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mriannicca
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Nookbooks - Lend Me question

Why can't I lend all of the books I have purchased from B&N?  Of all the books I have bought I can only lend a few.  That doesn't seem right.

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Ya_Ya
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

The publishers won't allow it.

 

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KCMB
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

Isn't this outrageous? I'm infuriated at the moment. I own more paperbacks than any person should. I lend books all the time. I've paid almost the same price for nook books that I have for paperbacks - which is also ridiculous! - and now I can't lend them? It's an outrage. I would have the ability to lend any paperback book I chose. At the same price I've had the ability to lend taken away?

 

I'm hoping someone can point me in the direction of where complaints are lodged. This policy needs to be changed.

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bklvr896
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question


KCMB wrote:

Isn't this outrageous? I'm infuriated at the moment. I own more paperbacks than any person should. I lend books all the time. I've paid almost the same price for nook books that I have for paperbacks - which is also ridiculous! - and now I can't lend them? It's an outrage. I would have the ability to lend any paperback book I chose. At the same price I've had the ability to lend taken away?

 

I'm hoping someone can point me in the direction of where complaints are lodged. This policy needs to be changed.


Well, as Ya_Ya said, the decision on the lendability of a book is made by the publisher.  The limit is the same everywhere, Kindle, Sony, Kobo, etc.  So, you'd have to contact each publisher, B&N can do nothing about changing the policy.

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GVT-Spender
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

I totally agree with. I too own a libruary of hardback books that I have been able to lend to family and friends and they likewise. Hopefully something can be done about this
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compulsivereaderTX
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

There are several discussions throughout the forums requesting NookFriends to hook up with. You can also go to facebook and find friends to share books with. I currently have several hundred friends now with a couple thousand books available to borrow. A good percentage of the books available for me to borrow are owned by more than one person. So even though I can borrow from one person, the book is still available from another person to loan out to someone else. No, can't usually lend or borrow the best sellers, but that's an issue with the publisher. Many of these same publishers are also refusing to sell ebooks to public libraries or putting such ridiculous restrictions on the ebooks that many public libraries simply can't afford them.

You CAN give a copy of ANY of your purchased ebooks to a friend or family member to sideload onto THEIR nook for use, but there's a catch. Your email and credit card number that is associated with the book has to be put into their nook before they can read it. This allows you to share your books with family members or friends that you trust. They can not share the book with anyone else without sharing YOUR information as it is needed to open and use the ebook. You can put the information on their nook yourself so you aren't actually giving that information to them. If you don't trust the person to not try to get the information for their own personal use or pass it around, you don't share the book. I use this technique with my daughter and it works great for us. We are both more likely to buy books knowing that both of us will get to read it, rather than deciding to NOT spend the money because only one of us will get to enjoy it. It works for us. 

 

Sharing the books through the lend me program is fairly simple, just need both parties to agree to the loan, then the borrowing person is the only person who has access to the book until it is returned or the 14 days is up.

 

But don't blame BN on it, they don't have any say over it.

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compulsivereaderTX
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

Someone has already said this, but I'll say it again to make sure it is heard:

 

The publishers decide whether a book is lendable or not and that is an across the board policy that applies for every copy of that ebook sold no matter who is selling it, (BN, Amazon, Kobo, etc).

 

The publishers are extremely paranoid about not getting paid for every copy that is read. They don't have a choice with paperbacks and hardbacks, but they CAN lock digital items to limit use so they do it.

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76commish
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

"Someone has already said this, but I'll say it again to make sure it is heard:

 

The publishers decide whether a book is lendable or not and that is an across the board policy that applies for every copy of that ebook sold no matter who is selling it"

 

 

This is a pure BS response. Barnes and Noble could easily stand up for their customers and notify the publishers that they will no longer carry Ebooks that are not lendable.

 

Barnes and Noble has serious clout, the Publishers cannot get their product out without them. Do you really believe the publishers will through away millions of dollars in profits by being cutoff from their distributors?

 

Instead they just stand by and do nothing to satisy their customers on this issue.

 

How bout standing up for the people who pay your bills?

 

 

 

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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question


76commish wrote:

 

This is a pure BS response. Barnes and Noble could easily stand up for their customers and notify the publishers that they will no longer carry Ebooks that are not lendable.

 

Barnes and Noble has serious clout, the Publishers cannot get their product out without them. Do you really believe the publishers will through away millions of dollars in profits by being cutoff from their distributors?

 

Instead they just stand by and do nothing to satisy their customers on this issue.

 

How bout standing up for the people who pay your bills?

 

 

 


Perhaps you should take it up with your congressman?

 

Or, since money is everything, you could quit buying eBooks from companies you think should stand up for their customers more.  Contact the publisher and let them know you won't buy any eBooks from them unless they make all of their eBooks lendable.

 

You could start a movement, organize readers to quit buying eBooks from companies whose policies you don't agree with.

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rmo56
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

And if you will notice, most ebooks actually published by B &N is lendable..
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ChipPM
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

76comish--I have only two things to say.

 

1) If your friends are too cheap to buy their own books or the only way you can keep them as friends is to loan them books you have bigger problems that Nooks can't solve.

 

2) A while back when the publishers were starting their "WE set ebook prices not you, Amazon" tactic Amazon tried to stop selling those particular publishers' books to see if they could force the publishers to let Amazon set the prices. Which do you think won that 'war'. Amazon's readers started to howl about Amazon depriving them and the publishers won. Who do you thing has more power-- Publishers or booksellers?

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FrogLady81
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question

If I have my sister on my account, (like you have your daughter and friends) does it matter how far away she is from my nook?  She doesn't have wifi or a wifi hotspot.  Will the books still download to her nook?

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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question


FrogLady81 wrote:

If I have my sister on my account, (like you have your daughter and friends) does it matter how far away she is from my nook?  She doesn't have wifi or a wifi hotspot.  Will the books still download to her nook?


Physical distance isn't an issue.  As long as she is able to get an internet connection, she can download the books.

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bklvr896
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Re: Nookbooks - Lend Me question


76commish wrote:

"Someone has already said this, but I'll say it again to make sure it is heard:

 

The publishers decide whether a book is lendable or not and that is an across the board policy that applies for every copy of that ebook sold no matter who is selling it"

 

 

This is a pure BS response. Barnes and Noble could easily stand up for their customers and notify the publishers that they will no longer carry Ebooks that are not lendable.

 

Barnes and Noble has serious clout, the Publishers cannot get their product out without them. Do you really believe the publishers will through away millions of dollars in profits by being cutoff from their distributors?

 

Instead they just stand by and do nothing to satisy their customers on this issue.

 

How bout standing up for the people who pay your bills?

 

 

 


Well, Amazon has way more clout than B&N, afterall, they still have the majority of eReaders out there, and they were unable to win the battle of the agency pricing with Penguin, they played chicken and Amazon blinked first.  The publishers, at this point, don't care, if B&N said they wouldn't carry any books that aren't lendable, I doubt it would bother them.   But it would bother a lot of consumers who want that book and can't get it.  Not to mention, since B&N customers can get the books from other sources, it would hurt BN, since the consumers would just go buy the book somewhere else.  

 

You are severely overestimating BNs influence in the eBook market and probably overestimating the number of customers who use or care about the Lend Me feature.