02-06-2011 02:58 PM
a 14 yr old boy is who would look up porn on this item. We have filters and passwords on our network and only have a computer in our main living space to help protect our children. Our 14 yr old will be 15 this month and got a nook for Christmas. I asked B&N employees about the web browser and was also told it wasnt really a full browser and wouldnt be an issue, shown how to block purchasing with a pw etc. We allowed the browser to be connected to look for books to spend his gift card on and currently have had his device in our closet since dec 28. The browser will quite nicely dispay lesbians. (he didn't want to see any boys, only girls and thought that was the best way.)
My son is an honor student taking all advanced courses, active in swim and band. I did not see that the item was intended for adults only. The employees quite nicely advise you on how the nook is the only e-reader with the lend me option allowing you to share books. I was told how handy that would be for my children to still be able to share favorite series with each other and how much cheeper and easier it would be to get schools required reading books with the device. So many teens and pre-teens around here already have these devices I feel in a way it is a cop-out to throw "intended bor adult use only" into the mix and think that is good enough. I know I need to be responsible for my child but the industries out there are making it more and more difficult to protect yet allow the technological growth of a child.
Some people might question a child playing a war game but not allowed a little t&a, its not that. We are not against the knowledge of sex or how the body looks without clothing. If he was just downloading national geographics to see some skin I wouldnt really care. It is the availability of porn and what porn represents that makes it so inappropriate and illegal at their ages. I have 3 boys, all avid readers and really was excited about the possibilities described to me with this device. Kids are patient if they want to get something they cant get somewhere else. It does not matter if it is only in black and white and only on wi-fi they will look for opportunity. That is the nature of humans. You are also ostracized if you do not have or do not know how to use some piece of technology.
02-06-2011 03:23 PM
a bolt from the blue...???
02-06-2011 04:34 PM
I'm not sure why you're disappointed. You would be in the same position if he has a laptop, iPod Touch, tablet, cell phone.
Can you block his internet access with a password on his nook? De-register the nook and allow him to use his gift cards and then you can sideload his purchases?
Or put some rules on nook usage and let him know if he breaks them, it will go back in the closet.
Because you are right - kids are patient and they know how to get around and/or bend the rules. If he doesn't have a nook, laptop, iPod Touch, table, cell phone, you can bet he has friends who have those items, and parents who are not as vigilant.
05-01-2011 12:04 AM
I think you might be surprised....
I have a 14 year old who does not have permission to access the internet on his Nook. We do not give him the WEP key info to sign on to our secured router and we have a purchase protected password....
HOWEVER, all that protection obviously wasn't enough since apparently there was an unsecured connection that we cannot control.
So... imagine our surprise when checking the browser history and finding explicit web pages throughout.
Curious teenage boys... that's who try to get online!
I'm very disappointed that there are not any parental password options to disable web access altogether!
11-01-2011 12:46 AM
Thank you for some beneficial information! In just a few lines you did more for me than two hours on google & amazon & B&N put together! I will look into the sony Reader, because it apparently will allow me to see what is going on with my credit card, not to mention to limit what the kiddo can download.
12-26-2011 09:40 AM
I have to reply to some of the threads in this post. Since when is it backward, controlling, or moronic to guide what your child is exposed to? One of the most disconcerting comments I read seemed to indicate that seeking parental controls wasn't worthwhile since children can access things through their friend's pc's etc. That is a nice way to relinquish responsibility for being a parent but that's not an option.
If you don't believe reading vampire trilogies is a healthy endeavor for you child I don't see why one should not be able to restrict those from their child's reading list. Or, how about books about making and using weapons?
Yes, it is difficult to eliminate all of the avenues through which a child can access materials that are unhealthy for their growth and learning. That does not mean as parents we should not try. If companies like Barnes & Noble were intelligent marketers they would develop parental controls and open a whole new market to younger children who are being drawn in by video games and other poor uses of their brain instead of reading. A child with a nook that has parental controls to ensure the reading is age appropriate may just decide books are what they'd like to focus on in their leisure time.
So stop being so indignant and wrongly turning this into a free speech Constitution like issue. Placing parental controls on what our children access is a way to ensure our children value the things they should, like free speech because they read about it instead of spending their time reading about things that frighten them, teach them to create things that hurt others, etc.
To those who are trying to be responsible parents who love their children I applaud you for wanting to provide them with a reader while alse ensuring their journey is a healthy trip toward becoming a happy informed individual as an adult.
12-29-2011 11:16 PM
Thank you for all the comments. The B&N store was very clear with me that there were no parental controls, but I didnt believe there wasnt SOMETHING that could be configured. Now, I see that they have given us no options. So, first thing tomorrow morning, they will get their nook back. Hope there are other options. For the record, many mobile devices DO have parental controls. I hope B&N will reach a point when they realize that they can make more money by not ignoring families. Note, you will find the same problem with Amazon Fire. Here's my question: knowing that so much of the web is filled with porn...why didnt these companies allow "net nanny" or other software controls access for controls?
12-30-2011 10:11 AM
As a another parent, I feel I have a personal perspective to weigh in with.
I can appreciate that some parents might wish to have tools to restrict the use of the browser on Nook devices. (Originally the N1E, now the NC and NT.)
I take a different approach. If I didn't feel I could trust (most of) my 16-year-old daughter's choices, I wouldn't give her her own web-enabled devices. Will she make mistakes and have lapses of judgement? Entirely possible. But so do adults. It's called life and it's called learning.
We've raised her to the best of our abilities, instilling what we believe are appropriate values and skills. When she became old enough to access the Internet on her own, without supervision, there were discussions about our rules and expectations. And without special tools, we are able to confidently monitor her online behavior.
I recently gave my original N1E to her. Again (and I'm sure this is beginning to bore her a little, but hey that's parenting) we discussed what the expectations were and how to avoid what she didn't want to see online, as well as a warning that some stuff she can't avoid. (Like sketchy titles when you search for fantasy titles.)
As to those with 14-year-old boys...well, I've been one and there's not much you can do. Raging hormones, underdeveloped judgement, low impulse control---the temptation is there to just put them on lockdown for the next decade.
It may be tough to hear that your sweet little boy is growing up, but it's time to face the fact that he wants to see girls naked. He probably doesn't even know why, he just does. Now, you can try and fence him off from the world, or you can try to channel that energy as well as teach him about the difference between fantasy (what he may see on TV or the Internet) and reality (having a real relationship with a girl). It's not a comfortable discussion on either side, but you'll make it through.
If your kid is acting out and having a problem with it, you may need to take away the web-enabled devices, restrict him from seeing that "friend" with less concerned parents, or whatever you need to do.
Each parent-child relationship is unique. And I agree that some might find parental controls useful. I don't. What works for us may not work for you and vice versa.
Veering to the point that "the web is filled with porn," my experience is that you kinda have to go searching for it. It doesn't just pop up when you open your browser, saying, "here, have some unwanted porn." So, in many cases, intent precedes presentation.
Rather than worry about parental controls and what B&N can do there, I would rather push for better categorization and restrictions on what searches on bn.com (and the shop function on the nooks) present erotic content. It's merely aggravating when mysteries show up in a search for science fiction; it's angering when erotica shows up when you search for, well, just about anything.
Erotica has its place on the site, I only find it objectionable when it shows up in searches for which it is not directly relevant.
01-03-2012 06:34 PM
Exactly that. Banned Books have some great liturature, but trashy romance novels and the sownward spiral need to stay out of my house of teens! Yes, they may get it at someone else's house, but they and their friends are not getting it on my watch!
01-04-2012 02:24 PM
My Christmas purchased nook color for my 13 year old daughter is being returned today, after I did a search for Netflix (to download the app for her) and the 5th result and 7th results were porn... on BN.com (using the shop option on the nook). After calling the company they politely told me there was nothing they could do. I trust my daughter not to actively search for inappropriate things, but to find it on a harmless search is a different issue. It's to bad, because I thought BN was better than that, and she really enjoys reading and playing her apps.
It is also upsetting to me that I was told at the time of purchase that there were parental controls. I was also told there was a feature that would send me an email to confirm or deny purchases she wants to make... not true. I guess they will tell you anything to get you to walk out the door with your new $200.00 gift, even if under false pretenses.
01-15-2012 04:41 PM
First, all of you who are suggesting that you use a router to block unwanted sites apparently don't understand how impractical that is. First, porn sites go up every day and there are thousands of them. How can you keep your block list up to date or even have the time to build out the thousands of sites out there? There's no way you can effectively block porn sites dynamically with a router because it has no ability to detect content. A virus-checker with parental control capabiity will do that but there's nothing like that for the Nook.
Second, even if you set up a new account with B&N for your kid, you still can't prevent your kid from browsing adult content on the B&N site to my knowledge.
And yes, you DO need to limit content for your kids. Any kid over the age of 5 can use a Nook, so saying "You shouldn't censor content" for your kids is nonsense. Any responsible parent needs to consider limiting the type of content their kids have access to.
So, as far as I can tell, you can't effectively limit content for the Nook browser or B&N store on a Nook. I haven't read anything in this forum that describes a way to effectively limit content for your kids. That's a design oversight. Even my web browsers provide a "Safe Search" capability on my PC's.
If anyone can describe a way to do this, I'm all ears. Let's hear it.
06-13-2012 04:23 PM
I won't be so coy... This is my concern also, as a parent. Yes, you are being a bad parent if you aren't worried about it frankly for you parents who aren't sure... I too have read all sorts of everything, and actually learned to know better. Still manage to have about 10,000 hard copy books however...
And frankly if you waited for it to be 'porn' you waited too long. Is it really to difficult to figure out if you put 'sex' and 'sexiness' in kids faces 24/7 they want to act on it?? Sexiness literally means to stir up sexual desire. DUH.
People need to stop being so open-minded their brains fall out to use an old expression.
Will be looking into Sony.
06-13-2012 04:24 PM
Exactly, you don't remotely have to be purposefully looking for it. There should be blocks - and strong ones.
You'd think someone would want to offer this, as it'd be a hot seller.
06-13-2012 10:12 PM
People need to stop being so open-minded their brains fall out to use an old expression.
Will be looking into Sony.
And to use another old expression, "Don't let the door hit you..."
06-13-2012 10:25 PM