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DeanGibson
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Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow

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Yesterday my local B&N called me to let me know that I could pick up this morning, the Nook Glow I had reserved two weeks ago.  After seeing some of the comments about the Nook Glow display not being as sharp as on the Nook Touch, I decided to do a detailed side-by-side comparison, wanting to use the screensaver author images for the comparison.  When the "Nook Specialist" saw what I was doing, she attempted to help by displaying the same text on both devices (the Nook Touch having an anti-glare screen also installed).

 

Yes, the text (and some icons) on the Nook Touch appeared very slightly higher contrast, but upon closer examination, it appeared that the width of the fonts being used on the Nook Touch were slighly thicker (bolder in a typographical sense), which would create a sense of sharpness and improved readiability.  At any rate, the difference was miniscule.

 

So, after she was done "helping" me and went to another customer, I resumed my comparison of the images.  I wanted to use the images for comparison, because some of the images have fine lines, and I thought this would be a better comparison of any "sharpness" issue.

 

I could find no consistent difference when comparing the images.  For the difference in the text/icon comparison, perhaps the rendering engine in the v1.1.5 software (Nook Glow) is slightly different than in the v1.1.2 software (Nook Touch).

 

The following observations were made at home, in a dark room when appropriate:

 

Note that even the slightest amount of "GlowLight" appeared to significantly improve the contrast on the Nook Glow (well beyond that of the Nook Touch), even in normal light.  I did note that when viewing dark areas new the top of the screen, that the dark areas were very slightly "blotchy".  This was not a factor in viewing text.

 

With the GlowLight turned well up, the lighting was slightly brighter in the top 1/2' or so of the display.  Yes, you can see the LEDs if you hold the device at the right angle, but that's an angle that no one in their right mind would use for reading.  On my unit, the bright line at the top edge was similarly not visible at normal reading angles.

 

My verdict:

 

  • Some of the reviews are really picky (and I consider myself to be a perfectionist).
  • Any concern about sharpness is unfounded (same parenthetical comment).
  • The evenness of the lighting is not perfect (there, I've restored my reputation).
  • Very little GlowLight is required to read in a very dark room (as others have noted as well).

 

Software design/implementation/documentation minor flaws:

 

  1. Pressing and holding the "n" button to turn the GlowLight on/off seems to need about three seconds, not the two seconds mentioned in the manual and on the screen.
  2. When you have the GlowLight on and the screen times out and reverts to the screensaver image, the screen & manual say to press the "n" button for two seconds to turn the GlowLight on, so that you can see to swipe/unlock the screen.  In fact, you need to press and release the "n" button to get the swipe/unlock graphic to appear, and then press and hold the "n" button again to turn the GlowLight on.  However, it is not necessary to see in order to swipe/unlock the screen;  that can be easily done by feel in total darkness.
  3. If the above case, if you don't turn the GlowLight back on before the swipe/unlock and you want it on thereafter, you will have to turn it on after the swipe/unlock.  I think one might expect it to come back on after the swipe/unlock if you had it on before, and it would be nice to have that as an option, or (only if the light was on) turn the light on and pop up the GlowLight setting page (so that you would notice if you resumed reading in a bright environment.).

 

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow

Thanks for the detailed review!  I expect to get mine this weekend, finally. 

 

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow

Excellent write-up!

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow


kenwinston wrote:

... 

2. The battery life is not what's advertised. Based on my reading patterns of about an hr/night, the battery with the glow light lasts no more than 3 days. This isn't a huge problem but I really expected the device to live up to the ad of roughly a month.

 ...


Many people have reported similar experiences with new Nooks (even the non-glow).  It seems the battery monitor often takes a week or so to calibrate, so it shows as draining very quickly when in fact there's actually still plenty of juice left. A few charging cycles usually resolves the issue.

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow

DeanGibson,

 

Unlike others, I do NOT want to thank you for your post.  I am TRYING to stay happy with my perfectly wonderful 11-month-old NST.  A well written, detailed, and blanced review like this is NOT helping me.

 

Cut it out.

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Byteguy wrote:

DeanGibson,

 

Unlike others, I do NOT want to thank you for your post.  I am TRYING to stay happy with my perfectly wonderful 11-month-old NST.  A well written, detailed, and blanced review like this is NOT helping me.

 

Cut it out.


If you feel this way you shouldn't read any threads titled with anything regarding the "Nook Glow."

 

 

DeanGibson,

 

Thanks for this great in depth comparison. I was kind of hesitant as many people were commenting that the Glow Light lost a great deal of contrast compared to the NST.

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow


Byteguy wrote:

DeanGibson,

 

Unlike others, I do NOT want to thank you for your post.  I am TRYING to stay happy with my perfectly wonderful 11-month-old NST.  A well written, detailed, and blanced review like this is NOT helping me.

 

Cut it out.


lol.

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow

kenwinston, there is no reason for you to spam the boards.  We were able to read your post the first time.

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow


Steph0690 wrote:

Byteguy wrote:

DeanGibson,

 

Unlike others, I do NOT want to thank you for your post.  I am TRYING to stay happy with my perfectly wonderful 11-month-old NST.  A well written, detailed, and blanced review like this is NOT helping me.

 

Cut it out.


If you feel this way you shouldn't read any threads titled with anything regarding the "Nook Glow."

 

 

DeanGibson,

 

Thanks for this great in depth comparison. I was kind of hesitant as many people were commenting that the Glow Light lost a great deal of contrast compared to the NST.


Umm... pretty sure Byteguy was making a joke...

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keriflur wrote:

Steph0690 wrote:

Byteguy wrote:

DeanGibson,

 

Unlike others, I do NOT want to thank you for your post.  I am TRYING to stay happy with my perfectly wonderful 11-month-old NST.  A well written, detailed, and blanced review like this is NOT helping me.

 

Cut it out.


If you feel this way you shouldn't read any threads titled with anything regarding the "Nook Glow."

 

 

DeanGibson,

 

Thanks for this great in depth comparison. I was kind of hesitant as many people were commenting that the Glow Light lost a great deal of contrast compared to the NST.


Umm... pretty sure Byteguy was making a joke...


If it was a joke I apologize. When I read the post it didn't really seem like one so if it was I'm sorry. :smileyhappy:

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Steph0690 wrote:


If it was a joke I apologize. When I read the post it didn't really seem like one so if it was I'm sorry. :smileyhappy:


It was a joke.  Don't worry, my daughters inform me all the time that no reasonable human can understand my humor (sorry, keriflur).

 

Dean wrote a very well written and researched review without a bunch of soap-box delcarations. Very informative and refreshing.

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Byteguy wrote:
It was a joke.  Don't worry, my daughters inform me all the time that no reasonable human can understand my humor (sorry, keriflur).


I resemble that remark.  :smileywink:

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Getting turned on

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You can turn the GlowLight™ on/off in the following ways:

 

  1. One click: Press and hold the "n" button for two three seconds.
  2. Two clicks (when not reading an eBook): Tap the top bar light bulb icon to pop-up the "Quick Settings" dialog, then tap the GlowLight™ on/off (or adjust the intensity).
  3. Three clicks (when reading an eBook):  Tap the center of the page, then tap the top bar light bulb icon to pop-up the "Quick Settings" dialog, then tap the GlowLight™ on/off (or adjust the intensity).
  4. Three clicks: Click the "n" button, then tap the GlowLight™ icon at the bottom to pop-up the "Quick Settings" dialog, then tap the GlowLight™ on/off (or adjust the intensity).
  5. Four clicks: Click the "n" button, then tap the "settings" icon at the bottom, then tap the GlowLight™ menu item, then tap the GlowLight™ on/off (or adjust the intensity).

 

Why the "GlowLight™" menu item is a separate menu item (#5), rather than under the "screen" menu item (same number of clicks/taps), is unknown to me;  that's where it belongs (from a design point of view), and would result in a "cleaner" menu item list.  It's not like method #5 is the fastest way to turn the GlowLight™ on/off anyway; it's the slowest, and will probably be used the least.  I understand that B&N is proud of this feature, but I think the software designers got carried away ...

 

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Re: Getting turned on

I'd like to throw my two cents in as well about the NST vs the NSTG

 

1) The glowlight is really handy, I was skeptical that the claim of being more than enough even on a minimal setting was true, but it really is, and I'd advise anyone who has battery issues to see if they've adjusted the brightness to a higher than needed setting. The light, while not -perfectly- distributed is fairly well distributed.  It's certainly done in a way that no area of the screen is hard to read because it's not lit up. 

 

There is a slightly noticible brighter band at the top of the screen, which makes sense since that's where the light is coming from.  It's not a factor when reading.  As was mentioned you can see the lights if you tilt the NSTG to the right angle, that angle is such that you'd likely be unable to read. 

 

The light itself is a soft white, not a harsh white which some may have thought from the ads B&N is running. 

 

2) The reading experience is virtually unchanged from the NST.  Yes the fonts appear slightly different, likely because of an upgrade in the font rendering.  The same thing happened with the last NST software update to the current 1.1.2.  You wont notice it after a short time reading.  Unless you plan on reading on the NSTG and the NST side by side.  But really, why are you reading the same book twice at the same time? 

 

3) The glowlight controls.  You can turn it on before you unlock your Nook, you can turn it on after, you can turn it on by tapping or holding down the n button.  Honestly I've found I just unlock my Nook in the dark and turn the glowlight on after that, I also leave it in the book I'm reading rather than always exiting to the home screen or shop etc.

 

4) The built in screen protector.  I really don't know why this was included.  Perhaps it's a benefit to the glowlight?  I never had an issue with my NST and the screen, and the case I had was just the silicon case that leaves the screen uncovered.  But I also have not seen an issue with the screen protector, save perhaps that it's the cause of the font oddness instead of the rendering engine.  (No matter what causes it the rendering issue is -minor- to say the least).

 

 

Get the NSTG if you read in low or no light situations.  The reading lights out there are poor at best and frustrating at worst, seldom giving any where near the light coverage offered in the NSTG and requiring batteries.  There are some models that allow for recharging without removing the battery but they often come at the cost of weight and bulk.  Two huge issues if you're looking at the NST since, likely, its slim and light design are one of the factors in your decision. 

 

Get an NST (or stick with yours) if you don't read in low or no light situations.  There is no measurable benefit to the NSTG over the NST if you do not use the glowlight function.  The approximately half ounce difference in weight is not something you should be overly concerned with at these weights (7.45 vs 6.95 approx).  The screen protector is really not a major issue, and you can get them for less than the 40 dollar difference in the NST/NSTG. 

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Mercury_Glitch wrote: ... the 40 dollar difference in the NST/NSTG. 

$60 (albeit the latter also has the power adapter), through at least May 12.

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Re: Nook Touch vs. Nook Glow

Thanks for the reviews everyone! I am feeling more and more like this is the ereader for me. Patiently (not really) awaiting the arrival of my NST-GL (green lantern?) in my local store. Really regretting the in store preorder option at this point. :smileysad:
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Beware cats playing with your NST GrowLight

Not to be Buzzkill Bob, but I have read here of:

 

1. The B&N caution that screen protectors are not to be used on the NST with GrowLight.

2. Some people's cats like to play with their devices.

 

While I quite like the device, I did come across a Gizmodo article in which the author damaged his shiny new screen, only to have a noticeable "light hole" appear afterwards. While this is in no way a product defect, it might be a consideration for those who do use screen protectors to ward off literary felines. I would expect that the screen will be similarly susceptible to scratches changing the light path.

 

A protective case or kitten mittens might be in order.

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I had wondered what a nick in the screen protector would do, and it looks like it's what I was concerned it might be. 

 

Once everyone here's opened their glowworms and we can do the side-by-side screen comparison to see if the unevenness is basically the same between the two units or not, we'll make the keep / no keep decision and then sign up for the extended warranty. 

 

My flip cover for the NST will be good for this unit also - a length of corduroy about 3x the length the device, a piece of craft plywood just a smidge narrower and shorter than the screen, an iron and lots of batting to wrap the wood in the corduroy and leave a tongue ~ the length of the device.  Velcro on the tongue, velcro on the back, position carefully and a flip cover for a cost of maybe 5 bucks. 

 

I do wonder if a few drops of clear acrylic resin could be used to patch those holes, but hope to avoid finding out! 

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Soft screen protector?

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bobstro wrote: ... a Gizmodo article in which the author damaged his shiny new screen, only to have a noticeable "light hole" appear afterwards. While this is in no waya product defect, it might be a consideration for those who do use screen protectors to ward off literary felines. I would expect that the screen will be similarly susceptible to scratches changing the light path.

This was a prior concern of mine as well, and in the store I used my fingernail to try to scratch the screen on the demo.  I did it gently right next to and parallel to the edge, where it wouldn't be noticed if it marked.

 

Not even the slightest mark.  I'm sure at some level of force a mark would result, but I was looking for the susceptability to superficial scratches.

 

I've had a dozen cats (currently two), and I would say a cat has to be pretty frisky to have a chance at scratching the screen.

 

As for the Gizmodo article, perhaps if there had been no screen protector, the window might have been cracked instead?

 

Remember, screen protector damage within the first 14 days means a returned unit, so I would think B&N gave some thought to this in the design.  Then again, there's B&N's advance thought on the robustness of the NC/NT USB connector ...

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Re: Soft screen protector?

I've probably used my Glow close to 10 hours since I got it, with the assistance of a very helpful cat, and so far he hasn't paid any attention to the screen. Still, maybe I should get the protection plan. They do offer it for this model, right?