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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

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I knew it wouldn't be too long as those devs over there at XDA rock.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

Dean, can give a little more detail on the boot files that you warn may be changed by sidebooting? 

 

I screwed up my NT trying to make it like an NST two nights ago, and last night did a rather manual version of this (booted from an SD card similar to Adam's, copied in and chmodded su, rebooted and then manually brought in gapps) after reinstalling 1.4.1 rather than stepping back to 1.4.0 and rooting. 

 

I still have the dd images of the first several stock partitions around, so I can restore to that state if need be, but I'm curious about what the state of my various boot bits is at this point :smileyhappy: 

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

Thank Goodness!  My money will go to the SDCard and not to B&N disaster of a app store.  B&N would it have been better to open this hardware up yourself and have happy customers as opposed to angry customers that must look elsewhere?  Shot yourself in the foot again.  You know if you quit banging your head up against the wall it will quit hurting. 

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

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roustabout wrote:

Dean, can give a little more detail on the boot files that you warn may be changed by sidebooting? 

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My assessment of the first "bootable SDcard" process on XDA-devs left me with the impression that a slight (but compatible) change to the internal memory was required (I don't recall the details).

 

However, the new "bootable SDcard" process on XDA-devs doesn't rely on the internal memory contents at all in order to boot.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

Love your new signature, Dean. I think I'm still going to wait a while longer to see what XDA comes up with.  I'd still rather not root if I could avoid it.  The dual boot on NC was much better for my use, if somebody could figure a way to do that.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card


Reisnice wrote:

...  The dual boot on NC was much better for my use, if somebody could figure a way to do that.


Dual boot for the NT is a virtual certainty.  I'm surprised it isn't already available, since all the technical issues are completely solved.  I think it's just a question of packaging.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

Probably a case of bad timing with CyanogenMod, as most development is focused on ICS, so work on a new device on Froyo isn't anybody's focus. Once CM9 is out, I'm hopeful a version for the NT will be released.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

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CM 7 and CM9 for the NT are already being worked on. Edit: or are you referring to dual booting?
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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card


n2ative wrote:
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Remarkable.  The developers - the folks actually doing the work of getting the software functioning - refer to what they're doing as ALPHA software, not even beta.  Just yesterday they ran into a bug which led some testers to accidentally brick their NTs.  There is a caution, in red, at the beginning of the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826

 

Yet here is a product, "Available Now", which piggybacks on their incomplete, use-at-your-own-risk efforts.  Pretty good trick, since the developers have removed the software from availability until they get some more bugs worked out.  See the first post at the above thread... caveat emptor.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

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Can't speak for the not-a-Tablet n2a card, but I have two Nook Colors that both work great with their cards.  If I owned the not-a-tablet, I wouldn't hesitate to order.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card


gb18 wrote:

Can't speak for the not-a-Tablet n2a card, but I have two Nook Colors that both work great with their cards.  If I owned the not-a-tablet, I wouldn't hesitate to order.


My NC also has a roll-your-own card which works well.  The problem here is that the NT software is bleeding-edge, not just leading-edge.  No way is it ready for general distribution.  Look at this caution from the developers at the xda-developers thread I mentioned:

 

***** DISCLAIMER ******
Please note software such as this is currently experimental and you use this at your own risk. We have done some in house testing and all has worked fine but we cannot guarantee the exact same results for everyone. We accept no responsibility for any damage or loss on information with you Nook Tablet. You use this software at your own risk.

 

That "all has worked fine" was before the major bug turned up which hosed part of the onboard software in the NT.  There's a way to recover from that but it's not a trivial process.  If the cardsellers want to risk a tech support nightmare, they're free to press on.  Me, I'll wait a while.

 

(One correction from my first post - it's a "first beta", not an alpha.  But it still, at this writing, has been pulled from distribution until more work can be done.)

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

n2ative, where are you?

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n2ative
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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

I posted what is on the N2Acards.com website home page and on Nook2Android facebook page.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

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But N2A cards, on the Color at least, don't root the device. They provide a totally different operating system for the Color to run off of without touching its internal coding at all. That's one of their selling points. I'm assuming an N2A card for the Tablet would work the same way. Since it won't change any internals on the Tablet (take the card out and you're right back to the stock interface, nothing's been touched there), the biggest risk would simply be getting a card that doesn't work; wouldn't it?

 

ETA:  Hopefully somebody who's better informed than I am can clarify the situation for us, but I just looked at the thread DaveAvl linked to. And from my (granted, limited) understanding, it's talking about a totally different process than what is provided by an N2A card.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

I'm not a techie, so please bear with me.

But as I understand it,

 

(1) The rooting availble for NT is still in the experimental phase. (alpha, not even a beta).

(2) But the Dual-Boot mSD Card (runnning 2.3) is available, and since it won't be affecting the stock OS in any way, it's SAFE to use now?

 

Am I right?

 

:smileyhappy:

 

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

That's my understanding, but my technical knowledge is rather limited too.

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Re: New NT root method boots from SD card

Here is how it works on the Color:

 

http://n2acards.com/how-it-works

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