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Do you think any driver could have this kind of accident under the right (or exactly wrong) circumstances? Does your answer mirror your opinion of people who make huge, consequential mistakes in other parts of their lives?

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The automobile accident that happened to Kara could happen to anyone under wrong or right circumstances. That's what's so terrifying about it -- that it could happen to me, or to anyone in my family.

We bombard ourselves (as Leigh does at the beginning of the novel) with "if only this", or "if only that". But the limits of the control we have over our lives explodes in our face in the circumstances that Kara and her family must face in this novel.

Modern technology encourages in us the false belief that we can control our environment and our destinies,,, air conditioners in the summers, central heating in the winters, better and safer cars, the best lawyers, the best medical specialists, the best medicines. We can control any bad situation with the right tools and the right information.

But stories like FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE highlights how limited we truly are in certain circumstances. There are repercussions for all of our actions -- whether innocent or not.

Kara and her family in the novel travel in their individual ways to understand that this accident comes with responsibility and accountability; it is fascinating to follow how she and her family navigate that incredibly difficult moral dilemma.
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Do you think any driver could have this kind of accident under the right (or exactly wrong) circumstances? Does your answer mirror your opinion of people who make huge, consequential mistakes in other parts of their lives?

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This certainly could happen to any driver. We all make mistakes and that includes for certain when we are driving. That is alot of responsibility you take in your hands. You can kill in a instant. It's like a loaded gun, take your mind off the road for a second, you or someone certainly could be gone from this world in a second.Young drivers never think this could happen to them. They hate it when you keep reminding them to be careful, be alert, they just do not realize the dangers they face every second behind that wheel.

And I will say I do not think any one should drive eating, drinking or talking on the phone. It is too much of a distraction, I can speak for myself, I do not need any distractions to draw my attention away from the road. The cell phone has caused major mishaps on our highways and streets. Our state will not take any action against adults but now its limited with teenagers.

And with teenagers they should be warned all the time, about the distractions that cause their attention to divert from their driving.
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I think under the right circumstances, any of us are capable of this kind of accident. Anyone can get distracted for that split second it takes to cause a wreck or fatality. The thing is we have to take responsibility for limiting those distractions when we are doing something, like driving, that one mistake could be your last or someone else's. There were several things happening at once that caused Kara's accident, too much happening when she pulled out. Kid's think, as we all did, that they are immortal, indestructible or that "those thing" just dont happen to them.

I go back and forth on the idea of being on the phone while driving. I wonder what the stats are for adults on phone accidents vs teens on phone accidents. Something interesting I have noticed too as far as anyone on the phone driving, remember when cell phones were about the size of your cordless phone at home? You didnt hear about so many accidents where a phone was maybe a contributing cause. The smaller the phones get, the more it takes mentally (albeit subconsciously)and physically, to control it. In other words, they have become more of a distraction. Some states now have laws against using the phone and driving, I dont even know what my state law is anymore but doesnt seem to stop anyone. Some states have laws where you can use the hands free ones with voice command but not a handheld one. I kind of like that option even tho my car doesn't have that kind. To me thats not any different than talking to a friend in the car with you. We do that all the time and can handle it. As for 'any' distraction, not even drinking, I don't know about that, I got to have my pop or water and thats never really been a proven cause of more car accidents but if you want to limit all distractions, then no more radios guys, or talking to friends in the car.

We can reasonably limit the distractions and pull over to make a call, or like in Kara's case, make that call before you take off and make sure the dog is secured in the car too for sure before you move. But all that being said, heck, we can be alone with perfect silence and control and if our minds wander to things we need to do or an argument that day or anything like that, we can make a mistake that is costly. Is there anyone here who hasnt missed a stopsign, maybe one they even knew about, at least once in their life but was just lucky?
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Stephanie wrote:
Do you think any driver could have this kind of accident under the right (or exactly wrong) circumstances? Does your answer mirror your opinion of people who make huge, consequential mistakes in other parts of their lives?

In this section, please contain your references to the first four chapters of the novel. Please be mindful of spoilers regarding material from later chapters.


As for the second part of this question, I am not quite sure what you are asking. Can we make choices in our other aspects of our lives that have dire consequences? Well sure, and we do. Maybe not dire consequences but that really cause problems after. Being responsible in life wouldn't always prevent those but most, unlike the responsibility we have with cars and machines, most arent going to cause a death. In that way, those are different than our responsibility behind a wheel, so I dont know if thats really answering your question. Most of our mistakes, even if they have big consequences can be corrected. Those involving death cant, you cant bring them back. I don't know that that has anything to do with my 'opinion' of others who make mistakes in their own lives. Something that brings on the death of a child of mine, I might have a very strong opinion on that would take a lot of working through, if i could at all.
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I think under the right circumstances, any of us are capable of this kind of accident. Anyone can get distracted for that split second it takes to cause a wreck or fatality. The thing is we have to take responsibility for limiting those distractions when we are doing something, like driving, that one mistake could be your last or someone else's. There were several things happening at once that caused Kara's accident, too much happening when she pulled out. Kid's think, as we all did, that they are immortal, indestructible or that "those thing" just dont happen to them.

I go back and forth on the idea of being on the phone while driving. I wonder what the stats are for adults on phone accidents vs teens on phone accidents. Something interesting I have noticed too as far as anyone on the phone driving, remember when cell phones were about the size of your cordless phone at home? You didnt hear about so many accidents where a phone was maybe a contributing cause. The smaller the phones get, the more it takes mentally (albeit subconsciously)and physically, to control it. In other words, they have become more of a distraction. Some states now have laws against using the phone and driving, I dont even know what my state law is anymore but doesnt seem to stop anyone. Some states have laws where you can use the hands free ones with voice command but not a handheld one. I kind of like that option even tho my car doesn't have that kind. To me thats not any different than talking to a friend in the car with you. We do that all the time and can handle it. As for 'any' distraction, not even drinking, I don't know about that, I got to have my pop or water and thats never really been a proven cause of more car accidents but if you want to limit all distractions, then no more radios guys, or talking to friends in the car.

We can reasonably limit the distractions and pull over to make a call, or like in Kara's case, make that call before you take off and make sure the dog is secured in the car too for sure before you move. But all that being said, heck, we can be alone with perfect silence and control and if our minds wander to things we need to do or an argument that day or anything like that, we can make a mistake that is costly. Is there anyone here who hasnt missed a stopsign, maybe one they even knew about, at least once in their life but was just lucky?





You are right, Vivian, it is harder now to talk with such a little phone, dialing, seeing the number and all that. But I do not drive with a phone, like I said I need all my senses in front of me.Believe me, Vivian I can't concetrate with the radio loud, it is bearly hearable with me. Hey! am I saying, its all me! ha. a accident ready to happen! Hope not. What a terrible thought!
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vivico1 wrote:

Stephanie wrote:
Do you think any driver could have this kind of accident under the right (or exactly wrong) circumstances? Does your answer mirror your opinion of people who make huge, consequential mistakes in other parts of their lives?

In this section, please contain your references to the first four chapters of the novel. Please be mindful of spoilers regarding material from later chapters.


As for the second part of this question, I am not quite sure what you are asking. Can we make choices in our other aspects of our lives that have dire consequences? Well sure, and we do. Maybe not dire consequences but that really cause problems after. Being responsible in life wouldn't always prevent those but most, unlike the responsibility we have with cars and machines, most arent going to cause a death. In that way, those are different than our responsibility behind a wheel, so I dont know if thats really answering your question. Most of our mistakes, even if they have big consequences can be corrected. Those involving death cant, you cant bring them back. I don't know that that has anything to do with my 'opinion' of others who make mistakes in their own lives. Something that brings on the death of a child of mine, I might have a very strong opinion on that would take a lot of working through, if i could at all.




Did you mean if people make terrible judgments or have say warped character, then they are more likely to crash or cause one. I don't think it has anything to do with how reckless a person is in other parts of their lives. It can happen to a person who is perfect in every aspect of their lives or not anywhere near perfect. Its simply a human aspect.
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Do you think any driver could have this kind of accident under the right (or exactly wrong) circumstances? Does your answer mirror your opinion of people who make huge, consequential mistakes in other parts of their lives?
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The second part of your question is much more thought-provoking.

There are 2 types of car accidents, and the law prosecutes them differently.

There is "negligence", when the driver makes an innocent mistake. Like Kara does. This kind of accident can happen to anyyone who's distracted, and not paying attention -- like talking on the cel phone, or being distracted by a loose puppy in the backseat.

A totally different type of accident is caused by "recklessness", which is not at all innocent. It's much more serious. That's when someone, for example, deliberately goes through a red light, and hits a pedestrian.

In life, we all make mistakes that vary by intent. We all make "negligent" mistakes by not paying attention. These mistakes are judged less harshly, and are more easily forgiven.

The "reckless" mistakes that some people make are not so easily forgiveable. And accountability for these mistakes must be much more serious. For example, recklessly endangering children by not supervising them carefully near, let's say, a swimming pool.

In the novel, we find different levels of "mistakes". As as readers, we judge them indvidually. We need to think about the levels of responsibility and accountability these mistakes require.
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vivico1 wrote:
I think under the right circumstances, any of us are capable of this kind of accident. Anyone can get distracted for that split second it takes to cause a wreck or fatality. The thing is we have to take responsibility for limiting those distractions when we are doing something, like driving, that one mistake could be your last or someone else's. There were several things happening at once that caused Kara's accident, too much happening when she pulled out. Kid's think, as we all did, that they are immortal, indestructible or that "those thing" just dont happen to them.

I go back and forth on the idea of being on the phone while driving. I wonder what the stats are for adults on phone accidents vs teens on phone accidents. Something interesting I have noticed too as far as anyone on the phone driving, remember when cell phones were about the size of your cordless phone at home? You didnt hear about so many accidents where a phone was maybe a contributing cause. The smaller the phones get, the more it takes mentally (albeit subconsciously)and physically, to control it. In other words, they have become more of a distraction. Some states now have laws against using the phone and driving, I dont even know what my state law is anymore but doesnt seem to stop anyone. Some states have laws where you can use the hands free ones with voice command but not a handheld one. I kind of like that option even tho my car doesn't have that kind. To me thats not any different than talking to a friend in the car with you. We do that all the time and can handle it. As for 'any' distraction, not even drinking, I don't know about that, I got to have my pop or water and thats never really been a proven cause of more car accidents but if you want to limit all distractions, then no more radios guys, or talking to friends in the car.

We can reasonably limit the distractions and pull over to make a call, or like in Kara's case, make that call before you take off and make sure the dog is secured in the car too for sure before you move. But all that being said, heck, we can be alone with perfect silence and control and if our minds wander to things we need to do or an argument that day or anything like that, we can make a mistake that is costly. Is there anyone here who hasnt missed a stopsign, maybe one they even knew about, at least once in their life but was just lucky?



Accidents can absolutely happen to anyone. You have to do your best to be offensive and defensive while driving to minimize the chances of an accident. Here in NY state it's illegal to use your cell phone while driving unless you are wearing a headset or are using another type of hands free model. There are also different driving restrictions for new teenage drivers than adults. You can get a permit at 16 but you have to wait at least 6 months to take your road test. If you don't take Driver's Ed in school you can't get your night license until 18. It's 17 with D Ed. Teenage drivers are limited to fewer passengers too. I think it's two.

In June there was a terrible accident less than 2 hours from where I live in a small town near Rochester. It made the national news and many magazines and papers. I saw that it was part of an article called "Deadly Distractions" in this month's Reader's Digest. The article is very appropriate for our discussion and they gave examples of outrageous behavior behind the wheel like shaving (legs!) and bottle feeding a baby in the back seat. The accident this summer involved five girls who had graduated from high school a few days before and were on their way to a cottage to celebrate. There was a car full of friends behind them too and they were calling and text messaging (on cell phones) each other. The first car crossed the center line and hit a semi truck head on and burst into flames. The truck driver tried to rescue them but the flames were too hot. All five girls were killed and no one is sure what caused the accident but the driver's phone received a text message 38 seconds before the first 911 call. There is no way to know if the driver was the one using her phone or if one of the other girls was. I can't even begin to imagine the impact of this tragedy. It affected so many lives and was so very, very horrible. It only took a few seconds to lose control. I talked to my kids about it often this summer. Two of them can drive now. They told me how common it is for teens to text while driving. They do it one handed or have the passenger hold the wheel. I'm not totally naive but I was shocked! Needless to say they've been warned over and over again not to do it. They won't be using a phone or a car again for a very long time if it happens. It's scary enough having them drive. They have friends they aren't allowed to ride with either because they are too careless and wild. I lost a nephew in a car accident so I know that it can happen in an instant and there's no way to take it back.
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Wrighty, yours was a great reply. Some horrible accidents happen because of lack of focus on the highway. Teenagers have this alitude, it will never happen to me. Why do they feel so untouchable? Don't they see their friends dying and getting hurt? I know two teenager children who died in car wrecks also and both incidents they were not paying attention. I imagine most of us could recall at least one incident either kin or close friend where this has happened to a teenager. If only they could realize how serious driving really is. It seems they have this alitude that driving is easy, what is all the fuss about, that is until they have a accident or very close cause. My granddaughter was like that, it was oh, granny, i know what I am doing, or oh mom, please, I can drive as good as you, and then she had a accident, and she was charged with not yielding rightaway turning left.
She was seventeen, hadn't been driving long at all. I am glad it was so little damage and injury done, but God, why are they so stubborn.
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kiakar wrote:
Wrighty, yours was a great reply. Some horrible accidents happen because of lack of focus on the highway. Teenagers have this alitude, it will never happen to me. Why do they feel so untouchable? Don't they see their friends dying and getting hurt? I know two teenager children who died in car wrecks also and both incidents they were not paying attention. I imagine most of us could recall at least one incident either kin or close friend where this has happened to a teenager. If only they could realize how serious driving really is. It seems they have this alitude that driving is easy, what is all the fuss about, that is until they have a accident or very close cause. My granddaughter was like that, it was oh, granny, i know what I am doing, or oh mom, please, I can drive as good as you, and then she had a accident, and she was charged with not yielding rightaway turning left.
She was seventeen, hadn't been driving long at all. I am glad it was so little damage and injury done, but God, why are they so stubborn.


why? look back at us as teenagers, werent we the same way about things? We may not have had cell phones but we thought we were invincible. All teenagers do, or think they know better than their "old" parents.:smileywink: You teach, you hope, you pray.
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vivico1 wrote:

kiakar wrote:
Wrighty, yours was a great reply. Some horrible accidents happen because of lack of focus on the highway. Teenagers have this alitude, it will never happen to me. Why do they feel so untouchable? Don't they see their friends dying and getting hurt? I know two teenager children who died in car wrecks also and both incidents they were not paying attention. I imagine most of us could recall at least one incident either kin or close friend where this has happened to a teenager. If only they could realize how serious driving really is. It seems they have this alitude that driving is easy, what is all the fuss about, that is until they have a accident or very close cause. My granddaughter was like that, it was oh, granny, i know what I am doing, or oh mom, please, I can drive as good as you, and then she had a accident, and she was charged with not yielding rightaway turning left.
She was seventeen, hadn't been driving long at all. I am glad it was so little damage and injury done, but God, why are they so stubborn.


why? look back at us as teenagers, werent we the same way about things? We may not have had cell phones but we thought we were invincible. All teenagers do, or think they know better than their "old" parents.:smileywink: You teach, you hope, you pray.






I was the very definition of stubborn as a teenager. I was a good kid but I had my own ideas and ways and I thought I knew what was best for me. I told myself since then that I was always going to try to remember what the teenage years felt like - the good, the bad and the sometimes ugly. It has helped because now with my teenagers I may not always agree with their actions but I usually understand where they come from. I try to keep that in mind when I explain things to them instead of giving them the "because I said so!" answer.

Teenagers are experiencing so many new freedoms that they want to test the limits and see how high they can fly. That's a wonderful trait to encourage in most cases but it can sometimes be dangerous if they don't set some boundaries for themselves. Of course they will feel invincible if they can't relate to how vulnerable we all really are. If they don't have any experience with accidents, injury or even death many young people don't realize it can happen to them and their friends and family. And it's certainly not just teenagers that act and feel this way. I think that's the age when it becomes the most prominent but some people never outgrow it. That's not necessarily a bad thing if there is common sense involved. The world needs people to be brave, daring and to tackle new challenges. Of course they will get farther if they are safe and knowledgeable about the challenges they are attempting. There is a big difference in doing that and being reckless and dangerous. I'm not nearly as daring as I used to be but I don't ever want to be afraid to push my own limits.
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Vivian and Wrighty;About trying to warn teenagers that they aren't invincible, that it can happen to them:

you are right, is this the way life is suppose to be. Teenagers defying the truth all through eternity and parents trying, trying and then some but with the same result, just praying and praying that they have gotten through to their kids. But sometimes no, it doesn't and the parent suffers a worse than death experience I am sure with the death of their child.
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kiakar wrote:
Vivian and Wrighty;About trying to warn teenagers that they aren't invincible, that it can happen to them:

you are right, is this the way life is suppose to be. Teenagers defying the truth all through eternity and parents trying, trying and then some but with the same result, just praying and praying that they have gotten through to their kids. But sometimes no, it doesn't and the parent suffers a worse than death experience I am sure with the death of their child.



I'm so sad to report another terrible accident occurred near here over the weekend. It happened in a very small town with a senior class of just 40 kids. It was their Homecoming weekend and the only girl of the group was crowned princess. Apparently the 4 of them (a freshman boy, a boy and girl senior and a 21 year old post graduate boy) were later partying and drinking with other kids. They were traveling after 3:00 a.m. Saturday morning at a high speed and swerved, hit a guard rail, went down a bank and flipped over into a very shallow stream. Search parties went out and looked for them, even tracking a cell phone signal to narrow the area. It's very rural here. They weren't found until Monday afternoon and all of them had died. It's so tragic and I can't even imagine what the families have gone through. More and more details are coming now and I think the funerals start tomorrow. It's so heartbreaking. I can't even find the right words for it and I can't stop thinking about it. I wish I was only reading about it in a book.
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Wrighty wrote:

kiakar wrote:
Vivian and Wrighty;About trying to warn teenagers that they aren't invincible, that it can happen to them:

you are right, is this the way life is suppose to be. Teenagers defying the truth all through eternity and parents trying, trying and then some but with the same result, just praying and praying that they have gotten through to their kids. But sometimes no, it doesn't and the parent suffers a worse than death experience I am sure with the death of their child.



I'm so sad to report another terrible accident occurred near here over the weekend. It happened in a very small town with a senior class of just 40 kids. It was their Homecoming weekend and the only girl of the group was crowned princess. Apparently the 4 of them (a freshman boy, a boy and girl senior and a 21 year old post graduate boy) were later partying and drinking with other kids. They were traveling after 3:00 a.m. Saturday morning at a high speed and swerved, hit a guard rail, went down a bank and flipped over into a very shallow stream. Search parties went out and looked for them, even tracking a cell phone signal to narrow the area. It's very rural here. They weren't found until Monday afternoon and all of them had died. It's so tragic and I can't even imagine what the families have gone through. More and more details are coming now and I think the funerals start tomorrow. It's so heartbreaking. I can't even find the right words for it and I can't stop thinking about it. I wish I was only reading about it in a book.





You are so right, Wrighty. It is so sad this happens too often.
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I recently watched a show on Dr. Phil about this young, beautiful girl that was a habitual texter while driving. She had already went up on a curb and damaged her car, almost hit an oncoming car and I belive had received a ticket for swerving while driving because of texting or something. They put her through a simulated driving test and made her text the whole time. I think you had to get like a 90% to pass the test - she got a 10! The whole show she just sat up there with this little smirk on her face while Dr. Phil preached to her about how dangerous it was and how she could kill herself or someone else. He brought on a young man that struck and killed an elderly man while texting on his cell phone. This young man pleaded with her that it is best to pull over or simply wait because killing someone and having to sit in a courtroom was no comparison to getting the latest gossip on your cell phone. She still was not convinced. She had a "it won't happen to me" attitude. To play into the dynamics of the story with Leigh and Kara, I found it so interesting that her mother had not simply taken away this girls phone!! She seemed almost scared of making her daughter mad or having her daughter upset with her. When Dr. Phil asked her if she was going to take the phone away and she said yes, the daughter shot her this " I will hate you forever" look and you could literally see her mother back down. I think as parents we want so much to make our kids happy, we will sacrifice what is most important - their safety. But you always here that one famous line when something tragic happens..."I never thought it could happen to me."
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MissMandy wrote:
I recently watched a show on Dr. Phil about this young, beautiful girl that was a habitual texter while driving. She had already went up on a curb and damaged her car, almost hit an oncoming car and I belive had received a ticket for swerving while driving because of texting or something. They put her through a simulated driving test and made her text the whole time. I think you had to get like a 90% to pass the test - she got a 10! The whole show she just sat up there with this little smirk on her face while Dr. Phil preached to her about how dangerous it was and how she could kill herself or someone else. He brought on a young man that struck and killed an elderly man while texting on his cell phone. This young man pleaded with her that it is best to pull over or simply wait because killing someone and having to sit in a courtroom was no comparison to getting the latest gossip on your cell phone. She still was not convinced. She had a "it won't happen to me" attitude. To play into the dynamics of the story with Leigh and Kara, I found it so interesting that her mother had not simply taken away this girls phone!! She seemed almost scared of making her daughter mad or having her daughter upset with her. When Dr. Phil asked her if she was going to take the phone away and she said yes, the daughter shot her this " I will hate you forever" look and you could literally see her mother back down. I think as parents we want so much to make our kids happy, we will sacrifice what is most important - their safety. But you always here that one famous line when something tragic happens..."I never thought it could happen to me."



I saw that episode too and I wanted to reach through the TV and smack that girl! And her mother! They didn't get it at all. The girl had an excuse for everything and she was so proud that she was texting while driving. The mother claimed she didn't know some of the things that were going on. I think the daughter had already been stopped by the police for something but I can't remember the details. She had already had 2 or 3 minor fender benders and she hadn't even been driving a year. The mother did not want to say that she would take that phone away. Dr. Phil and the audience kept pressuring her until at the end of the show she finally, kind of said OK she would. It was pretty obvious she won't. I hope they watch the tape of the show when they get home and see how stupid they were. I also hope he does a follow up show on them and it's about good news. If something happens to her daughter after all of the warnings she's had, how would she ever be able to live with herself?
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Any driver can have an accident like this. I have had several accidents-and one I did hit someone, thank God the part of my car that did hit this girl was my outside, passenger-side mirror. Trust me, I felt as awful as I have ever felt.

What comes to mind-thanks to Vivico's post are the terms wanton and willful. Some people do make decisions that are malicious, reckless and deliberate.

Does my answer mirror my opinions of people who make huge, consequential mistakes in other parts of their lives? My answer is this: Take a look at the person's record and the life they have led. Have all of their mistakes been deliberate, reckless, malicious?
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You know, I think the very concept of what we understand to be an accident shows that this could happen to anybody. Well, except me. I take public transportation.

And if you believe that things in life happen that are true accidents--and certainly that is sometimes the case--well, I don't know that you can legitimately extrapolate anything about the perpetrator or their life.
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Registered: ‎10-19-2006
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Re: another tragic story

Miss Mandy,

I think Dr. Phil's show will probably end up as evidence in court someday. The girl in question is not going to stop texting while driving, and that mother certainly isn't going to take her phone away. It will be a miracle if the girl doesn't kill someone. When she does, they'll show the footage of her smirking at Dr. Phil and bragging about her texting prowess, and she'll probably get the maximum sentence.
Stephanie
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