Tiny questions that don't matter but I'm asking anyway

[summer-sky]

it cant be healed because it was blasted off by dark magic

obviously snape was able to fix up draco because it was his spell in the first place. like snape was the one who discovered it. and so forth he knew the countercurse.

unlike the rest of the people who are inexperienced with dealing with dark magic

[Psychee]

If I recall, Lupin believed from the beginning that Snape had used the Sectum Sempra curse on the ear.  Then someone said that it couldn't be fixed because of the curse.   Since we know that Snape could have fixed it, I think the bottom line is that no one else in the group knew how.    Remember Dumbledore insisting that Snape was the only person at Hogwarts who could heal wounds inflicted by the Dark Arts?  If the healer at Hogwarts couldn't do it, Mrs. Weasley wouldn't be able to.  

[Mollywobbles]

A very logical reply, O Distinguished Correspondent! 

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Psychee wrote:
If I recall, Lupin believed from the beginning that Snape had used the Sectum Sempra curse on the ear.  Then someone said that it couldn't be fixed because of the curse.   Since we know that Snape could have fixed it, I think the bottom line is that no one else in the group knew how.    Remember Dumbledore insisting that Snape was the only person at Hogwarts who could heal wounds inflicted by the Dark Arts?  If the healer at Hogwarts couldn't do it, Mrs. Weasley wouldn't be able to.  

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[Psychee]

lol... you can stop bowing at any time... like NOW.  Please!!! 

[Mollywobbles]

No way, I genuflect in your presence! Here, have another laurel,the title makes you sound like Edward R. Murrow. 

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Psychee wrote:

lol... you can stop bowing at any time... like NOW.  Please!!! 

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[Lalo]

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Psychee wrote:
If I recall, Lupin believed from the beginning that Snape had used the Sectum Sempra curse on the ear.  Then someone said that it couldn't be fixed because of the curse.   Since we know that Snape could have fixed it, I think the bottom line is that no one else in the group knew how.    Remember Dumbledore insisting that Snape was the only person at Hogwarts who could heal wounds inflicted by the Dark Arts?  If the healer at Hogwarts couldn't do it, Mrs. Weasley wouldn't be able to.  

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Can I have some clarification please? I was under the impression that all Mrs W couldnt do was grow George's ear back, because it was cursed off, but she was able to stop the bleeding. Are we saying Snape could have regrown the ear?

[Psychee]

Good question, Lalo!  Mollywobbles's question included the phrase "assuming they could find the ear", so I was responding to that.

But, I do think that Snape could have regrown the ear through his own special magic to erase his own dark spell's aftereffects.  Re-growing body parts wasn't normally a big deal, it just didn't apparently work when the part needing re-growing had been severed by Dark Magic.

Mind you, this is just my guess!

[Psychee]

"Hello, world.  THIS is Edward Psychee Murrow, speaking to you from Hogwart's Academy of Witchcraft and Wizardry, where Herr Voldemort has not yet arrived for what promises to be a magical showdown...." 

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Mollywobbles wrote:

No way, I genuflect in your presence! Here, have another laurel,the title makes you sound like Edward R. Murrow. 

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[Jules934]

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Mollywobbles wrote:

George's Ear

..........I think somebody says that there is no magical way to heal or restore the[George's] ear.  Is this because the ear  was blasted off and was lost in the flight?  In other words, if they had located the severed ear (which I realize was simply not possible under the circumstances) would they have been able to magically re-attach it? 

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Well, Moody lost a chunk out of his nose and a foot/leg.  So, apparently, magic cannot repair all damage, esp missing parts.  But if they'd had the ear, I think the healers at St Mungo's could have.  I just hope they'd get it on straight.

PS Did you notice that in goF, at the World Cup riot, Bill sustained a deep cut to his arm.  One that bled freely?  Sounds to me like Snape was there too.  But of course he could have done much more damage than a cut.

[Psychee]

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Jules934 wrote, in part:

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PS Did you notice that in goF, at the World Cup riot, Bill sustained a deep cut to his arm.  One that bled freely?  Sounds to me like Snape was there too.  But of course he could have done much more damage than a cut.

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No, Jules, Snape would not have had any reason to hurt Bill at that point in the story.  Remember, he was actually a good guy.  That was Malfoy and his minions.

Snape was only fighting at 7 Harry battle to keep up apearances for Voldemort while he was being a spy.   And although he did sever George's ear, he did not mean to do so. 

[Jules934]

I really do think it was Snape, if for no other reason than we don't see a similar curse from anyone else (except Harry) -- and he did give Harry a taste of it too.

With so many of the DEs there, I think he was there too, team bonding, keeping up appearances, spying.  Also, in December, we learn that the Dark Marks had been growing darker for months.  Perhaps they had started acting up as soon as Voldemort got into the country.  That would have made Snape even more apt to keep close contact with the DEs.  And, with them all running amok, he could hardly have failed to "join in the fun" without raising suspicion. 

Whether he was aiming at Bill or someone else, or just cursing at random, I don't know.  Certainly he was a "White Hat", but he had to keep the DEs thinking he was on their side. 

[Psychee]

The people who started the ruckus at the Quidditch playoffs, though, had no idea at all that Voldemort was back.    That wasn't revealed to them until about eight months later.  It makes no sense for them to ask Snape to join in, nor would he.  He had a respectable job not worth risking and he learned his lesson about hurting Muggles from Lily.

I think there were probably lots of ways to cut people, and if Lupin knew about the Sectum Sempra spell by name, lots of other people would know it, too.  After all, once you know the incantation, you are well on the way of doing it, aren't you?

[Jules934]

Those people were the Death Eaters who had been cleared, Lucius Malfoy among them.   True, they didn't know that Voldemort was on his way back; they may have behaved better if they had known he was just biding his time until the Tri-Wizard Cup was over.  

I see no reason for Snape not to be there; I'm sure Dumbledore approved.  Malfoy was, and they were on friendly terms.  Snape had to keep up appearances.  He was posing as a member of the clan; saying home from the party would be suspicious.  Plus, it was a good spy-opp. 

Once there he would have had to participate whole heartedly in the "activities" or be thought a muggle lover.  Then things got out of hand.  Perhaps the firewiskey was flowing too freely.  Perhaps he was just setting off spells without intending to injure anyone.  Perhaps injuring a blood trator was a good way to reinforce his position. 

[blinkgirl89]

ok new question or a thought, really.

i have been reading the HBP this past week and i was think about something, won't Snape have known that Sirius wasn't a Death Eater? i mean in POA, Sirius tells Wormtail that the Death Eaters in Azkaban said things in their sleep and they all knew that Voldy had gone to the Potter's home on his information. so if the Death Eater knew, why won't Snape know that Wormtail was the spy and not Sirius?

and this about the Death Eaters in on page 368 of POA

[Psychee]

I guess our differences in opinion on this have to do with what role we think Snape took during the quiet years between the wars.

I imagined him holding a respectable job at Hogwarts, not ever doing anything to jeopardize that, and Malfoy respecting his need to do that.

I also imagined the friendship between Snape and Malfoy being cemented by the fact that Snape never gave evidence against Malfoy, allowing him to be free after the war.  Snape also protected Draco, making excuses for him, as Head of Slytherin.  I didn't see the need for Snape to "keep up appearances" as a DeathEater.

I did not see anything to learn as a spy at the Quidditch match.  He already knew who the bad guys were and how they operated.

I saw his dual spy role re-starting only when he sensed that Voldemort was coming back.  

But you imagine his "quiet years" role as a more active one and even though it is not the view I had, I think there is room between the lines of text to allow that impression;  it is a reasonable one.

Can we agree to disagree?

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Jules934 wrote:

Those people were the Death Eaters who had been cleared, Lucius Malfoy among them.   True, they didn't know that Voldemort was on his way back; they may have behaved better if they had known he was just biding his time until the Tri-Wizard Cup was over.  

I see no reason for Snape not to be there; I'm sure Dumbledore approved.  Malfoy was, and they were on friendly terms.  Snape had to keep up appearances.  He was posing as a member of the clan; saying home from the party would be suspicious.  Plus, it was a good spy-opp. 

Once there he would have had to participate whole heartedly in the "activities" or be thought a muggle lover.  Then things got out of hand.  Perhaps the firewiskey was flowing too freely.  Perhaps he was just setting off spells without intending to injure anyone.  Perhaps injuring a blood trator was a good way to reinforce his position. 

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[Psychee]

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blinkgirl89 wrote:

ok new question or a thought, really.

i have been reading the HBP this past week and i was think about something, won't Snape have known that Sirius wasn't a Death Eater? i mean in POA, Sirius tells Wormtail that the Death Eaters in Azkaban said things in their sleep and they all knew that Voldy had gone to the Potter's home on his information. so if the Death Eater knew, why won't Snape know that Wormtail was the spy and not Sirius?

and this about the Death Eaters in on page 368 of POA

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Good question, Blinkgirl. 

Back before book 7 came out, when we were trying to figure out if Snape was good or bad,  one argument in favor of Snape being bad was the one you just brought up. 

But now that DH has come out, I think the argument would go like this:

1.  As a DeathEater, Snape may or may not have known that Wormtail was a DeathEater.

But he could not have known that Wormtail was the SecretKeeper guarding Lily's safety, as if he had known, he would have killed Wormtail himself.

2.  Dumbledore believed that Sirius was the SecretKeeper and Snape trusted Dumbledore.  He also hated Sirius enough from his school years that when Lupin tried to tell him that this was not the truth, Snape simply refused to listen.  He probably enjoyed the delicious righteousness of believing that someone he hated had arranged to have the woman he loved killed.

3.  Just because Snape never encountered Sirius as another DeathEater does not mean that Sirius wasn't secretly in league with Voldemort.  Voldy did not always let the minions on his left hand know what the minions on his right hand were doing.

4.  Voldemort probably kept the whole Wormtail involvement secret from Snape because he knew that Snape was protective of Lily.

Does that make sense?

[Lalo]

OTT...

I'm rereading book 7, just because I can not not read 7 after rereading the series! And I know I'll get to this soon but I wanted to check... Did they explain how Snape found Harry and knew where to leave the sword? And did it have anything to do with the 'put outter' like he could over hear it when Ron was looking for HP and HG?

I cant remember for the life of me and I dont have the patients to wait till I'm up to it!

[Jules934]

Psychee, Of course we can. 

Do you think Dumbledore was right when he said that Voldemort chose between Harry, the half-blood like hinmself and Neviile, the pure blood? Or, did the Dark Lord intend to take no chances and kill both of them, but never got past the Potters? 

[Psychee]

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Lalo wrote:

OTT...

I'm rereading book 7, just because I can not not read 7 after rereading the series! And I know I'll get to this soon but I wanted to check... Did they explain how Snape found Harry and knew where to leave the sword? And did it have anything to do with the 'put outter' like he could over hear it when Ron was looking for HP and HG?

I cant remember for the life of me and I dont have the patients to wait till I'm up to it!

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Yes, it was explained and no it did not have anything to do with the Put-Outer. 

I assume you don't want more information than that -- but if you do, let us know!

[Psychee]

Although the sensible thing to do would be to take out both boys, I don't think Voldemort was sensible.  He had saved his last Horcrux making for Harry, according to JKR.  That indicates to me that he made his decision that Harry was the one destined to kill him.

Moreover, if he had wanted to kill Neville, I think Bella would have known about it and would have gotten Neville when she went after his parents.

I don't think Neville was on the target list at all.

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Jules934 wrote:

Psychee, Of course we can. 

Do you think Dumbledore was right when he said that Voldemort chose between Harry, the half-blood like hinmself and Neviile, the pure blood? Or, did the Dark Lord intend to take no chances and kill both of them, but never got past the Potters? 

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