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DeltaT wrote:

According to two Kindle Specialists at Amazon, the Kindle Touch does have landscape mode.  I'm still skeptical, since it would seem to be a nifty trick to perform with the infrared grid, but that is what they read off of the in-house product specs.


Not sure why you think infrared grid is a problem in landscapemode. I had the NST browser working  ( as much as it did work) in landscape mode and it did everything it did in portrait mode (admittedly not much). Of course that's all gone now.

 

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It was mentioned earlier that the recommendation area of the Shop wasn't sized correctly, and that this might be something caused by the new update.  I usually buy most of my books on my phone or on my computer, but today I was at my local B&N with my Nook and noticed this same issue before I installed the update.  I'm still noticing it now.  I am unable to see the bottom portion of the rotating billboard.  To me, it looks like the whole thing either needs to be moved up about an inch, or the vertical sizing needs to be changed to see the entire billboard.  Oh, and the first screen of mine is also for Nook Color apps.

 

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Yep, I'm seeing this issue with 1.0.1 also.  It looks like in addition to trying to give us the nook color update they're also giving us the nook color store marketing.  "About an inch" is right - it's sized perfectly for a 7-inch screen.

 

Alex - Can you please raise this issue?

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Did they do anything asked for on the 1.1 wishlist thread? I don't want to waste my time upgrading if they didn't modify any features. I have one specific question: do they allow the clock to display all of the time? There were a ton of other things I would like, but having the clock always visible was something I really wanted (without rooting).
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squirrelsnest wrote:
Did they do anything asked for on the 1.1 wishlist thread? I don't want to waste my time upgrading if they didn't modify any features. I have one specific question: do they allow the clock to display all of the time? There were a ton of other things I would like, but having the clock always visible was something I really wanted (without rooting).

As far as I can tell, the answer is "no".  I looked through the settings and couldn't find any way to allow it.  I know some people were wanting the ability to make both right buttons to move forward and both left buttons to move backward.  This change didn't happen, either.  The only thing I can tell from the settings that may be a change is the ability to link a Google account in the "social" section, although I could be wrong, as I'm very anti-social and haven't paid much attention to it. :smileyhappy:

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Does anyone know if there is any way to prevent the Nook from loading the new version?

 

Experience with the original Nook has taught me that the "improvements" aren't always desirable and often have unintended side effects.  I agree with many of the replies I've read here that the "improvements" are unnecessary and it would have been prefereable for B&N to fix the problems that exist (opening books randomly, the screen freezing, etc).

 

If anyone from B&N is reading this, it would be great if you added something to the download to allow us to confirm that we want the update before loading this.

 

I especially think this is important because if you look at most PC apps, you have to agree to the update before it can be downloaded.

 

I am especially leary of new versions of software after upgrading from the original Nook to the 2nd Edition Nook.  I looked at the list of updates before I bought it and was really excited.  I was sorry I spent the money from the first day I bought it.  The software is riddled with bugs that are easy to fix and no attempt has been made to fix them.  Examples are the 'Pre-order" banner that never goes away and the fact that when you sort the library by "Most Recent" you have to go looking for the book you were just reading because it is NEVER  at the beginning of the list.  Add to that the fact that the people answering the customer service line read from a script and no matter what problem you report step three is always 'De-register and re-register" your nook, which loses all the books you have downloaded and deletes your book shelves.

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Re: Nook Simple Touch Update 1.1 available today (well maybe)!


MacFlash wrote:

DeltaT wrote:

According to two Kindle Specialists at Amazon, the Kindle Touch does have landscape mode.  I'm still skeptical, since it would seem to be a nifty trick to perform with the infrared grid, but that is what they read off of the in-house product specs.


Not sure why you think infrared grid is a problem in landscapemode. I had the NST browser working  ( as much as it did work) in landscape mode and it did everything it did in portrait mode (admittedly not much). Of course that's all gone now.

 


An orthogonal grid of light waves is more difficult to program for than a grid of touch points.  The object (your finger) that breaks the grid to register a hit also induces many reflections, refractions, and interference patterns in the light grid.

 

It's like watching the little waves that radiate out when you touch a still water surface.  With a non-square optical grid, turning it sideways changes the grid's reaction to external objects.

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I stopped by bn today (in fact the very same bn where they had the press conference, in Union Sq), and took a look at the NST with 1.1. They had huge kiosks set up for the tablet, but hadn't finished setting them up yet, and I was in a bit of a hurry so didn't stick around for that.

Text was a little bolder/more readable - definitely welcome - but otherwise I didn't notice a difference (except for plugging the browser hole, which 1.0.1 also did). Page turns about the same.

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As for landscape mode:there are hacks available that enable this for nst already if you're willing to root - for everything, apparently, not just for the reader app - but I haven't tried them yet.

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MarkinStLouis wrote:

squirrelsnest wrote:
Did they do anything asked for on the 1.1 wishlist thread? I don't want to waste my time upgrading if they didn't modify any features. I have one specific question: do they allow the clock to display all of the time? There were a ton of other things I would like, but having the clock always visible was something I really wanted (without rooting).

As far as I can tell, the answer is "no".  I looked through the settings and couldn't find any way to allow it.  I know some people were wanting the ability to make both right buttons to move forward and both left buttons to move backward.  This change didn't happen, either.  The only thing I can tell from the settings that may be a change is the ability to link a Google account in the "social" section, although I could be wrong, as I'm very anti-social and haven't paid much attention to it. :smileyhappy:


 

Thanks for looking!  I guess I'll hold off on the update. I was really hoping for a big update. One of the Nook Color updates had a lot of big changes like flash and Nook Market, so I was hoping that this 1.1 update would have a lot of big things too (like changes to the shelving and more options for the reader app).. *sigh*

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@squirrelsnest

 

Any time you want to see the time, tap in the middle of the screen. That will bring up the reading menu and the clock display. Tap again and it will remove the menu and clock.

 

The clock was always visible on the N1E and I don't think I looked at it once while I was using that device.

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DeltaT wrote:


An orthogonal grid of light waves is more difficult to program for than a grid of touch points.  The object (your finger) that breaks the grid to register a hit also induces many reflections, refractions, and interference patterns in the light grid.

 

It's like watching the little waves that radiate out when you touch a still water surface.  With a non-square optical grid, turning it sideways changes the grid's reaction to external objects.



I understand what your are saying, but I don't think it is as complicated as you make out. As an engineer what your saying does not make a lot of sense to me. IR light comes from the small leds with a lens that form a fairly narrow beam. For each beam their is a photosensor on the opposite side of the frame. Reflections and interference patterns between beams are not a major player in the operation of these devices, only interruption of individual beams.  Furthermore the sensors don't care if you are running in portrait or landscape mode, they only give an x-y coordiante of where the interuption occurs.

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squirrelsnest wrote:


 

Thanks for looking!  I guess I'll hold off on the update. I was really hoping for a big update. One of the Nook Color updates had a lot of big changes like flash and Nook Market, so I was hoping that this 1.1 update would have a lot of big things too (like changes to the shelving and more options for the reader app).. *sigh*


So because the update didn't do as much as you wanted it to it doesn't make sense to update at all?  Can I ask what the logic of that is?

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The one thing I am finding is I am not getting any of those pesky freeze ups anymore (and I've been trying for the past few hours. So far so good). I realize there were a lot of things on the wishlist that weren't addressed, but since that was my biggest gripe, I'm pleased. 

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MacFlash wrote:

DeltaT wrote:


An orthogonal grid of light waves is more difficult to program for than a grid of touch points.  The object (your finger) that breaks the grid to register a hit also induces many reflections, refractions, and interference patterns in the light grid.

 

It's like watching the little waves that radiate out when you touch a still water surface.  With a non-square optical grid, turning it sideways changes the grid's reaction to external objects.



I understand what your are saying, but I don't think it is as complicated as you make out. As an engineer what your saying does not make a lot of sense to me. IR light comes from the small leds with a lens that form a fairly narrow beam. For each beam their is a photosensor on the opposite side of the frame. Reflections and interference patterns between beams are not a major player in the operation of these devices, only interruption of individual beams.  Furthermore the sensors don't care if you are running in portrait or landscape mode, they only give an x-y coordiante of where the interuption occurs.


 

How wonderful to hear from someone who does understand this stuff.

 

I think that the small scale of the interaction on these touch screens might be getting into the realm of diffraction.  I've seen some posts on this forum describing odd behavior in the screen that sounds like that.  I know from experimentation that I can interrupt the grid with a simple piece of porch screen or a piece of colored filter gel.

 

This would make a great science class project.:smileyhappy:

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DeltaT wrote:

According to two Kindle Specialists at Amazon, the Kindle Touch does have landscape mode.  I'm still skeptical, since it would seem to be a nifty trick to perform with the infrared grid, but that is what they read off of the in-house product specs.


Why skeptical? Sony has had the infrared grid touchscreen for over a year on the x50 series and those do landscape mode just fine, as does the new T-1, using the same infrared grid touchscreen.

 

I'd guess the only reason Nook doesn't have it is that B&N doesn't want to bother.

 

Anyway, it's not a feature I use that often on my Sony readers, but when I do need it, it is very nice to have. I've been very happy with the Sonys, will be re-homing my Nook Classic soon.

 

It's particularly nice I think that the browser on the new T-1 can also be used in landscape mode.

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After dininer, I took one of my friends to B & N to check out the Simple Touch "with" the Update 1.1.

I wanted to see just how much crispier the letters are, and how faster the pages turn before I go ahead with the update.

 

Well, the very first thing I did was to check the software version on the Simple Touch, and to my disappointment, it still had the out-dated version.

So I started asking this "Nook" guy on the other side of the counter, and he started saying that the update was not available yet. I politely replied that there was an "announcement" today and that there "was" an update available on B & N. He "confidently" started explaining that the software will be available and installed on a "rolling" basis, so the Simple Touch "with the update" will be eventually available.

 

Man, I could have asked him why he doesn't just update it manually, but honestly, I didn't have a heart to tell him I knew more about Nooks than he did. :smileywink:

 

I guess I'm a real Nookie.

 

Even last Saturday, I was at a local Bestbuy to check out the Kindle. I was playing around with it when this smart-lookin' BB salesperson approached me and asked if I needed any help. I told him I already had a NC and ST, but just wanted to see how Kindle was. "HE" started asking me about Nook (i.e. free Fridays, lend me functions, etc.) Then, all of a sudden, a customer (mother & daughter) approached us and I somehow helped this salesperson to sell a ST to them!!

 

I should get a commission for this sale~ puhaha

Anyway, that was the first time I was called a Nookie, and I loved it :smileytongue:

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B&N continues to fumble. I said in the other thread that B&N requires swift kicks in the jewels by the competition to even get moving and even then they release half-assed, meaningless software.

 

Was the text unreadable? No it was great actually.

 

Page turning was slow? Not really.

 

Battery was bad? No.

 

Fix things that weren''t broken? Yep.

 

Sam may as well delete the N2E 1.1 Wishlist thread. Wait is Sam still the Mod? I havent returned to these forums in some time...

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Can someone tell me the exact "name" of the folder I need to drop the Simple Touch update into?  I dragged and dropped it into the Nook Drive--nothing.  Then put it into the "Android" folder--nothing?  I cannot figure out where to put it to un-zip!!

 

By the way, why is this called the 1_1 when the previous update was1_3, are they going backwards?

 

Thanks

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sockhermom wrote:

Can someone tell me the exact "name" of the folder I need to drop the Simple Touch update into?  I dragged and dropped it into the Nook Drive--nothing.  Then put it into the "Android" folder--nothing?  I cannot figure out where to put it to un-zip!!

 

By the way, why is this called the 1_1 when the previous update was1_3, are they going backwards?

 

Thanks


Are you sure you have a Nook Simple Touch Reader?  It sounds like you have a Nook Color.  The last update to the Nook Color was 1.3.

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So, what's the rollback on this?  I didn't manually install the 1.0.1 update, so I don't have it saved to my machine.  After I restore to factory, is there somewhere I can find it?

 

Honestly I should have learned not install nook updates.  Ever.

 

It didn't break anything, I just dislike B&N's font "improvements" as now everything looks bold.  The text isn't more crisp, IMO, it's just darker and thicker, which for me makes it harder on the eyes as there's less white space around each letter.

 

So... back to 1.0 I go.