Barty Crouch Jr. The other 2 that aren't there are Snape and Karkaroff. There are no others.
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06-14-2007 02:07 PM
2. Dumbledore is dead. He couldn't be alive still. However, Harry can still meet his brother, who works at the Hog's Head. I also don't see why Harry couldn't still have lessons and discussions with Dumbledore's painting in the Headmaster's office. It seems like all of the paintings of the Headmasters maintain their personality and knowledge. Dumbledore is not completely lost.
3. Snape isn't all bad. One of the last things he yells at Harry as he's running away is to "keep your mind closed" or something like that. Snape was still trying to teach Harry. Why would he be teaching Harry if he wanted to destroy him? I think Snape will die, though. He should die in order to save Harry or kill Voldemort.
4. Harry obviously can't kill Voldemort by using one of the Unforgiveable Curses. All his attempts at using them have failed, and even Snape told him he couldn't use him (Snape's still teaching). So, Harry has to find another way of 'vanquishing' the Dark Lord. Perhaps . . . . . it'll be through the curtain? Who knows. I've heard a theory that perhaps Voldemort would be kissed by a dementor. That would work too. I can't wait to find out how he's vanquished!
06-14-2007 02:48 PM
1. I think Harry is a horcrux, I'm not sure however that he's gonna die. he might , but I think it's much more likely that he has to do something to get rid of his scar.
2.Snape was sooooo obviously under Dumbledore's orders. It's pretty obviouse because Dumbledore said , "Severus... please..." If you were beging for your life you would articulate more, even if you were weak He was refering to a conversation they previously had, I'm sure of it.
3.OK , I love Draco, there's nothing I can do about it. So here are my theories about him. He already confesed he was only doing it for his family so the thing is that Lucious and Narcissa will be killed by Voldemort. So then in the middle of the battle Draco will take the Avada Kedavra for Harry giving Harry time to Hit Voldemort without their wands connecting. He will go down like a hero.
(I think if he was really evil JK wouldn't have allowed someone like Tom Felton to be cast in that part. She must have known people will take a liking to him.
3. Ginny's love will save Harry. No doubt. Love is his greatest weapon...duh.
4. And finally , Ron and Hermione WILL get together. You should check JK's website for a hint about their future children.
but you know... anything could happen
06-14-2007 03:02 PM
*Speaking of Neville I would really like to see him kill Bellatrix in the final book. It would only be right.
* My prediction as one of the people that die, is Professor Snape, although there are little clues here and there in regards to his allegiance for good or bad. I think it will only finally be revealed in his death.
* Yeah, I think Harry is a Horcrux he might not realize it until his face off with Voldermort,thats going to be tricky
* Aunt Petunia is finally going to prove her worth, and give Harry some information he can actually use.
* Draco Malfoy is going to seek out Harry for help
In a perfect world the book ends with Harry becoming the new headmaster at Hogwarts and his friends teachers. But, I don't think its going to end that way.
If it does end with Harry's death there is no way I am going to buy all the books in the series. Stephen King killed off his main character in a series after making his readers wait for 7 years for the final book. I haven't picked up one of his books since. I guess there authors think its some kind of "poetic justice" killing of the main character, I think its just plain ludicrous ! How can you own a book series when you know the main character is going to die in the end?!
06-14-2007 03:07 PM
As far as Dumbledore's death... if he really is dead. There are the paintings of all the past headmasters in the headmasters office at Hogwarts that interact with the current headmaster. SO, if Harry could somehow get into the headmasters office he could communicate with Dumbledore through the paintings. The pennsive is a good guess also.
06-14-2007 03:10 PM
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06-14-2007 04:02 PM
I think that Harry is definitely a horcrux. It is quite a good possibility. Because when Voldemort attempted to kill Harry, he lost a part of himself. think about it.
I agree this has to be true because Dumbeldore TOLD Harry that Voldemort had given a peice of himself to Harry. That is how he "marked him as equal" and gave hime the ability to speak Parseltongue, ect. Harry was also informed by Dumbledore that Voldemort had intended to create the final Horcrux from Harry's murder. So what likely happened is that the spell went wrong because harry couldn't be killed he became the Horcrux.