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Re: Chapter 5
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04-04-2007 10:53 AM
ziki wrote:
I feel terribly uncomfortable to read about Huck's father and his ways of abusing the child. It is typical how quickly Huck adjusts. Of course he has to in order to survive.
There's also the dichotomy of the so called freedom (image of a romantic freedom) as exemplified by Huck's idea about living in the woods, hunt, do what you want and the effect of 'sivilization' and the other style of living (authority, order) where you need to adjust to a (social) system and its demands in order to survive.
ziki
It was really hard to read the parts of the book surrounding Huck's abuse and the fued involving children. When you have kids it's hard to read something like that and not imagine your children in such a situation. Having a 10 year old son now completely changed my view of this story this time around. I had a similar experience with To Kill a Mocking Bird. As a teenager I read the story from Scout and Jem's point of view, as an adult from Atticus'. I think that is one of the hallmarks of great literature, it can actually grow and change with you as you grow and change.
to kill a mocking bird
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04-05-2007 09:22 AM
ziki
Re: Huck makes his escape: Chapters 5-11
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04-05-2007 04:03 PM
ziki
boat shaped islands
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04-09-2007 04:35 PM
friery wrote: I'd have to go back and see if Twain described his island as boat-shaped.
Aren't islands in rivers often boat shaped? The water is streaming by, not the same as in a lake that is more still or a sea.
ziki
Huck and Jim
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04-09-2007 04:49 PM
fanuzzir wrote: Then there's always the Love and Death in the American Novel perspective, which argues that Huck and Jim are alot like Ishmael and Queeqeg. Wait a minute! Didn't we have this discussion two months ago?
I could go on. . . Huck Finn has always been a Rorschak of American critical schools.
Yay, I came to this party when every body's already left. Too, bad. Queequeg and Ishmael, hmmm, the male friendship theme again; here set in another "age interval", grown up black man and a small white kid. Both are homeless, moving on. On the road? The Big American Journey?
Huck Finn is a kid that does what other kids could only dream about. Or couldn't even dream about, like forming a friendship with a 'nig-er' while floating on a river on the way to nowhere. Tell me all about it!
ziki
was learning...
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04-09-2007 04:51 PM
JesseBC wrote:
Oh, Fan, I don't care whether you agree with me or not -- I just learn so much from you that I'm happy you're here.
Hmmm..... and now BN put the end to it...I can't get over it, I must say!
ziki
Re: Huck as Adam
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04-09-2007 04:54 PM - last edited on 04-09-2007 04:54 PM
fanuzzir wrote:
Huck faking his own death and beginning his life over again--that makes Pap, or Finn, some figure of original sin, which the self-inventing American archetype is able to overcome. There's such a grisly gaiety in this image of a butchered hog, a father's body floating in the river, and a liberated young striver born again.
I'm reminded also of the butchered Christianity in the novel, and the profane outlook that Huck has about everything. These are Twain's brilliant reinterpretion of an essentially Christian myth about regeneration and freely willed salvation. Only he does not let his hero stay clear of social encumbrances for long, and soon abandons the journey up river after half the book.
Oh, my head is too small for all that
Message Edited by ziki on 04-09-200701:56 PM
Re: Huck as Adam....naaah!
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04-09-2007 05:00 PM
I can't really sew together this Adam thingy speculation and the whole cassock with it!
ziki
Re: was learning...
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04-16-2007 01:24 AM
ziki wrote:
JesseBC wrote:
Oh, Fan, I don't care whether you agree with me or not -- I just learn so much from you that I'm happy you're here.
Hmmm..... and now BN put the end to it...I can't get over it, I must say!
ziki
Re: was learning...
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04-16-2007 10:16 AM
JesseBC wrote:
They put an end to it? How? Don't tell me Fan's not here anymore!
ziki wrote:
JesseBC wrote:
Oh, Fan, I don't care whether you agree with me or not -- I just learn so much from you that I'm happy you're here.
Hmmm..... and now BN put the end to it...I can't get over it, I must say!
ziki
Sad, but true. If you go to the American Classics board there is a goodbye from Bob Fanuzzi, he's been gone since the end of March.
Re: was learning...
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04-24-2007 04:24 PM
JesseBC wrote:
They put an end to it? How? Don't tell me Fan's not here anymore!
no, he's not
ziki
Re: was learning...
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04-30-2007 06:32 PM
He was one of the few moderators I've ever seen on ANY forum who actually encouraged intelligent conversation instead of just running around like an overgrown hall monitor giving people warnings about bad language and shutting down conversations that start to get interesting because, God forbid, it might make someone "uncomfortable."
KristyR wrote:
JesseBC wrote:
They put an end to it? How? Don't tell me Fan's not here anymore!
ziki wrote:
JesseBC wrote:
Oh, Fan, I don't care whether you agree with me or not -- I just learn so much from you that I'm happy you're here.
Hmmm..... and now BN put the end to it...I can't get over it, I must say!
ziki
Sad, but true. If you go to the American Classics board there is a goodbye from Bob Fanuzzi, he's been gone since the end of March.
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