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Sol12
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Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

I just receive my nook color in valentine's and i love it so far, but i dont like to be lied and B&N adverticed the new NC as 8G device when is really not. It happens that it only comes with 5G Storage, so whre are my other 3G?. I even call to custumer service to ask about it an they  didn't

have a clue of what i was talking about.

 

They even quote "8GB*** (up to 6000 eBooks) built in memory" that's on the nook color

specifications on this wesite. If yopu want to prove it by yourself go to this link 

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nookcolor/features/techspecs/index.asp?cds2Pid=35607

 

and then go to your device info and read what it says there.?

 

 

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

Some goes to the Nook OS and some is probably reserved for future use.  The remainder is for your stuff.  No digital storage device gives the full amount listed on the box.

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

Yes, it does have 8GB, but the remaining 3GB is being used.

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

From the B&N link provided:

 

8GB*** (up to 6000 eBooks) built in memory.

 

scroll down to bottom (emphasis added):

 

*** 1GB = 1 billion bytes; Actual formatted capacity is less.

 

The devil's in the details...

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Sol12
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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

Thanks for the quick response.

 

 

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

You also do not get the full amount with an external SD card. I added a 16GB card and was surprised to get only 14.8GB.  I guess the rest is overhead dealing with the file system (file allocation and such).

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

This question has come up several times and while the responses here have already answered the original post I'd like to add that it's no different than buying a new computer and finding out that your hard drive has some of it's space occupied by the OS. Also for advertising purposes storage capacities are listed using 1GB = 1billion bytes. The truth is that a GB quite a bit larger than that but that figure is used because it's a nice round figure. So when you pop that shiny new SD card into your PC it's going to report a lower capacity that what the box says. This is normal and simply a result of using two different definitions for GB.
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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

Question:  With the 5GB actual storage, will the NOOKcolor still hold 6,000 books?

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

Will the Nook Color get 6000 books? Yes as long as the books total size add up to the available. No one knows what kind of books you will load. If you load books that are half the size the of averege book you will get 12000 books if you do not load anything else.

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

 


CasperAZ wrote:

Question:  With the 5GB actual storage, will the NOOKcolor still hold 6,000 books?


I believe the wording is "up to 6,000 books," so when you get there, maybe you can let us know.  :smileywink:


 

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?


CasperAZ wrote:

Question:  With the 5GB actual storage, will the NOOKcolor still hold 6,000 books?


I'm probably a fairly typical reader, and most of my books are under 1 MB, so I would say there is a very good chance it will hold 6,000 books (if you don't load huge files such as magazines, etc.)

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?


BanjoBen wrote:
This question has come up several times and while the responses here have already answered the original post I'd like to add that it's no different than buying a new computer and finding out that your hard drive has some of it's space occupied by the OS. Also for advertising purposes storage capacities are listed using 1GB = 1billion bytes. The truth is that a GB quite a bit larger than that but that figure is used because it's a nice round figure. So when you pop that shiny new SD card into your PC it's going to report a lower capacity that what the box says. This is normal and simply a result of using two different definitions for GB.

True, but the GB definition issue does not explain most of the discrepancy. 8 billion bytes is really 7.45 GB. The remainder is used by the OS and apps (though I think the apps don't take much space.)

 

B&N should make it clear that the user has about 5 GB available.

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NookVine wrote:

You also do not get the full amount with an external SD card. I added a 16GB card and was surprised to get only 14.8GB.  I guess the rest is overhead dealing with the file system (file allocation and such).


 

Dan, the 'overhead' factor is a common misconception.  In the case of that 16GB card you referred to, that is:  16,000,000,000 bytes. 

 

When you divide that by 1024^3 (a gig), what that 16 (decimal) gigs turns in to is 14.9 binary or real Gigs.  There's no filesystem overhead involved.

 

In the case of the internal Flash on the NC, there are two factors at work.  The first is that the 8GB is actually subdivided into a system area and a user area, at 3GB and 5GB respectively.  Think of this like partitioning one physical hard-drive into several separate logical drives.

 

The system area, not surprisingly, is where all the system stuff goes, that makes your Nook work.  Not just the Android OS, but all the Apps you'll later run will go there.  As well as private data that keep them all running.  You generally don't see where that material is stashed. 

 

The user area, OTOH, is where all the user's books, magazines, newspapers, pictures, movies, and so forth are stored.  You can actually see everything there by browsing with the Library tool (My Files).  The "5GB" internal user area (4.66G, actually), can be supplemented by external SD cards.  Each with loads of space (up to "32GB"), and removable so others can be swapped in.  That in itself is prety cool, and something you won't find on an iP@d, for example.

 

One thing I would agree with is that B&N should make it clear that the User space is only 5GB, and the 8GB they refer to (while present) is not available to the user.  That avoids problems like users thinking they can load, say 4 movies of 2GB each on the device, and then find they can't even load 3.

 

- Mark

 

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

Desktops, laptops, netbooks, PDAs, MP3s, cellphones all list full capcity on the spec sheet. Power upand you will find some of that space is used by OS & sys files. Its a standard practice. :smileyhappy:
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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

maybe it's just me but I archive all books I read after... erm.. well.. reading them. 

 

I don't need or want them then.  Unless you want to read to again, why would you keep it?  And if you do want to read it again, you can re-download it, via wireless.

 

So, again, why do you need so much storage?  Do you have 5000 books?  Or are you just complaining to complain about something that will never, ever matter to you?

 

Plus, the memory is expandable up tro the current limits which is a whole friggin bunch more than provided stock. (sorry don't know the current values but you can buy additional memory at LEAST up to and additional 24gigs.. probably more.

 

I'm really not sure what you are complaining about. 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

@KingAl: If you actually read the post I made you'll see that I never claimed that the different definitions explained the discrepancy. The OS requires part of the storage capacity. That explains why users only have 5 GB of storage. Others had already pointed that out and my post supported that. Someone else brought up the discrepancy between the advertised storage capacity of SD cards and the actual capacity. That's where the different definitions come into play. Mark's post does a good job of explaining both in greater detail.
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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?

 


KingAl wrote:

BanjoBen wrote:
This question has come up several times and while the responses here have already answered the original post I'd like to add that it's no different than buying a new computer and finding out that your hard drive has some of it's space occupied by the OS. Also for advertising purposes storage capacities are listed using 1GB = 1billion bytes. The truth is that a GB quite a bit larger than that but that figure is used because it's a nice round figure. So when you pop that shiny new SD card into your PC it's going to report a lower capacity that what the box says. This is normal and simply a result of using two different definitions for GB.

True, but the GB definition issue does not explain most of the discrepancy. 8 billion bytes is really 7.45 GB. The remainder is used by the OS and apps (though I think the apps don't take much space.)

 

B&N should make it clear that the user has about 5 GB available.


Why?  HP never bothered to tell me that I would only have 899 GB available on my laptop instead of a TB.  All devices list the total storage capacity in their specs and not the actual.  Why should B&N be any different?

 

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Re: Does The nook color Really have 8G storage capacity?


Nallia wrote:

 


KingAl wrote:

BanjoBen wrote:
This question has come up several times and while the responses here have already answered the original post I'd like to add that it's no different than buying a new computer and finding out that your hard drive has some of it's space occupied by the OS. Also for advertising purposes storage capacities are listed using 1GB = 1billion bytes. The truth is that a GB quite a bit larger than that but that figure is used because it's a nice round figure. So when you pop that shiny new SD card into your PC it's going to report a lower capacity that what the box says. This is normal and simply a result of using two different definitions for GB.

True, but the GB definition issue does not explain most of the discrepancy. 8 billion bytes is really 7.45 GB. The remainder is used by the OS and apps (though I think the apps don't take much space.)

 

B&N should make it clear that the user has about 5 GB available.


Why?  HP never bothered to tell me that I would only have 899 GB available on my laptop instead of a TB.  All devices list the total storage capacity in their specs and not the actual.  Why should B&N be any different?

 


 If that laptop only came with 625 GB (which is basically the equivalent of the nookcolor's 5 GB available out of 8 GB),  I think many people would be complaining.

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101 GB of space is a significant amount, even if it isn't 37%.

 

Very, very few people complain about this on these boards.  I can't see that it's an issue with most users.  With the update(s) coming, it's no surprise that B&N set aside a large chunk of space.

 

I just can't get worked up about this.  Maybe ti's because I've been dealing with technology for over 20 years, maybe because I also own an original NOOK with it's significantly smaller storage capacity.

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CasperAZ wrote:

Question:  With the 5GB actual storage, will the NOOKcolor still hold 6,000 books?


Duh!

 

5,000,000,000 / 6,000 = 833,333.33333333 bytes per book

 

VERY few books are 800k in size, they are much smaller

 

You really could have done that yourself and answered your own question.

 

 

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