Extended Warranty & Rooting

[phoneboy]

I would think the extended warranty would cover replacement even if you rooted.

It covers Everything except loss.

Discuss?

[dawgdude]

I would think that it voids the warranty. Whether B&N can detect it is another question.

When the NC is rooted, the user has root access and can run any arbitrary program.

For example, a program can be run to overclock the CPU, which may overheat and

damage the NC.  This kind of thing is what B&N worries about.

By the way, running another version of android off of an SD card IS also rooting.

You can overclock the CPU while running a2.2 or a3.0 off the SD card.  So you

could potentially damage the NC that way. B&N may not know that this happened,

but it is still rooting.

[phoneboy]

I agree with all of that dawgdude.

My thoughts are this, If B&N will replace my NC if I drop it in the pool, run it over with my car, etc etc, then why would rooting void the warranty. I would think floating in a pool while using my NC is no less risky than over clocking my processor.In my mind floating round the pool is MORE careless.

Again JMO, I am curious to see what others think

[Grinchy1]

I would think that if your NC is rooted and you drop it & damage the screen, then the warranty should still cover the replacement, rooting your NC should not effect the warranty. I have a warranty on mine just not from B&N, but I don't remember reading any where that if  "root" or do anything like that to my NC my warranty is voided.

It says it is covered for everything BUT loss.

[yocalif]

I bought the 2 yr in store ext. warranty.  I never buy extended warranties, however when they said no questions asked, and transferable and I had learned about the rooting possibilities it was a no brainer.  Further I expect within one year they will come out with a NC2, so I am hoping that the 2 yr warranty will help me sell my current NC for a good price since it will have almost a full year warranty left

[mariel9898]

I think rooting doesn't void the warranty, but better legal minds than mine think it does. It's a gray area. "Might" void the warranty didn't stop me from rooting.

[phoneboy]

I waited patiently for someone to post this. I guess its true. Most on here complaining about or promoting rooting did not  READ the terms of covarage.  Lots of assuming goin on...

**See Items 4 & 17 **

1. LIMITATIONS OF COVERAGE This Contract Does Not Cover:
   1. Any equipment located outside the United States.
   2. Service or replacement required as a result of any alteration of the equipment, or repairs made by anyone other than a participating servicing dealer, an authorized service provider, its agents, distributors, contractors or licensees, or the use of supplies other than those recommended by the manufacturer.
   3. Damage or other equipment failure due to the failure to maintain the equipment according to the owner's manual instructions (except ADH claims), abuse, vandalism, theft, fire, flood, wind, freezing, power failure, inadequate power supply, unusual atmospheric conditions, acts of war, acts of God or other force majeure events. D. Service or replacement necessary because of improper storage, improper ventilation, reconfiguration of equipment, or the failure to place the equipment in an area that complies with the manufacturer's published space or environmental requirements.
   4. Any utilization of equipment that is inconsistent with either the design of the equipment or the way the manufacturer intended the equipment to be used. Any and all cases in which the manufacturer of the equipment would not honor any warranty regarding the equipment.
   5. Equipment used commercially or in a commercial setting or equipment sold as a rental.
   6. Cosmetic damage such as, but not limited to scratches, dents, rust, stains.
   7. Nonfunctional parts such as, but not limited to, plastics or finishes. Expendable or lost items, such as, but not limited to ear buds or head phones.
   8. Consumable items; consumable items are defined as any part that is considered consumable by the manufacturer and/or any item that is designed to be consumed (wear out) during the life of the Product, regardless if it is consumer replaceable or not.
   9. Pre-existing conditions (incurred prior to the effective date of coverage) known to You.
   10. In-warranty parts not provided or shipped by the manufacturer. Operational or mechanical failure covered by manufacturer's recall, manufacturer's warranty extension, or factory bulletins, (regardless of whether or not the manufacturer is doing business as an ongoing enterprise).
   11. Consequential damages as a result of malfunctioning of or damage to an operating part of the covered equipment, or damages as a result of any repairs or replacements under this agreement. Damages caused by delays in rendering service or loss of use during the period that the Product is at the authorized service center or otherwise awaiting parts are not covered. You are responsible for creating back-ups of all Your data and software on a regular basis.
   12. Operational or mechanical failure which is not reported prior to expiration of this Contract.
   13. Equipment sold without a manufacturer's warranty or sold "as is" is not covered.
   14. Loss or damage as a result of violation of existing federal, state and municipal codes including, but not limited to power surge and spike resulting from a violation of those codes.
   15. Transit or delivery damage, damage caused by packing, unpacking, assembly, installation, or removal. Short circuit, loss of use, lack of maintenance, bodily injury, adjustments, periodic checkups or maintenance.
   16. Any cost recoverable under an insurance policy (in such case, this Contract will cover any applicable deductible).
   17. Any software, including but not limited to, application programs, network programs, upgrades, formatting of any kind, databases, files, drivers, source code, object code or proprietary data, or any support, configuration, installation or reinstallation of any software or data.
   18. Equipment where the serial number does not match the Product covered under this Contract.

[phoneboy]

To save time I will say, IF you can flash the sys back to stock you should be OK. Not to mention that if say your display burns out or NC wont boot B&N will be hard pressed to prove it was rooted.

Bottom line, You take the chance. Be aware and be prepared to live by your decision.

[phoneboy]

Bump 

[dvdcatalyst]

Since you want attention, here is some food for thought:

Rooting will enable you to install overclocked kernels, which, while unlikely, are perfectly capable of destroying your NOOKcolor.

Flashing excessively, going from NOOKcolor to Froyo to Honeycomb to Cyanogen and back again puts extra wear and tear on the flash memory.

Screen DPI mods are capable of running the screen at unsupported specs, possibly causing damage.

So while a simple root might not be harmful, it enables you to do a lot more harm to the hardware.

Last years iPhone Jailbreak Lawsuit made jailbreaking (=rooting) on the iPhone legal, however, regardless of if it is legal or not, Apple still cancels out your warranty if detected. I'm sure the same goes for the NOOKcolor.

[Grinchy1]

~~~~Bump~~~

[phoneboy]

Hey I'm a narcissist, what can I say  

Actually I was just curious why people continue to argue over something that has NO argument.

Now discussing weather you can sneak a defective NC that has been rooted past B&N is another story.

I say odds are  25%  you will get burned. And yes, I made that number up just now  lol

[my9cats]

IMO rooting my NC is not worth the risk of voiding the warrenty.

Besides, if my craving for apps is so intense I can always use my

smartphone. In fact a lot of the apps I downloaded on my cell I removed because

they were't worth downloading in the first place.

If the new update provides an apps market, then fine and the warrenty is

still good. To void out my warrenty just to have an app is just not worth it.

[Grinchy1]

@my9cats, and that is your right. A lot of people feel they don't need or want to root their NC. And of course no one has to. It is a matter of choice. But like phoneboy said, you take your chances. If you feel the chance is worth it then do it. But you don't and that is fine. I have not yet, mostly because I am a big chicken & not computer friendly.

Plus like you, I have a Android phone that I have only had a few months and can get all the apps I need on it now. So I really don't need to take the chance right now. I may one tho, I am not sure. If I do, I will be worried about the warranty, but for now, I am going to wait and see what B&N has in store for us. I never expected my NC to be more then what it is. But the fact that it can be is awesome.BTW..... I LOVE my NookColor!!!

[dvdcatalyst]

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phoneboy wrote:

Hey I'm a narcissist, what can I say  

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I figured either that, or somehow you are addicted to these forums. Everytime I visit, there are new threads with your name on it, LOL.

But you do keep things interesting (and seem to be able to push those "I hate my NC" threads to page 2 pretty quickly too.

Anyway, with rooting, its pretty simple. If you make your own modifications, being a simple "root" or take the thing apart and build it into a Nintendo SNES controller or something like that, it seems pretty obvious to me that you will lose your waranty. Now the Extended Waranty I am not sure about. If it covers "accidental" damage, like dropping it when the NC2 is out so you get a free upgrade, then it might be covered.

If it would cover damage like the neighbour running over it with his Hummer, then I guess rooting doesn't really apply as a factor to refuse replacement.

[phoneboy]

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dvdcatalyst wrote:

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phoneboy wrote:

Hey I'm a narcissist, what can I say  

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I figured either that, or somehow you are addicted to these forums. Everytime I visit, there are new threads with your name on it, LOL.

But you do keep things interesting (and seem to be able to push those "I hate my NC" threads to page 2 pretty quickly too.

Anyway, with rooting, its pretty simple. If you make your own modifications, being a simple "root" or take the thing apart and build it into a Nintendo SNES controller or something like that, it seems pretty obvious to me that you will lose your waranty. Now the Extended Waranty I am not sure about. If it covers "accidental" damage, like dropping it when the NC2 is out so you get a free upgrade, then it might be covered.

If it would cover damage like the neighbour running over it with his Hummer, then I guess rooting doesn't really apply as a factor to refuse replacement.

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I thought that as well. Then I read the terms. (Cut n pasted 4 hrs back in this thread) It looks like they can refuse if they can prove you rooted. Still funny that I can set it on the gas grill while cooking steaks or try n read in the shower, or give to the teething 2 yr old and watch him puke up the strained peas and they will replace it but altering the software is not covered. 

Hey ya'll watch this $hit. I'm rootin my nookcolor...LOL

[dvdcatalyst]

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phoneboy wrote:

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I thought that as well. Then I read the terms. (Cut n pasted 4 hrs back in this thread) It looks like they can refuse if they can prove you rooted. Still funny that I can set it on the gas grill while cooking steaks or try n read in the shower, or give to the teething 2 yr old and watch him puke up the strained peas and they will replace it but altering the software is not covered. 

Hey ya'll watch this $hit. I'm rootin my nookcolor...LOL

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if you "overcook" the memorychips, it's a "well-done" deal imho

[phoneboy]

I prefer med-rare but then I like livin on the edge 

[dvdcatalyst]

still kickin' for me

[Piechow]

I posted in another thread because honestly I was considering both sides and might have wanted to root my nook threw the SD card. I found: delete, destroy or alter in any manner the proprietary rights notices, markings and legends appearing on your NOOKcolor, or the Digital Content, Software or Service under Legal on the nook color site. In your opinion dose this say your warrenty is void because it lists alter/software?