Reply
Reader 4
BadBiscuit
Posts: 4
Registered: ‎11-04-2010

Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

I have to say that I was shocked at some of the titles that come up in general searches for books on BN.com.  We gave our 11 and 13 year old their own Nooks for Christmas, and I don't want them exposed to this sort of material.  Is there any way to put a family-friendly filter in place, or are we just going to have to not allow the kids to search online for books themselves??

Frequent Contributor
elsie_kev
Posts: 41
Registered: ‎10-19-2006

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

[ Edited ]

My 11 yr old also has a Nook. I have put a password on it.  I shop online for books with her, and I have to agree with the book she buys. When we agree on the book, I will then download it for her as she does not know the password.

 

I do  not know if you can filter the books and some of the racy books are nothing more than porn in written form. 

Frequent Contributor
IronmanMM
Posts: 28
Registered: ‎04-24-2010

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

Especially the free nookbooks seem to have about 35 -40 percent porn.  Very disturbing for the parent of the young NOOK user.

Reader 4
BadBiscuit
Posts: 4
Registered: ‎11-04-2010

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

Exactly.  I understand e-books are the perfect avenue for people who like this sort of thing to obtain it without embarrassment, but there ought to be some way for the rest of us to be able to filter or block it.

Contributor
Suengel
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎12-27-2010

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

Hi there, I would also like to know if there is a way to filter porn out as well and I'm an adult. I did a search on 0.00 and was frustrated to find out quite of few of the free books were erotica/porn.

In order to review the freebooks I have to go through alot of junk I really have no interest in seeing.

 

Does anyone know of a way?

 

thanks

Distinguished Wordsmith
bklvr896
Posts: 4,497
Registered: ‎12-31-2009
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

 


Suengel wrote:

Hi there, I would also like to know if there is a way to filter porn out as well and I'm an adult. I did a search on 0.00 and was frustrated to find out quite of few of the free books were erotica/porn.

In order to review the freebooks I have to go through alot of junk I really have no interest in seeing.

 

Does anyone know of a way?

 

thanks


 

The only way I can think of would be to limit your search by genre and avoid putting in Romance, Erotica, etc.  Example, search 0.00 mystery or 0.00 thrillers, etc.  Conceivable, that would limit your search to those books and exclude the other stuff.  But, if someone writes and erotica novel and tags it as erotica and mystery, it's still going to show up.   I'm not sure who decides what genre each book is tagged with, but unless they add a genre tag to a book that says "porn" or "erotica" or something like that, I don't know how a search engine could exclude those books.  I've seen examples where the genre listed for the book makes little sense, but again, don't know if it is B&N or the publisher, or who.

 

But the bottom line is, to filter out, it has to have something to filter on.  And what one reader considers simply romance, another may consider erotica.  

Inspired Contributor
JohnP51
Posts: 1,294
Registered: ‎12-31-2008

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

I'm an adult nook owner and don't want to see that stuff either. Add me to the list of concerned readers.

John

"Books are for people who wish they were somewhere else." ~ Mark Twain
Contributor
Suengel
Posts: 24
Registered: ‎12-27-2010
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

hi there, I tried that method using " 0.00 mystery" and it seems to filter abit better but you are right if someone tags it , it will be there.

 

However this is alot better , thanks for the hint as I'm getting to more of the books I'm interested in reading.

Distinguished Wordsmith
bklvr896
Posts: 4,497
Registered: ‎12-31-2009
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

 


Suengel wrote:

hi there, I tried that method using " 0.00 mystery" and it seems to filter abit better but you are right if someone tags it , it will be there.

 

However this is alot better , thanks for the hint as I'm getting to more of the books I'm interested in reading.


 

Glad to be of help.  It would be nice to be able to "exclude" filter, but it comes down to the tagging of the books.  And if some tags a book as a mystery that's really some erotica with a miniscule plot, there's little that can be done to exclude.  It's unlikely authors or publishers are going to tag a book as "porn". 

 

I thought more about it last night, and thought, maybe they could come up with ratings, like movies, but then you would get into who rates it and based on what?  And if it is rated not suitable for under 13, but maybe because it is a Stephen King book, but you're ok with your kid reading some Stephen King, you run into more problems, the books don't show up in a search.  Not to mention how to define what is suitable and what isn't.

 

 

They have an experimental idea going on over a Smashwords, called a Prude filter.  This is what the description is:

 

The prude filter is an experiment in opt-in filtering. When an author publishes a book, they specify whether or not they believe their book is suitable for readers under the age of 18. The Prude filter is for those readers who don't want to view adult material. Please note that by filtering out adult material, you not only filter out books with adult language, scenes and sex, but you also filter out books with no sexual content whatsoever.

 

I thought the last part was interesting, in that it seems to filter out both books with sexual content and those without, so I'm wondering, what do you wind up with in the search, cause a book either has sexual content or it doesn't, so what's in between.  Since this is a self publishing site basically, it is probably a little easier, but then, you as a parent, may or may not agree with the author's assessment of the suitability of the book.

 

I'd love to hear of some ideas on how this could realistically work.

Wordsmith
wordsandmelodies
Posts: 355
Registered: ‎08-07-2010
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

"Please note that by filtering out adult material, you not only filter out books with adult language, scenes and sex, but you also filter out books with no sexual content whatsoever. 

I thought the last part was interesting, in that it seems to filter out both books with sexual content and those without, so I'm wondering, what do you wind up with in the search, cause a book either has sexual content or it doesn't, so what's in between."

 

Something gratuitously and explicitly violent might fall into that category.  No sex, but still not appropriate for kids (or possibly teens.)  "Prudes" would likewise prefer to avoid it.

Distinguished Wordsmith
bklvr896
Posts: 4,497
Registered: ‎12-31-2009
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

 


wordsandmelodies wrote:

"Please note that by filtering out adult material, you not only filter out books with adult language, scenes and sex, but you also filter out books with no sexual content whatsoever. 

I thought the last part was interesting, in that it seems to filter out both books with sexual content and those without, so I'm wondering, what do you wind up with in the search, cause a book either has sexual content or it doesn't, so what's in between."

 

Something gratuitously and explicitly violent might fall into that category.  No sex, but still not appropriate for kids (or possibly teens.)  "Prudes" would likewise prefer to avoid it.


More than likely although even in your example, with the No sex, it appears that it would get filtered out.  In any event, I think it illustrates the difficulties in excluding this type of material, because it comes down to having to have something to filter on.

 

Contributor
dimples2x
Posts: 16
Registered: ‎01-01-2011
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

I wish there will be a future where you can pincode/password protect a book or a "shelf" before being able to access the contents....!

Frequent Contributor
WriterGurl1
Posts: 34
Registered: ‎10-09-2010

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

I think a rating system is a fantastic idea! For those who don't want adult content or violence, they could be made aware beforehand and on the flip side, those who don't want to read bible verses along with their romance can be alerted to that type of content as well. It's a win-win:smileyhappy:.

There is nothing better than getting lost in a great book!
If you enjoy romance, be sure to check out my novels:

An Unexpected Obsession  

A Dose of Reality


Frequent Contributor
lewellyn
Posts: 34
Registered: ‎09-04-2010
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

[ Edited ]

WriterGurl1 wrote:

I think a rating system is a fantastic idea! For those who don't want adult content or violence, they could be made aware beforehand and on the flip side, those who don't want to read bible verses along with their romance can be alerted to that type of content as well. It's a win-win:smileyhappy:.


Be careful or you may inspire Zondervan and Harlequin to team up and bring out something worse than the Love Inspired series... :smileyvery-happy:

Distinguished Wordsmith
NookonErik
Posts: 230
Registered: ‎02-19-2011

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

OKAY I'M OFFICIALLY ANNOYED!!

 

We read to our kids, 8 and 6, every night.

 

So I'm sitting with my little one and we're trying to pick out tonights story.

 

Gee, what do I while my kid is sitting on my lap?

 

I whip open the NC , go to Shop and search for "Bedtime Stories" - - well you know, because my son had such a good day and I thought I'd treat him to a new book.

 

B&N - FOR CRYING OUT SAKES! HOW ABOUT A FILTER ALREADY!

 

 

Not that anyone at B&N could bother to read this forum or anything . . . .

Nook Color Wallpapers
Distinguished Wordsmith
bklvr896
Posts: 4,497
Registered: ‎12-31-2009
0 Kudos

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

[ Edited ]
Distinguished Bibliophile
RHWright
Posts: 1,563
Registered: ‎10-21-2009

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

Given the number of under-18s that seem to have been gifted NOOKs (or bought them with their own hard-earned cash) it would be nice of there was an option to lock the shopping from those units to just the Kids' and Teen NOOKbook sections. A quick browse there didn't turn up any of the "erotic"-type titles that seem to creep into every other category, especially the free books.

 

Plenty of vampires, teen issues, and Twilight knock-offs...but they may objectionable for totally different reasons. :smileywink:

 

Beyond that, I think the old demarcation of simply childrens' vs. everything else is sufficient and no rating system is required. If you can't trust the child you have raised to browse appropriately in the adult section of the store (real or virtual), then don't let them browse unsupervised.

 

As a parent, former bookstore employee, and writer, that's how I feel: parents should be doing the "policing," not booksellers.

 

In general, I would agree that the search capabilities on the NOOK and on bn.com leave much to be desired, as far as easily getting to what you want/don't want. Some of this comes from the marketing departments at publishers who think their books have huge cross-genre appeal or just want any kind of exposure. But alot of it has to do with the really wimpy search abilities B&N provides, even with so-called "Advanced Search." In particular, the inability to exclude terms (andnot) from a broader general search.

 

But again, we do not need a "ratings system." For me, this is just the slippery slope to censorship and stifled creativity. Publishers and stores should make better efforts to inform about content (through better tagging, searching, reviews, ratings, etc.) but it is up to parents to know the maturity level of their child and what is appropriate, given that and their family's own personal (and somewhat subjective) set of values.

 

What I think is appropriate for my 16-year-old daughter may vastly differ from what you would let yours read. And that's OK (within pretty broad limits).

Distinguished Wordsmith
NookonErik
Posts: 230
Registered: ‎02-19-2011

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

On the one had I appreciate what you are saying, on the other not so much. Parents are the responsible parties . . . to a point. I wasn't letting my child search for a book on his own, we were doing it together.

 

If you'd bother to do a Shop search with my (Google-esque - shame on me) search string you'd plainly see that the kids books are mixed with the Erotica in the results.

 

The "brick and mortar" B&N stores aren't organized like that. Why why can't the NC Shop reflect the same level of organization?

 

Or better yet, give the parents a fighting chance to manage their kids experience!

 

 

Nook Color Wallpapers
Scribe
frantastk
Posts: 728
Registered: ‎06-29-2010

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

 


NookonErik wrote:

On the one had I appreciate what you are saying, on the other not so much. Parents are the responsible parties . . . to a point. I wasn't letting my child search for a book on his own, we were doing it together.

 

If you'd bother to do a Shop search with my (Google-esque - shame on me) search string you'd plainly see that the kids books are mixed with the Erotica in the results.

 

The "brick and mortar" B&N stores aren't organized like that. Why why can't the NC Shop reflect the same level of organization?

 

Or better yet, give the parents a fighting chance to manage their kids experience!

 

 


 

Not to downplay the issue you had with the search, but why didn't you just browse the kids' section instead of typing a search on the main shop page? I have a nook, not a nook color, so the shop my be different, though I'm not sure why.  When I go to the shop on my nook, I tap Browse, then I tap eBooks, then I tap Browse Subjects. Children's NOOKbooks is one of the subjects. If you do a search of the whole shop, naturally it's going to bring up all kinds of books. The seach at B&N does need an overhaul, but I've found it quite easy to browse through specific subjects. Though, not ideal on the nook, since I have to tap show covers and look at the teeny tiny covers on the nook lcd screen. It's probably a much better experience on the nook color. In adult sections, you may still end up with, um, questionable material, but the kids' section should only turn up kids' books.

 

Fran

Distinguished Wordsmith
NookonErik
Posts: 230
Registered: ‎02-19-2011

Re: Sexually explicit content/titles: Any way to filter those out so they don't show up?

Good point.

 

-also, I shouldn't have used their search function like it was a context dependent Google search.

 

The books are already tagged "Erotica" I simply would like a check box or some sort of Shop Setup screen that gives me, the parent/owner of the device the option to include these books in the search results.

Nook Color Wallpapers