Nook Color 2 - Code Name Acclaim (?)

[deemure]

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schatzieWI wrote:
That's a bogus statement telling us to go to the publishers. BN should be out negotiating for content. If digital is the future and BN is leading the way, along with Amazon and Apple, they should have a consortium to work with publishers to get more content. I would think authors would love this, new life for their out of print books.

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It isn't bogus. B&N does not know what all customers or any one customer might want. So, they will first go for the type of content that has most often sold in the past, or that is presumed to sell well. And whoever said they aren't working to get more content? But, out of print books are not necessarily big sellers and can end up costing money. More often they need to be scanned in, require more tweaking and formatting even if already in some sort of digital format. And then they may ultimately only have lackluster sales. Why would B&N expend time, money, and energy trying to convince publishers without an obvious customer demand? And, as far as Amazon having certain titles, well surprise, surprise. They have been at it a bit longer and have had more money to throw at this. Titles that are already being sold elsewhere will hopefully come to nooks. But, if it's something you want, then tell both B&N and the publisher about it. B&N isn't going to just do it on their own, because nobody has the time to go and compare book by book to see what others are selling that they aren't. And good luck with that consortium idea. All that would mean is money taken out of the 30% profit margin retailers gross.

[Schwa]

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schatzieWI wrote:
That's a bogus statement telling us to go to the publishers. BN should be out negotiating for content. If digital is the future and BN is leading the way, along with Amazon and Apple, they should have a consortium to work with publishers to get more content. I would think authors would love this, new life for their out of print books.

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Barnes and Noble and in turn the Nook store is a very large venue.  Publishers and authors not willing to put their product out into any large markets and venues possible are not doing themselves any favors.

Not saying that B&N shouldn't do this, it would only help.  But seriously, the customers are already here.  When anybody here says "contact the publshers, developers, and/or authors" what they mean is "let them know people want to buy their stuff".  I would think actual customers hold more sway than a marketing pitch.

[Schwa]

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normysmom wrote:
You knoooo-oooow? I could make a PowerPoint slide saying pretty much anything any of you want it to say about the upcoming new releases from just about anywhere. I can make it look really authentic, too...just enough spelling errors to seem "real". And...I can find an "insider" somewhere... maybe... inside? Just sayin'! ;0)

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While it is still nothing but rumor, speculation and conjecture.  CNET has a pretty good track record 

[Schwa]

Oh boy, 3 posts in a row, sorry.

What's the possiblity of at least the Acclaim and maybe the Encore running Ice Cream Sandwich?

[deemure]

Schwa, you are exactly right. Barnes and Noble can only tell publishers, "We want to sell it," but customers tell them, "We will buy it." I think I know who is more important, ultimately. B&N can and I am sure does ask for certain things, but it is still a publishing issue. As your post points out, publishers would have to be totally ignorant not to see the potential. But, they also have to see sales.

[BrownskinsCD]

From Tech Cruch today -

• Sources also suggest that Barnes & Noble is on the verge of launching the Nook Color 2 next month. In fact, that may play into Amazon’s timing here. They’re announcing the device well over a month before it will be available. Sources suggest that the Nook Color 2 will feature a 1.2 GHz OMAP chip, with a focus on displaying multimedia content better. There will also be a focus on streaming content and a big increase in the number of apps available, we’re told.

• The Nook Color 2 will also be built on top of Gingerbread, Android 2.3, we hear. That would put it ahead of the Kindle Fire, which is believed to be based on Android 2.1. Again, neither of them look anything like Android, but the APIs available are key when it comes to the Android version.

• And then there’s the issue of the price. While the Nook Color 2 is expected to retail for the same $250 that the current Nook Color does (and the original one may drop to $200), the pricing of the Kindle Fire is a bit of a mystery right now.

[deemure]

Interesting, to say the least. But, is the new color kindle so far really being called Fire? There are so many things wrong with that in my opinion. First I envision an owner saying "I have books on my Fire" which elicits burning book imagery. Then, there's the whole idea of kindle and fire. Kindling gets destroyed in a fire. I just remember all the kindle owners that came here and laughed about the nook's name when it was first introduced. At least it issomething people have used in a good way about books-like book nook.

[Nom-de-Nook]

Diagree about the name.  Fire also connotes hot and speed.  These are definitely things Amazon wants people to believe about their device, that is is the "hottest" thing out there and that it is fast.  Especially fast as my guess is this will be their focus for delivery of Amazon Video.

[Omnigeek]

There's a whole lot of errant speculation from a single Powerpoint slide.

First of all, the way I read the details in Digital Reader (not his speculations), the current Nook Color would be maintained at its pricing point.  There is no information (beyond a lot of wishful thinking and speculation) to support the idea of substantial change to the hardware for the current Nook Color.

The Nook Color 2 -- if you want to call it that -- would be the more expensive Acclaim which is likely to be larger, giving B&N two sizes of color ereader tablets, similar to how Samsung is marketing 2 sizes of Galaxy tablets.

Time will tell what B&N is really going to do but an annual hardware redesign is hard to justify economically unless you have a VERY large market (like cell phones) or look at the redesign costs as investment to gain or avoid loss of market share for something that more than offsets the costs of redesign and production.  On the other hand, introducing a larger size gives them a toehold in the market for people that really need a larger display (magazines and textbooks, game applications, etc.) and lets them alternate new hardware releases (small e-ink reader, small color reader, large color reader) on more economical time scales.

[deemure]

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Nom-de-Nook wrote:

Diagree about the name.  Fire also connotes hot and speed.  These are definitely things Amazon wants people to believe about their device, that is is the "hottest" thing out there and that it is fast.  Especially fast as my guess is this will be their focus for delivery of Amazon Video.

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We can agree to disagree of course, but since I posted I got more curious about it, as to whether this was really going to be the name. Found I am not alone. Probably so for you as well. I am sure they are wanting it to catch fire, but it just reminds me if an error Chevy made when selling a certain car in Mexico. They didn't rename the Nova and no va means no go or won't go in Spanish. Hopefully the Fire won't have a faulty cord.

[Mark_OB1 Bibliophile]

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From Tech Crunch today -

• Sources also suggest that Barnes & Noble is on the verge of launching the Nook Color 2 next month. There will also be... a big increase in the number of apps available, we’re told.

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Which will be materializing from where, precisely?  Sounds like BS to me.  While I do believe they would be willing to promise (or imply) that there will be "lots more apps", I'm extremely dubious about them delivering on that.

But they have to do something.  When Amazon debuts their "e-reader tablet", right out of the gate with with 30 apps in their AppStore for every one in the NC AppShop (after half a year), that will invite ugly comparisons amongst reviewers.  So B&N will be desperate to do whatever they can to counter that.

Their recent alliance with Appcelerator will help, but that's not going to produce results overnight.  The sad fact is that, as far as Apps are concerned, B&N blew it big time.  They simply had the wrong people calling the shots (and still do).

- Mark

[Mark_OB1 Bibliophile]

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deemure wrote:

Hopefully the Fire won't have a faulty cord.

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[Mark_OB1 Bibliophile]

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Omnigeek wrote:

There's a whole lot of errant speculation from a single Powerpoint slide.

There is no information (beyond a lot of wishful thinking and speculation) to support the idea of substantial change to the hardware for the current Nook Color.

The Nook Color 2 -- if you want to call it that -- would be the more expensive Acclaim which is likely to be larger, giving B&N two sizes of color ereader tablets, similar to how Samsung is marketing 2 sizes of Galaxy tablets.

Time will tell what B&N is really going to do but an annual hardware redesign is hard to justify economically...

On the other hand, introducing a larger size gives them a toehold in the market for people that really need a larger display (magazines and textbooks, game applications, etc.) and lets them alternate new hardware releases (small e-ink reader, small color reader, large color reader) on more economical time scales.

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Agreed, on every count.  Took the words right out of my mouth.

- Mark

[Mark_OB1 Bibliophile]

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Schwa wrote:

Oh boy, 3 posts in a row, sorry.

You're in a heap of trouble, now. 

What's the possiblity of at least the Acclaim and maybe the Encore running Ice Cream Sandwich?

None whatsoever.

- Mark

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[BrownskinsCD]

So, whether our envisioned specs for NC2 were ludicrous or whimsical, fact of the matter is, BN has to compete with features and services to retain its current market before it moves to Amazon.

New Kindle Touch at $99, Non-touch sp. offer version at $79, Kindle Fire that looks like the Playbook but with all of Amazon's services accessible at $199!!!

BN, what do you have in store for us, your current loyal followers?

[flyingtoastr Scribe]

Amazon's new motto: if you can't innovate, loss lead!

[robert93]

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BrownskinsCD wrote:

BN, what do you have in store for us, your current loyal followers?

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Shhhh, not now, they're counting their profits and laughing!  You have already bought the device, anything they do now costs them money.  On the other hand, if you dont keep buying books from them, they lose out on the future prifits of those sales... hmmmmmm.

[Schwa]

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BrownskinsCD wrote:

New Kindle Touch at $99, Non-touch sp. offer version at $79, Kindle Fire that looks like the Playbook but with all of Amazon's services accessible at $199!!!

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$199 + $79/year

And I can understand that people want deals, good for Amazon for offering them, but I don't want a device with force-fed advertisments, so that adds $20 to all the e-ink Kindle prices as announced.

Just pointing out some true costs.  I do agree that B&N better be bringing their A-game with whatever they are announcing soon.

[keriflur]

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flyingtoastr wrote:

Amazon's new motto: if you can't innovate, loss lead!

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I'm pretty sure that was their old motto too.