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YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

Thus far, I have made at least 10 highlights, bookmarks and notes in 3 different books.  I am able to access every single one of them. Woohoo!  I love to reference my notes for Book Club discussion and for research I am doing on various projects.  Thanks, B&N software folks!

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

The bookmarks working makes me happy, as does the last page read and new icons!!!!

 

However, the highlight/note function needs a fine tune.  It'd be nice to go to the page that they are one!

 

Overall, I'm happy with 1.2.0!

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

Yeah, notes don't seem to be worth much.

 

Really, I don't know what people expected of them.  Who does this anyway?   

 

You let me put a link in a note in one book to a specific book mark in another book and I'll be freakin Impressed.   Let me tap that book mark to save my place in this book and open the other book to that target and I'll buy you beer!

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

I think the highlights feature of the nook needs some more work. It was working fine for me before the 1.2 update, now after applying the update I am experiencing cases where while I am making a highlight the nook just suddenly goes back to the home screen. I am sensing that there is some type of memory leak associated with the highlighting function.

 

B&N also needs to rework the UI for highlights. The buttons on the navigation circle are too small. I think the circle should be replaced with a upside down T such as you find on my keyboards and that the buttons be large enough to easily press. 

 

Finally, I want bookmark, highlight, and note synchronization so that I can see these items on my PC as well as on my nook, or any other device on which I am running the B&N eReader program. 

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

Agree with these comments. In particular, a list of highlights/notes would be very helpful. And, the ability to see notes/annotations in the ereader (and even create them on the PC app and transfer to the nook) would be awesome.

 

The only way I've thought of to make things more usable is to create a bookmark when I create a highlight/note. That way, I can at least have some way to see where I might have made an annotation.

 

Anybody else figured out a way to make the feature more useful?

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

 


wynand32 wrote:

 

Anybody else figured out a way to make the feature more useful?


 

 

Well first you need to suggest why you would make notes in an ereader at all.   Its a little like making notes while researching something in the library.  You wouldn't write in the book.  You would write somewhere else, such as a notebook that you could take with you. But even if you owned the book and kept your notes in that book's margins, its not all that useful unless you happen to somehow remember which book you happened to write your not in.  

 

Similarly, putting notes in the ebook means you have to search thru all of your ebooks to find the notes.  If you had them in a notebook they would be available everywhere.  If the were in an external document on the nook you might be able to find them by searching for key words.  But you have to admit that little keyboard is pretty clunky for that kind of stuff.

 

Perhaps if the developers understood what you wanted to do with the notes they would be able to design something that worked.

 

Why do you take notes in the nook?  

Wouldn't it make more sense to keep them in a computer or paper file?

 

If you have them in a computer file, why not print to pdf or epub files and put the pdf on the nook and the Desktop Reader.  

 

Lots of people talking about notes and annotations, but nobody has explained why you would do this in the nook.

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

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fmcpherson wrote: I am experiencing cases where while I am making a highlight the nook just suddenly goes back to the home screen.

 


 

This is probably because the nook button is still active. Hit the nook button by accident while typing out a sentence and you'll get kicked back to the home screen. Some letters on the keyboard are too close to the button. I had this problem the first time I tried to authorize a DRM'd book.

 

BN needs to move the bottom of the nook button's active area up a bit whenever the keyboard is open.

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!


icebike wrote:

 


wynand32 wrote:

 

Anybody else figured out a way to make the feature more useful?


 

 

 

Why do you take notes in the nook?  

 


Are you familiar with writing margin notes and highlighting passages in physical books? If so, then I'm not sure what you're asking here. If not, then some people (many people?) like to take notes in a book's margins as they're reading along, and to highlight passages directly in the book (with a yellow highlighter, natch). They do this to keep the notes precisely in context, without needing to reference the page, paragraph, etc. as in external notes. Indeed, I only take external notes when it's a book that I can't mark up for whatever reason.

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

Highlights still aren't working for me. I'm trying it in an epub in my documents. I go thru the process of adding a highlight w/ a note. I have selected show highlights. I can go in & read the note, but the passage I highlight on the page isn't highlighted. Isn't it supposed to be light gray like it was when I selected it to be hightlighted?

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

 


wynand32 wrote:
Are you familiar with writing margin notes and highlighting passages in physical books? If so, then I'm not sure what you're asking here. If not, then some people (many people?) like to take notes in a book's margins as they're reading along, and to highlight passages directly in the book (with a yellow highlighter, natch). They do this to keep the notes precisely in context, without needing to reference the page, paragraph, etc. as in external notes. Indeed, I only take external notes when it's a book that I can't mark up for whatever reason.

 

 

I'm familiar with highlighting and margin notes from my college days.

 

And this is fine for text books where the only place you will be looking for study hints is back at that very same physical text book.    (Never worked in college when I borrowed my friend's text book.  His margin notes were mostly doodles.)

 

Not so good for a general research projects because you still had to remember which book had the notes and highlighting.  Five or six different books on a subject make for a lot of note searching.

 

People up-thread were talking about an external note approach (pen and pad), which to me seems the only sane approach for a research project.  You have to have centralized notes, not stuff scattered in 20 different physical books, or worse, 20 different eBooks.

 

Asking for enhancements to the notes seems unlikely to make it a suitable research tool.

 

 

 

 

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!


icebike wrote:

 


wynand32 wrote:
Are you familiar with writing margin notes and highlighting passages in physical books? If so, then I'm not sure what you're asking here. If not, then some people (many people?) like to take notes in a book's margins as they're reading along, and to highlight passages directly in the book (with a yellow highlighter, natch). They do this to keep the notes precisely in context, without needing to reference the page, paragraph, etc. as in external notes. Indeed, I only take external notes when it's a book that I can't mark up for whatever reason.

 

 

I'm familiar with highlighting and margin notes from my college days.

 

And this is fine for text books where the only place you will be looking for study hints is back at that very same physical text book.    (Never worked in college when I borrowed my friend's text book.  His margin notes were mostly doodles.)

 

Not so good for a general research projects because you still had to remember which book had the notes and highlighting.  Five or six different books on a subject make for a lot of note searching.

 

People up-thread were talking about an external note approach (pen and pad), which to me seems the only sane approach for a research project.  You have to have centralized notes, not stuff scattered in 20 different physical books, or worse, 20 different eBooks.

 

Asking for enhancements to the notes seems unlikely to make it a suitable research tool.

 

 

 

 


Well, first, I take notes when I'm reading novels and very specific non-fiction works. Those aren't necessarily (or, for me, even that often) part of larger research projects. However, even if they are...

 

Second, the beauty of ebooks and ebook readers are their electronic natures (of course). They're tailor-made for organizing and centralizing precisely this sort of information. If one could take notes and create highlights on the nook and have those 1) easily found within an ebook, for standalone pieces like novels and specific works of non-fiction, 2) compiled in a single comprehensive listing for all ebooks currently loaded on the device, and 3) synced with the Windows/Mac ereader software, then that would be a powerful tool.

 

In fact, I'd say that just the ability to sync to the Windows/Mac ereader software would be sufficient. The notes could be offloaded, sorted, search, etc., etc., and that would really leverage the technology. I currently use a number of electronic tools for my research work and have been for going on 10 years, and frankly can't imagine going back to pad and pencil for it.

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

 


wynand32 wrote:

Second, the beauty of ebooks and ebook readers are their electronic natures (of course). They're tailor-made for organizing and centralizing precisely this sort of information. If one could take notes and create highlights on the nook and have those 1) easily found within an ebook, for standalone pieces like novels and specific works of non-fiction, 2) compiled in a single comprehensive listing for all ebooks currently loaded on the device, and 3) synced with the Windows/Mac ereader software, then that would be a powerful tool.

 


 

 

Ok good information.  This is the type of info I suggested people post above.

Now, how would you want this syncing to work?  And what form would you want the book marks in, (especially the centralized note repository that you suggest)?

 

Would you want your notes to be something you manually have to transfer to your PC?  (The nook does not "Sync" when you plug it in, its just a disk drive - you would have to move this info manually).

 

Would you be comfortable with this information uploaded to your B&N account and stored on their servers so that you could access if from, say, the Desktop Reader, or your iPhone/Blackberry?

 

What format should this central note repository be in?  Specialized format, or something you could manipulate with say, Excell or any other spread sheet tool,  or a web browser, or what? 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and "pen and pad" was merely a vehicle for [insert favorite note taking tool here].

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

I personally don't use the notetaking or highlight functions on the nook. But I could see students using it, for etextbooks or a book for a lit. class, but I think that I would be taking notes the old fashioned way with pen/pencil and paper. Just a suggestion, but how about using a Pen Scanner? It should work well on the e-ink

 

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icebike wrote:

 


Ok good information.  This is the type of info I suggested people post above.

Now, how would you want this syncing to work?  And what form would you want the book marks in, (especially the centralized note repository that you suggest)?

 

Would you want your notes to be something you manually have to transfer to your PC?  (The nook does not "Sync" when you plug it in, its just a disk drive - you would have to move this info manually).

 

Would you be comfortable with this information uploaded to your B&N account and stored on their servers so that you could access if from, say, the Desktop Reader, or your iPhone/Blackberry?

 

What format should this central note repository be in?  Specialized format, or something you could manipulate with say, Excell or any other spread sheet tool,  or a web browser, or what? 

  


Hmmm... Well, first, the ability to locate all notes on the nook that are in a given ebook could be as simple as the current bookmark list. Not specifically what you asked, but I thought I'd mention it.

 

As far as the synced notes/highlights go, it would be nice to do it to the server. I believe that B&N plans to add at least the ability to sync the last page read to the ereader software, and at least for B&N books. Would it be hard for them to also sync notes/highlights, and then also sync the same info for ebooks in my documents? Maybe not... I do believe that there's a folder for notes/highlights in the my documents folder, so the information should be easily accessible.

 

As far as the format, I'd be happy with a simple snippet that provided the ebook title, page number, paragraph, highlighted text, and then any added notes. This could be in a simple text file, for easy cut and paste into other notetaking software. The information could certainly be made available in the ereader software.

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

 


wynand32 wrote:
 As far as the synced notes/highlights go, it would be nice to do it to the server. I believe that B&N plans to add at least the ability to sync the last page read to the ereader software, and at least for B&N books. Would it be hard for them to also sync notes/highlights, and then also sync the same info for ebooks in my documents?  

 

 

This sync-ing of current page already works between the nook and the Desktop Reader by the way.

 

Syncing the rest in a similar way would seem to make the most sense.

 

But this is bound to stir up the privacy whiners.

 

Just sayin....

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icebike wrote:

 


  

This sync-ing of current page already works between the nook and the Desktop Reader by the way.

 

Syncing the rest in a similar way would seem to make the most sense.

 

But this is bound to stir up the privacy whiners.

 

Just sayin....


It does? It's not working for me... I'll have to recheck to see if 1.2 fixed anything. But the last time I looked, the last page read was way off on the nook vs. the Windows reader, so much so in fact that I'd been assuming B&N hadn't yet turned on that feature.

 

As far as privacy goes, that's just silliness as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who's worried about "privacy" should go live in a hut in the middle of a rain forest then, because there's far more valuable information out there about all of us than any notes and highlights I might make on my nook. I mean, do these same people buy stuff online with credit cards?

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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

As an English teacher and - not coincidentally - an avid reader, I generally highlight (underline) passages in books if something jumps out at me that I may want to talk about in class.  I would love to be able to open a book on my Mac, and be able to see the passages that I highlighted on my nook.  I don't mind having to flip through pages (although I could also use the Bookmark feature, I suppose), because I usually know approximately where in the book the passage is located.

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SultaZ
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Re: YES!!! The bookmarks, highlights and notes work!

Being able to search for highlights or notes in a book such as the bible would be greatly beneficial.  Clicking on Go To and seeing a highlight or note option, would be a nice feature.  You could see the note you are looking for and be taken right to the page when it is clicked.

 

Also being able to rename bookmarks would be a nice feature.  When I highlight or make a note, I have to then make a bookmark so that I can find it, but looking at the bookmarks and seeing page 201, means nothing to me.  Let me change the name.

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