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Maybe B&N should dump Julie once and for all, start courting LadyAda

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I love fact checking. Fortunately, Appannie's data is searchable back to 1/1/2012. I went back and checked the rankings for two popular "techie" apps on GPS: Swiftkey (root not required, a soft keyboard replacement) and Titanium Backup Pro (key) (root required, a backup utility). Here are their respective last 15 months rankings in GPS according to Appannie (any typos are mine):

 

Swiftkey

 1/1/2012 7
 2/1/2012 7
 3/1/2012 5
 4/1/2012 8
 5/1/2012 5
 6/1/2012 8
 7/1/2012 1
 8/1/2012 8
 9/1/2012 2
10/1/2012 4
11/1/2012 1
12/1/2012 1
 1/1/2013 3
 2/1/2013 2
 3/1/2013 1

(10 months in top 5 of last 15, 4 at position 1)

 

Titanium Backup Pro

 1/1/2012 11
 2/1/2012 5
 3/1/2012 5
 4/1/2012 8
 5/1/2012 5
 6/1/2012 8
 7/1/2012 6
 8/1/2012 9
 9/1/2012 1
10/1/2012 13
11/1/2012 2
12/1/2012 2
 1/1/2013 5
 2/1/2013 3
 3/1/2013 2

(9 months in top 5 of last 15, 1 at position 1, 3 at position 2)

 

It appears that the presence of these two at or near the top of the rankings is not a short-lived phenomenon. The myth that techie customers, and particularly rooters, don't pay for apps is well and truly "busted". So unless one is trying to make the point that GPS sales are so miniscule that 1-2% of the user population is swaying the rankings of this sort of app, what's left to conclude?

 

I contend it's the characterization of techies as merely 1-2% of the population that's wrong. FT noted that even the land of iTunes saw that (quoting FT) "The most popular jailbreak for iOS in recent memory (Evasi0n) was downloaded 18 million times in the 43 days before Apple patched the hole that it exploited." Remember that Apple demographic has a high tech component along with high income. Who knows how many people jailbreak iOS without having to rely on a crutch from iTunes?

 

Could it be that Julie has a techie hubby, or *gasp* actually has some technical aptitude herself? Oh my.

 

I think that B&N's data is wrong. Technical folks buy technical toys. To think that the mythical JuneJulie is technologically oblivious stereotype certainly isn't resulting in the numbers B&N needs to keep the NOOK alive. To dismiss the clamoring of the technical audience that helped the NOOK Color buzz initially has been a mistake, and the entire 1-2% boxing of techies wishful thinking. People know and care about technology, and to treat them like unthinking cash dispensers is death to any business selling to them. We get to hear more on this Thursday.

 

Is GPS as big as iTunes? I doubt it. And I don't care. Will it ever supercede iTunes? I don't care. I don't resent iTunes. Apple makes nice stuff. It's just not for me, for a variety of reasons. I get annoyed when anybody makes broad statements that there's only crap in GPS, but that's because they're wrong, not because Apple's bigger. I use (and paid for) a lot of stuff that's decidedly not crap that I got from GPS, including SwiftKey and Titanium Backup. I don't care whether the same app is sold in iTunes if it does what I want. What is important to me is that Android targets and audience that includes the technically adept, even if not catering exclusively to them.

 

Ever since the initial buzz around the NC, and the short-lived surge in NT sales shortly thereafter (where, I'll contend, a lot of people thought the NT inherited the NC's open architecture), many if not most of the B&N sales reports have contained the word "disappointing". The "50 Shades" bump didn't last. Perhaps B&N should quit worrying about Julie, and start courting the likes of LadyAda (Limor Fried). Quit sneering at the techies and developers and instead embrace them. Make a device that any Julies that we know can use, but quit trying to keep the technically adept from using their devices as they see fit. Act as the mediary between your actual user base and publishers, and work out delivery mechanisms that work for both sides, without undercurrents that we just want to pirate your content.

 

So what horrible illegal acts are we techies trying to accomplish that compell B&N to resist us? Here, ladies and gentlemen, is my list of heinous acts perpetrated upon my unsuspecting Samsungs. (Caution: This is not for the weak of heart):

 

  • I willingly and knowingly set display brightness according to ambient lighting conditions, espousing the heresy that the manufacturer's automatic light setting is too dim.
  • I surreptitiously change my volume settings according to the time and day of week, confounding those around me.
  • I doth block unwanted callers on my phone, rendering mineself deaf unto the word of the telemarketers.

Seriously, B&N, get over it. Your audience is more technical than your data shows. Learn from the results over the last 6 months.

 

Disagree? Great, let's talk. Let's start with your data.

 

 

 

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bobstro wrote:

 

It appears that the presence of these two at or near the top of the rankings is not a short-lived phenomenon. The myth that techie customers, and particularly rooters, don't pay for apps is well and truly "busted". So unless one is trying to make the point that GPS sales are so miniscule that 1-2% of the user population is swaying the rankings of this sort of app, what's left to conclude?

 


That's exactly the conclusion I would draw from all the available data. Given that Titanium Backup has less than a million total installs, it means that to top the list of paid apps in GPS takes very few sales. It's simple averaging now, Bobstro. Take the number of installs and divide it by the number of days it has been available.

 

Titanium Backup has been available since at least August of 2011 (probably earlier, but that's the earliest evidence I can find with a thirty second Google Search). We'll round and say that it has thus been available for 20 months. At an average of 4 weeks per month, we're looking at 80 weeks of sales. Simple division gives us (in the best situation of 1 million installs) a grand average of 12500 installs per week, or just under 1800 installs per day. Remember, that is the absolute best case scenario, in reality it's most likely far lower than that.

 

If an app that has consistantly topped the paid charts is pulling in less than 2000 installs per day is a scary bad number for the ecosystem as a whole. Why? 2000 is a big number! 

 

Well, there are at least 1.3 million new Android devices activated every single day. Less than 2000 daily installs on a platform that is growing by a million and a half each day - and topping the charts in the process - doesn't paint a rosy picture for how much Android users are spending on paid apps.

 

You've basically just proven my point. The paid section of the GPS just doesn't do well in relation to the platform size.

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Re: Maybe B&N should dump Julie once and for all, start courting LadyAda

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flyingtoastr wrote:

You've basically just proven my point. The paid section of the GPS just doesn't do well in relation to the platform size.

 

Google definitely needs to grow GPS apps sales numbers. I find it interesting that you think B&N shouldn't "just pack it in" yet you seem to suggest anybody selling in GPS should. That 100:1 ratio of download-to-sale disparity still represents potential future sales (aka the market). While some percentage of those device owners will churn for a new device every 2 years, they're still potential customers. Lots of 'em.

 

Again, I'm addressing the many comments that have been made here that GPS only contains crap or free apps, not the relative size of GPS to iTunes. Meanwhile, GPS is a means for developers of techie-focused apps to target a world-wide market with minimal effort. For now, techies are spending as well as others for one-time app purchases, and rooters are a healthy percentage of that group. That tells me that a techie-focused app probably has a better chance in GPS than any other market for the time being, even if they don't wind up on every device. If I sell an app that sees 1-5M paid installs, I'm happy, even if Street Maps has 100X the installs. Why ignore those who are paying because more people downloaded Angry Birds Space?

 

I expect GPS will grow, and those millions of device sales are a positive in my mind, not a negative.

 

Looking back at the NOOK, then, perhaps it's time for B&N to pay attention to those GPS sales and quit worrying about stocking the B&N app store with so many Julie-centric apps, and instead being an aggressive campaign of getting the needed apps into the store, or making them otherwise available on NOOKs. Yes, everything's bigger in Texas. We still live where we live.

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I'd like to see a division of Android sales according to type/size of device/screen.

 

Given the small screen size of smartphones and their main use as a phone, I'd be surprised if the rooting numbers were large.  Those that do it for fun (yes, there's a lot of "I rooted my phone, now what can I do with it" on XDA forums), probably don't need Titanium Backup, ESPECIALLY since the carriers (at least mine, Verizon) automatically (yes, it's an option) backup and restore the apps and settings.

 

WiFi tablets are different, and their main use is as a mini-computer.  There is no carrier to support backup, although it appears that Google now offers to download all your apps (but no settings) when you acquire a new device (that's what happened with my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0").  Plus, the number of things you readily do with a tablet are much more than with a smartphone, so the need for backup is greater (and hence perhaps rooting).

 

Somebody factor all that in, and get back to us ...

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Re: Maybe B&N should dump Julie once and for all, start courting LadyAda


bobstro wrote:

Meanwhile, GPS is a means for developers of techie-focused apps to target a world-wide market with minimal effort. For now, techies are spending as well as others for one-time app purchases, and rooters are a healthy percentage of that group. That tells me that a techie-focused app probably has a better chance in GPS than any other market for the time being, even if they don't wind up on every device.


Well now that we've got our requisite porn app I think it's safe to say BN is at least moving away from the "Julie" segment.

 

I'm wondering if this is a result less of GPS being friendly to "techies" and more of no other major app store allows apps of this type. Once again I'd point out the Evasi0n numbers (18 million installs in 43 days), which prove pretty conslusively that if Apple allowed these kind of tweak apps they would be immensely popular. But they don't, so the techies have no alternative to Android and GPS, which doesn't bother filtering at all. You can't compare GPS's "success" in selling techie apps relative to other platforms when the other platforms don't even have techie apps.

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okay..so I was having a bad day, we're all allowed. :smileyhappy: But..I was not responding randomly. I have been following the thread because I find it fascinating to watch folks bandy around "facts" and argue their points so heatedly, refusing to allow that anyone else could be right. Ever. Sounds like many people I know in person and I enjoy watching them go on too. :smileyhappy:

 

There were several posts made that were NOT a joke, but derogatory in tone. All too often, what is joked about is actually meant as truth, pretending to be comedy.

 

So please do not denigrate me for responding much as you all have been doing, by defending myself with the facts regarding my own behavior in this case that I know as truth, as compared to defending "facts" from other sources that may or may not be pulled from thin air to prove a case.

 

Glad I could inject some light moments into your heated conversation. I had to laugh at myself after I read my post. That's why I made the second post. :smileyhappy: But carry on..I'm still enjoying the thread. :smileyhappy:

 

 

 

 

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Re: Maybe B&N should dump Julie once and for all, start courting LadyAda

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Well now that we've got our requisite porn app I think it's safe to say BN is at least moving away from the "Julie" segment.

 

Ah, well, so much for curation. There was a book that kept popping up in my B&N search results that purported to show where to find porn on Netflix, so it's not that much of a jump I suppose. The solitary review isn't very positive. 

 

I'm wondering if this is a result less of GPS being friendly to "techies" and more of no other major app store allows apps of this type.

 

Tech-focused apps are certainly nothing  new. I installed many an alternative launcher and other system enhancements on my Windows mobile phone. Not from the OS publisher's store though, but MS certainly didn't seem to dissuade such apps. You probably have to qualify what you mean by "app store". Amazon? Probably not. Some of the off-brand apps stores? Probably so.

 

Once again I'd point out the Evasi0n numbers (18 million installs in 43 days), which prove pretty conslusively that if Apple allowed these kind of tweak apps they would be immensely popular.

 

Yes, that's my point as well. Even on the "consumer focused" Apple devices, there's a rather large tech underground with pent-up demand. No doubt, the sales of such apps on iTunes would dwarf those on GPS, at least for the immediate future. I pointed to that article which sums up the Apple demographic as rather affluent, and largely technology professionals, so it's hardly a shocker.

 

But they don't, so the techies have no alternative to Android and GPS, which doesn't bother filtering at all. You can't compare GPS's "success" in selling techie apps relative to other platforms when the other platforms don't even have techie apps.

 

I'm not measuring relative to other platforms. I keep repeating that I don't know and don't care about other platforms. I don't sweat what people do in their own homes, and I'm sure not about to get worked up over what version of Angry Birds they play. I am not the one with the Apple obsession. Apple's bigger. We get that.

 

 

I am measuring the relative number paying Android device owners. Tech-focused apps do well relative to the general GPS-buying population of Android users.  Or to put it another way, if Google were to suddenly go all B&N and purge all such apps, GPS numbers would take a real hit. (Google is doing this to some extent by removing the ad blockers, so we may see.) I could also argue that, if GPS begins to dominate, Apple might have to relent on their stance. Jobs is dead. Some of the magic went with him.

 

What you can take from both the GPS numbers and the Apple numbers you cited is that there is a sizeable tech constituency buying (no surprise) tech products. And that tech community does influence the purchasing on non-techies, both in the press and when making recommendations as the "expert" to friends and family. If you're not Apple -- and unless B&N is selling well to the $250K+ tech industry demographic, they're not -- it's probably a good idea to recognize that you live on the Android side of the tracks, and adjust accordingly.

 

Catering to a mythical, tech-adverse Julie doesn't seem to be working very well. Thinking that focusing on only half the population is a mistake that even politicians seem capable of learning from these days. Perhaps it's time to think of ways to make the product excite rather than turn off those who understand technology, regardless of gender?

 

Techies do, after all, read. Lots. Expensive books at that. They probably cycle through titles much more frequently than the general book buying population, as O'Reilly can attest. I'm unlikely to buy a new edition of a classic that I've read, but it's a sure bet a new edition of a network security book will wind up on my shelf within a year or two after I buy the first. Keeping up with technology requires a lot of reading, and a NOOK is a great device to do that reading on, provided it meets your other needs. Techies are probably as likely to want to carry their full library around as anybody. Why ignore, much less treat with disdain, this buying population?

 

It's probably worth pointing out that O'Reilly and most other tech publishers aren't adverse to discounting, and would probably encourage it. They're notably absent from the price fixing legal actions, unless I'm woefully mistaken. B&N can probably work out discounts galore on tech books, finally offering something interesting for actual NOOK owners in the B&N club membership.

 

Get over Julie, B&N. She's not interested, nor can you even be certain she ever existed. The rich kids at the yacht club don't want you. It's time to come back to the nerdy tech club that was there for you when you started. (Insert Revenge of the Nerds reference here.)

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DeanGibson wrote:

I'd like to see a division of Android sales according to type/size of device/screen.

 

If you ever see any data that breaks things out consistently between iTune and GPS sales to different platforms, I'd sure love to see it! As phones get bigger and tablets get smaller, the lines will blur, but there's clearly a distinction between a basic "smartphone" and the high end devices out there today. 

 

Using my bi-weekly "walk from the back of the plane" polling method, I have seen a big shift to the 7 inch form factor. Before, I'd see a mix of phones and big 10 inch tablets in use. Now there seem to be more mid-sized devices, though I can't always immediately discern what make they are. I do see a lot of varied activities, from email to reading to gaming. People defintely want the device they carry to do a lot of different things. Dean's absolutely right that the devices are being much more ingrained into our daily lives, and aren't just accessories any more.

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FlyingToastr, this is key (what you wrote) -

 

*****

That's exactly the conclusion I would draw from all the available data. Given that Titanium Backup has less than a million total installs, it means that to top the list of paid apps in GPS takes very few sales. It's simple averaging now,

*****

 

So, even with hundreds of millions of Android Devices out, the #1 App is averaging just 1,800 to 2,000 sales a day.

 

Update: I actually get 1,388 as the average. So it's even lower.

 

Also 1 million total sales would suggest that less than 0.5% of Android Device owners have bought that App. Which for the #1 selling app is a horribly low figure.

 

Now consider how many different devices it has to support - Hundreds of Phones, 10+ Tablets.

 

Even if you focus on the most popular devices it's still 5-6 different phones and 2-3 different Tablets.

 

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Finally, this is one of the ABSOLUTE winners. It's been doing well throughout. If even this app only has less than 1 million sales, then it's a difficult store.

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5ivedom wrote:

So, even with hundreds of millions of Android Devices out, the #1 App is averaging just 1,800 to 2,000 sales a day.


So based on this comment, can we assume that you're seeing significantly more than 1-2K of paid sales per day? Congratulations if so!

 

I'd love to see some data that shows what the AVERAGE rate of paid downloads is for apps that aren't in the top 10 or even 100 across iTunes and GPS. It's as if, now that Facebook and Apple have hit historical records, anything less is considered a failure. If a small developer is bringing in on the order of $1.4M per year off a single app, I'm thinking that's pretty good.

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A few things (since I seem to have missed most of the kerfluffle):

 

Yes, Apple users buy more apps.  BUT, Apple users statistically buy more in general - they use their browser to buy non-device stuff more than Android users do.

 

A lower sales/device ratio does not mean that Android users only want free apps.  That logic is flawed.  Even if they download a higer percentage of free apps, the odds are that a lot of those apps are dumped after download (because a lot of free apps suck, let's face it).

 

AFAIK, Verizon only backs up and restores apps, not the data in the those apps (a Verizon rep confirmed this for me just a couple weeks ago).  So, yes, everyone needs Titanium Backup.  But not everyone can get it, because not every phone can be rooted, and for some of them the root process is not for the faint of heart, and not everyone is technical enough to handle it.  And most folks won't even know they need it until something goes wrong.

 

What makes you think that Julie doesn't like porn?

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bobstro wrote:

 

I'd love to see some data that shows what the AVERAGE rate of paid downloads is for apps that aren't in the top 10 or even 100 across iTunes and GPS. It's as if, now that Facebook and Apple have hit historical records, anything less is considered a failure. If a small developer is bringing in on the order of $1.4M per year off a single app, I'm thinking that's pretty good.


It's all a question of costs.

 

For a utility app like Titanium that seems to be done mainly by volunteers $1.4 million is fantastic. For a major app company like EA, it probably barely covers the asset costs for developing the game once all the overhead is factored in.

 

That's why I think we're seeing such a push, even from the huge developers, towards IAP freemium models instead of purchase-paid. It gets people "in the door" easily, and then you can upsell them on later content (seem familiar?).

 

It also doesn't help that 25 companies are making half the app revenue. It doesn't leave much of the pie for the other few hundred thousand developers.

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flyingtoastr wrote:

It also doesn't help that 25 companies are making half the app revenue. It doesn't leave much of the pie for the other few hundred thousand developers.


This is true of most everything, not just in the app world.  Heck, look at the book industry.

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Suggestion: Let me sign up for notification of future book releases in a series or by an author.

Especially on e-books or Nook.  When reading a book with an unreleased or pending sequel, you will often not know the name of the future book, nor when it will be released.  Would it be possible to allow the reader to request notification when it comes out?  This would be a button right at the end of the book saying "do you want to buy the next book in the series or be notified when it is available?"  Right now, all I can do is maybe remember to look for that series at some time in the future, perhaps look online to see if someone knows when it might come out, etc.  This would make great business case for B&N to virtually guarantee future sales or know what the future demand might be.  It would also be a nice thing for me to know that whenever it comes out I will be notified and can read the next volume.

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Richard_WRC wrote:

Especially on e-books or Nook.  When reading a book with an unreleased or pending sequel, you will often not know the name of the future book, nor when it will be released.  Would it be possible to allow the reader to request notification when it comes out?  This would be a button right at the end of the book saying "do you want to buy the next book in the series or be notified when it is available?"  Right now, all I can do is maybe remember to look for that series at some time in the future, perhaps look online to see if someone knows when it might come out, etc.  This would make great business case for B&N to virtually guarantee future sales or know what the future demand might be.  It would also be a nice thing for me to know that whenever it comes out I will be notified and can read the next volume.


I realize this is a suggestion thread, but thought I'd let you know there is a website that you can use to track your favorite author and series.

 

Go to www.fictfact.com and sign up.

 

It will tell you what books are in a series and what order they should be read in. It will tell you what the next book in the series is and what the scheduled release date is (if known).

 

It will also email you when the next book in a series is announced and when it is released, or when another book by a favorite author is announced or released.

 

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Richard_WRC wrote:

Especially on e-books or Nook.  When reading a book with an unreleased or pending sequel, you will often not know the name of the future book, nor when it will be released.  Would it be possible to allow the reader to request notification when it comes out?  This would be a button right at the end of the book saying "do you want to buy the next book in the series or be notified when it is available?"  Right now, all I can do is maybe remember to look for that series at some time in the future, perhaps look online to see if someone knows when it might come out, etc.  This would make great business case for B&N to virtually guarantee future sales or know what the future demand might be.  It would also be a nice thing for me to know that whenever it comes out I will be notified and can read the next volume.


They already do this.  I get them fairly often.

 

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1) Yes, this is very true -

 

It also doesn't help that 25 companies are making half the app revenue. It doesn't leave much of the pie for the other few hundred thousand developers.

 

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True of every line of work as Keriflur said.

 

Except that total app revenues for 1 month in 2012 (perhaps September or October) were estimated to be $65 million.

 

Half goes to to the Top 25 (even within that some companies like supercell are making $10 million+).

 

That means for the hundreds of thousands of developers outside the Top 25 it's just $33 million in a month.

 

It's extremely titled towards the top 25.

 

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2) For Android the figures are all out there. You can just go to any app page and see downloads.

 

There are apps in the Top 100 that don't even have 10,000 sales. I've even seen ones with less than 1,000 sales be in the Top 100.

 

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It's a very poor picture for most apps outside the Top 10/ Top 20.

 

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Bobstro, I'll just clear up that the assumption you made is wrong. We've made that much on certain days in the past, but no where near that now.

 

Also, we sell in lots of stores. So that skews things too.

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Wow! We've gotten pretty far afield from "Nook Ideas and Suggestions", eh? or at least tunnel-visioned.

As a new member of these forums and a new Nook owner, I'd LOVE to have access to Google Play like I do on my cell phone, but I understand there may be a financial NEED for BN not to go that route.

What I NEED, however, is access to more of the apps that are on Google Play. If I have to pay for them on my Nook even though they're free on my cell phone (as long as it's reasonable: 99 cents, $1.99, etc) that's fine. But I NEED the same apps so I can sync them with my cell phone apps.

A perfect example is Color Notes app. I have it on my cell phone, I need to be able to sync it with my Nook. I shouldn't have to change to a completely different app on my cell phone (such as Evernote) when both are widely available Android apps!

I'll pay a reasonable charge, but MAKE THEM AVAILABLE! please....

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Jay,

 

ColorNote people are claiming Google Keep ripped them off.

 

Have you seen Google Keep?

 

Is it really very similar to ColorNotes?

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I've got an older Andriod phone (HTC Incredible) still running Android 2.3. Google Keep requires Android 4.0.3 or higher. So no, I haven't seen or used Google Keep.