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Re: America Mystery Classics: CRAIG RICE


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eadieburke wrote:

Over the weekend, I read:

 

Who Was That Lady?  

 

and one of her books called THE LUCKY STIFF.

 

I really enjoyed Jeffrey's biography. She definitely was quite a person. I really felt sorry for her because she was a victim of the times. There is a lot more known about bipolar, alcoholism and domestic abuse today. If she lived today, her life could have been alot better and possibly she would have lived longer than 49 years. 

 

She was a very talented writer and I really enjoyed THE LUCKY STIFF. She was also very humorous and told lies and stretched the truth a bit, but that was part of her disease. You couldn't help but like her as was obvious by her ability to pull people into her stories and lies. She was very entertaining and that's what people liked about her! 

 

I am definitely looking forward to reading more of her books and also some of Jeffrey's other biographies!

 

 


It's sad and shocking so little is known about her today. If it wasn't for Jeff's book, I'd never have heard of her - and I've been reading mysteries from that era all my life. Honestly, I'm surprised my parents didn't have copies of her books.


Maybe people liked her so much that they held onto her books or she was so controversial people stopped buying them. That is such a mystery that your parents didn't have any of her books!


They had pretty  much every other mystery author, so it is kind of strange.

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I've not heard of her."Who was that lady?" Sounds like a fiting title then.

She was famous enough to make the cover of time, and yet I rarely find her books in used book stores. Very odd.

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Craig, Hi and welcome. I hope you have nice visit. I was looking at your books covers and they are intriguing. Very different from what I used too.

 

How did you come up with them?

What do you like about writing mysteries?

 

I always wonder this.

 

So again welcome and have a great visit.

 

ReadingPatti

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ReadingPatti wrote:

Craig, Hi and welcome. I hope you have nice visit. I was looking at your books covers and they are intriguing. Very different from what I used too.

 

How did you come up with them?

What do you like about writing mysteries?

 

I always wonder this.

 

So again welcome and have a great visit.

 

ReadingPatti


Patti - Sadly, Craig Rice died some time back, but Jeff Marks - who wrote the definitive biography about her - will be checking in with us this week. He's at Sleuthfest right now:

 

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Welcome Jeff! I do have a question. If you were to meet Craig Rice today. What would you say or ask her?
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Hi

 

No, I really did not leave much out that I learned. I toned down some of the seamier aspects of her life, as the bad years were really unattractive. But I did not leave anything out. 

 

I've learned a few things since publication of the book. For example, James Lipton, of Inside the Actor's Studio, was Craig's stepson. 

 

There have been other scholarly publications. There was a book on the Heirans case. There have been 2 more biographies of Gypsy (which bore out my own research.) 

 

Jeff

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Craig started in journalism, which was still a man's game in the 1920s-1930s. She had built up a reputation there, and did not want to lose her name recognition. So she kept the name for mystery writing. 

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Wow, great question!

 

I'd probably start with clarifying a few details that I wasn't able to confirm about her life. Then I'd ask her about her marriages. I'd like to find out more about why she selected each one of them. They were all so different!

 

Jeff

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Wow, great question!

 

I'd probably start with clarifying a few details that I wasn't able to confirm about her life. Then I'd ask her about her marriages. I'd like to find out more about why she selected each one of them. They were all so different!

 

Jeff


Seems to me that she did't want to be alone and had to have a man in her life, so whoever was available at the time became the next man in her life for better or for worse!
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Hi

 

No, I really did not leave much out that I learned. I toned down some of the seamier aspects of her life, as the bad years were really unattractive. But I did not leave anything out. 

 

I've learned a few things since publication of the book. For example, James Lipton, of Inside the Actor's Studio, was Craig's stepson. 

 

There have been other scholarly publications. There was a book on the Heirans case. There have been 2 more biographies of Gypsy (which bore out my own research.) 

 

Jeff


You're kidding - James Lipton was her stepson? Are you going to try to interview him one day, or have you moved on? (I noticed you're working on Erle Stanley Gardner and Ellery Queen now...)

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Jeff - How's everything going at Sleuthfest? I didn't realize it was in Orlando - my daughter lives there. Darn, wish I'd noticed that sooner!

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Hi Jeff, was there somthing you found out about Craig Rice that made you say "WOW!"?
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I had never heard of Craig Rice before, but it's been very interesting reading about her.  Jeff, thanks for your insights into her life!

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Yes, one and the same! 

 

I bought a copy of his own memoir to see if it would be worthwhile to interview him and update the biography, but by his own admission, he had little to do with his father (the father left the family to go marry Craig), and what few facts he included about Craig were entirely wrong. So I didn't feel it would serve much purpose. 

 

Yes, I'm nearly done with Gardner and beginning to look towards Ellery Queen!

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Wow, it would have been nice to see you in Orlando! 

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The audacity of lying to Time magazine was probably the biggest WOW factor I had. 

 

The best memory from doing the book was probably watching the movie version of Home Sweet Homicide with Craig's children. (the book was loosely based on her own family.)

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Yes, one and the same! 

 

I bought a copy of his own memoir to see if it would be worthwhile to interview him and update the biography, but by his own admission, he had little to do with his father (the father left the family to go marry Craig), and what few facts he included about Craig were entirely wrong. So I didn't feel it would serve much purpose. 

 

Yes, I'm nearly done with Gardner and beginning to look towards Ellery Queen!


Jeff - This is our schedule for the new, last week of the month feature we're calling American Mystery Classics. Stop in and join us for some of these, too!

 

January: ERLE STANLEY GARDNER (aka A.A. FAIR)

 

February: CRAIG RICE

 

March: DASHIELL HAMMETT

 

April: FRANCES AND RICHARD LOCKRIDGE

 

May: FREDERICK DANNAY AND MANFRED BENNINGTON LEE (aka ELLERY QUEEN)

 

June: ED MCBAIN

 

July: CHARLOTTE ARMSTRONG

 

August: REX STOUT

 

September: HELEN MACINNES

 

October: IRA LEVIN

 

November: DORIS MILES DISNEY

 

December: RAYMOND CHANDLER

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The audacity of lying to Time magazine was probably the biggest WOW factor I had. 

 

The best memory from doing the book was probably watching the movie version of Home Sweet Homicide with Craig's children. (the book was loosely based on her own family.)


I want to try and find that. There are clips on YouTube - I think I posted one here.