Nook App for iphone 3G?

[srwnc]

I'm in the process of buying a eReader and prefer the Nook glowlite over the Kindle touch. I was planning to buy one once available at end of May, but I just discovered some bad news in that the nook app will not run on my iphone 3G. The kindle app will, which I have installed. Y do U not have the nook app for 3G? I want to be able to use both my iphone & eReader for my library of books. Do U have a nook app planned for the 3G?

B&N will lose my business if I cannot get the Nook app for the iPhone 3G. I don't care for the Kindle eReader as well as the Nook, but having access via my iphone is important. I would suggest B&N do something quickly because I think that is a concern for many iphone 3G users.

[keriflur]

You may get more responses in the forum for reading apps on devices like the iphone:

http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/t5/NOOK-Free-Reading-Apps-Technical/bd-p/eReaders

[bklvr896]

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srwnc wrote:

I'm in the process of buying a eReader and prefer the Nook glowlite over the Kindle touch. I was planning to buy one once available at end of May, but I just discovered some bad news in that the nook app will not run on my iphone 3G. The kindle app will, which I have installed. Y do U not have the nook app for 3G? I want to be able to use both my iphone & eReader for my library of books. Do U have a nook app planned for the 3G?

B&N will lose my business if I cannot get the Nook app for the iPhone 3G. I don't care for the Kindle eReader as well as the Nook, but having access via my iphone is important. I would suggest B&N do something quickly because I think that is a concern for many iphone 3G users.

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Is the iPhone 3G different from a regular iPhone?  Because my friend reads on her iPhone all the time, so maybe it's a different version?

[srwnc]

The nook app states it is for iphone 3GS and up and requires ios 4.3. The reason is Apple dropped support for the 3G(2nd generation) iphone and will not provide ios 4.3 for it.
If B&N did supply the nook app for the 3G at one time it is no longer listed in itunes, so where has it gone and Y hasnlt B&N provided a link for it. The current link is for the 3GS and up

[keriflur]

The iphone 3g came out, what, 4 years ago?  And we've got the 3gs, the 4 and the 4s, and there's a 4g iphone (maybe the iphone 5?) expected this year.  So I'm going to guess that the population of iphone 3g users is dwindling, and as it's not really a good strategy to develop for products that went EOL years ago, I would not expect B&N to develop an app for this phone.

[srwnc]

But Apple was still selling the 3G 6months before dropping support for it. So we as consumers are suppose to throw away perfectly good items every 6 months or so becuse a new generation is available for features I don't need or want?

This is short sighted by Apple, but also for B&N for no providing the app for 3G. I am a professional Software Engineer and deal with this on a day to day basis. I would assume there is not much that would have to be done to make the app run on 3G, relly we are not talking rocket science here. I do it all the time in the products we sell. It takes forever before we stop support for older releases, otherwise we'd be out of business. B&N will miss out on my business because of this. I will be using a Kindle which does support the 3G, Amazon at least did one thing correctly.

[keriflur]

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srwnc wrote:

But Apple was still selling the 3G 6months before dropping support for it.

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Yes, and they dropped support for it, what, two years ago?

You are asking B&N to build an app for a phone that the maker no longer supports, that they stopped supporting years ago, that they declared end-of-life years ago.

If they'd had an app for the iphone 3G, and it would still work now if B&N hadn't pulled it, then yes, I'd say B&N is in the wrong and should keep that app available.  But two years ago B&N decided to convert from .pdb to .epub, and they re-built all their apps.  So even if there was an app for this device, it would no longer work with the current books that B&N is selling.

[srwnc]

yup so I guess I'll just run out and buy a new iphone just so I can run the nook app, yeah right give me a break. I'd be buying a new phone every 6 months or so. Not that this is a B&N concern, but if I did buy a new phone it wouldn't be an Apple product. I'll be swtiching to a Droid which is Java based and won't have all these propriety concerns that Apple locks you into. I know first hand because the software company I work for use to be a major propriety company, but no longer because it was bad business long term. They are now the largest opensource company in the industry and leading that charge very very succesfully proven by its record growth over the last few years.
If I really wanted too I could download a version of ios4.3 that some prgrammers wrote that will run on the 3G. You see there are many people who still have iphone 3Gs and do not intend of giving them up just to have the newest latest gadeget that not needed. This also proves it's not a big deal to make it work on a 3G. Anyway, I decided to get the Kindle now because of this, so I'm now happy that I'll have an eReader that I can also use on my iphone )

[keriflur]

Good for you.  Glad you found a product that works for you.

[srwnc]

Thank-you. Although I prefer the Nook physical device over the Kindle, Amazon definitely has better content, quality and prices than B&N. I already purchased several ebooks and downloaded them to my iphone. I'm also waiting for my Kindle to arrive.
Thanks to everyone support on this. I'm just sorry B&N wasn't up to the task.

[Byteguy]

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srwnc wrote:

... Amazon definitely has better content, quality and prices than B&N...

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Content? except for Amazon published works, is the same or less on Amazon.  Some big authors are taking longer to get to Amazon ebooks because of their free-lending option.

Quality?  For an ebook?  The publisher supplies the file.  If there's a difference (I would be interested to hear WHAT difference), it's the publisher that did it.

Price?  Well, the current price-fixing lawsuit points out that all the sellers have to agree to the Agency Model designed by Apple (the same people that won't support your phone anymore) where the publisher sets the price and nobody is allowed to sell it at any other price.  The only times we see any real difference is when someone is delayed updating their price on the website or the book is not published by one of the big publishing houses (which control the vast majority of publishing).

But, no matter what, I'm glad you found a solution that works for your ancient device.  My lovely Android phone runs the Nook app perfectly so I didn't have to settle for a Kindle.  Too bad you have to wait for it.  My daughter and I enjoyed walking into our local B&N, trying out covers, and walking out with her own Nook 20 minutes later.

[srwnc]

Thanks for the info. I don't agree, but that's why we have choices in a free market.

I could get a Kindle today if I went to a brick and motor retailer, but I ordered from amazon and happy to wait because I can use my iphone that I already have and when the Kindle arrives it already setup with my account, just tuen it on and read. But if I did still wanted the NOOK I'd have to wait till at least the end of May because the glowlight is out of stock till then. Like I stated from the beginning I prefer the NOOK device over the Kindle, but that's because of the glowlight feature, other than that there's not much difference to me and with the Kindle I get other features that the Nook does not have. Without the glowlight I prefer the Kindle.

Yes there is a difference in scanning quality, it depends on the soruce. Also Amazon has more ebook offerings, B&N is still in catchup.

Thanks again for all the help

[keriflur]

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srwnc wrote:

Also Amazon has more ebook offerings, B&N is still in catchup.

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What makes you believe that?

[srwnc]

just google and you will find many facts about that. But it probably depends on what you read. I read mostly classic literature, foreign literature, ancient literature, research& technical writings and the such. Amazon has more ebooks in these categories and more obscure books. I have done searches in both and Amazon usually has what I am looking for when B&N doesn't. In time, B&N may also be up to par with Amazon in this category, but for now Amazon definitely has the edge. If you just read best sellers, pop, etc then it probably doesn't matter at all, both are the same for those categories.

Keep Reading no matter the medium, its all good

[msmoonlite]

Does Amazon have a message board where you can talk about your displeasure with BN not developing an app for a phone that is considered end of life? The bonus is I'm sure you can talk about all of the great content people can find just by getting a Kindle and checking on Amazon.

[srwnc]

Thanks for the info. I'm sorry to hear of your disappointment with B&N content. I originally came to this blog because the B&N support rep sent me here in hopes I would find an answer to my original request which was a nook app for iphone 3G. I had conflicting answers from B&N support, some stating 3GS and later only supported and others stating 3G was supported, but with an earlier rel of the nook app and they proveided with the rel # & verbage that stated 3G supported, so yes at one time the nook app was supported on the 3G. So the advise was to come to this blog and see if anyone knew where I could get a copy because itunes did not have the older nook app rel. I am not inclined to blog, but really wanted to get the app, so gave it a try. Several people were helpful and others just immature rhetoric as to Y I avoid blogs in the first place. I was finished, but some people kept asking me questions and I feel abliged to answer them to the best of my ability. That is just being polite and respectful to a fellow human. But now, since I am using the Kindle and Kindle app for 3G, I will no longer be monitoring this blog; therefore, any further questions will be unanswered by myself. I would advise ,as this person did, to go to Amazon and other Kindle resources to get further info on the Kindle and Amazon contnent.

Best to all

[Ya_Ya]

I have a question for you?  Why did you post this question here - in the forum for support for a NOOK device, the NOOK Simple Touch, rather than in the proper place - the NOOK Apps forum?  

Oh wait, you posted it there, too.

(It's difficult to take you seriously as you murder the English lanuauge, for whatever that might be worth.)

[Byteguy]

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srwnc wrote:

....  So the advise was to come to this blog and see if anyone knew where I could get a copy because itunes did not have the older nook app rel. ...

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Nobody would have a copy.  Apple is a closed-world.  If it isn't on the iTunes market you can't install it on your phone (unless you root it).

Apple angered a lot of people a year or so ago when they went through and deleted a ton of apps that had "buy now" buttons that did NOT go through Apple (and didn't give Apple a cut).  There was no way to get those apps until the developers redirected the buttons and got new versions approved.

[nlstein]

Apple routinely stops supporting very old hardware -- nothing new. B&N doesn't support your phone because in the world of cell phones it is old and there aren't enough people still using it that need the software to make it worthwhile. The removal of apps that violated Apple's terms was inevitable. People might not like it but it was a stated rule that some software developers violated. Apple had every right. Rules are rules and it's their ball and their rules. If this bothers you enough to switch to what many feel is an inferior product it's your decision. But blaming Apple and or B&N is just silly. Both companies are following what they (and many business people smarter than me) feel is the prudent path. While the world of B&N is still undecided there can be little doubt as to Apple's business sense. Some of the above are facts and some are my opinion. You can disagree with my opinion but not the facts.

[Ya_Ya]

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nlstein wrote:
The removal of apps that violated Apple's terms was inevitable. People might not like it but it was a stated rule that some software developers violated. Apple had every right. Rules are rules and it's their ball and their rules. 

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I take exception to the way the bolded is phrased.

Apple changed the rules and B&N's software which had previously adhered to Apple's rules and had not changed consequently violated the new rules.  This resulted in NOOK (and others) being pulled from the market.

Otherwise, I agree.  (Your phrasing suggested that B&N and other developers ignored an existing set of rules.)

When the "new" NOOK (compliant with Apple's new rules)  was released, there was no  iPhone 3G version, probably because B&N didn't see enough market share to make it worth their development dollars.