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Tim40744 wrote:

Oh definitely...always avoid even-numbered versions of Windows. It's the opposite of Star Trek movies.


Win8 is the 9th consumer-specific Windows version launched (1.0, 3.1, 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista, 7, 8). It gets even more muddled when you account for the old habit of NT/DOS splitting of the OS giving you sort-of client launches like 2000. And the official version number for Win8 is actually 6.2.

 

So yeah, Microsoft is a weird company.

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Are you asserting that the CEO of Barnes and Noble is an MBA?  Show us the evidence. 


http://barnesandnobleinc.com/our_company/management_team/william_lynch/william_lynch.html

 

Mr. Lynch graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a degree in Economics and received his MBA from the Columbia School of Business.

 

Now go away.

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http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/06/01/windows-8-now-up-to-4-27-market-share-but-not-at-windows-7s...

 

As of now, windows 8 and Vista are neck-and-neck - both below 5% of Windows usage. Win 7 and XP are at 44 and 37% share respectively.

 

Ceasing support for an app that runs on 85% of the systems customers use, not commenting on reports that the hardware is end of development - to many folks that looks like a company moving away from a line business, regardless of what's actually planned.

 

 

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roustabout wrote:

 

not commenting...


That, right there, is B&N's big sin. If B&N told people what they were doing, and how they expected customers to adapt, that would go a long way. But silently pulling the programs from distribution and leaving customers going WTF??? is a great way to get the rumor mill going about whether B&N is pulling out of the e-book business or not.

 

Not that this is anything new. To B&N, customers are just a source of revenue, not human beings who have a legitimate need to be kept informed about company moves that affect them.

 

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keriflur wrote:

Um, no. Windows 8 is Vista. The present is Win7, and the future is whatever comes after Win8.


And the future is going to include the Windows App Store, which will include the NOOK for Win8 App.


You assume Nook will still be around in the future.

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[ Edited ]

flyingtoastr wrote:

deesy58 wrote:

 

Are you asserting that the CEO of Barnes and Noble is an MBA?  Show us the evidence. 


http://barnesandnobleinc.com/our_company/management_team/william_lynch/william_lynch.html

 

Mr. Lynch graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a degree in Economics and received his MBA from the Columbia School of Business.

 

Now go away.


Leonard Riggio

 

Founder and Chairman, Barnes & Noble Inc.

 

Leonard Riggio is the chairman of Barnes & Noble, Inc. (NYSE: BKS), a Fortune 500 company, which is the world’s largest bookseller. In addition, he is the chairman and principal shareholder of several privately held companies, including Barnes & Noble College Booksellers, serving more than 500 college and universities across America. He is also the founder and largest shareholder of GameStop (NYSE: GME), a Fortune 500 company, which operates 5,000 video-game stores worldwide. In all, the enterprises in which he is involved employ almost 100,000 people.

Beginning with a single college bookstore in 1965, Mr. Riggio built one of the largest enterprises in the history of American retail. He is widely known as a visionary in the bookselling industry, and as a brilliant marketer and entrepreneur. Having realized his goal of making books and the world of ideas available to the general public, he continues to bring innovation to the marketplace in which he has spent his entire career.

 

Mr. Riggio devotes himself, as well, to many philanthropic initiatives, having served on nearly two dozen not-for-profit boards including the Children’s Defense Fund, the Black Children’s Community Crusade, and the Italian American Foundation.


Recently, he served as chairman of the Dia Art Foundation for eight years, where he led and funded the effort to build Dia:Beacon, one of the world’s most highly respected and revered contemporary art museums. Currently, he has founded and funded “Project Home Again,” which plans to build and donate several hundred homes for displaced citizens in New Orleans. Mr. Riggio also devotes much of his time to public education. He is a member of the board of the New York Fund for Public Schools, and has led the nation’s first-ever private endowment for a public high school, Brooklyn Technical High School, from which he graduated in 1958.

 

Mr. Riggio has received numerous awards, including the Ellis Island Medal of Honor and the Frederick Douglass Medallion. In November 2002, he received the Americanism Award from the Anti-Defamation League, its highest honor. The award cited his work “to celebrate diversity and make the dream of freedom and equality a reality for so many Americans.” Mr. Riggio is the recipient of honorary doctorate degrees from Baruch College of the City University of New York, Bentley College, and Long Island University. He has been inducted into the Academy of Distinguished Entrepreneurs at Babson College and the Texas A&M Retail Hall of Fame. He also lectures regularly on college campuses, has delivered several commencement addresses, and has been the keynote speaker to numerous educational and business groups across the country.

 

Mr. Riggio is married and has three children and three grandchildren.

 

Source: http://www.barnesandnobleinc.com

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The following was taken from the 2012 Annual Report, the latest such report that is currently available:


BARNES & NOBLE 2012 LETTER TO SHAREHOLDERS

To Our Shareholders:

Barnes & Noble accomplished great things this year, growing our business and
investing in our future even as the book industry continued to struggle. Our focus
on innovation and transforming our company to meet our customers’ growing
appetite for digital content has generated new growth opportunities as well as
partnerships with technology leaders that will open even more doors for us.
We continue to be a market leader, as our world class bookstores and award
winning NOOK™ products have quickly become the essential portals through
which readers access the rapidly expanding universe of content.

Our bookstores had a terrific 2012, growing comparable sales 1.4% for the year.
We saw traffic and comparable sales increases in our bookstores as a result of
several factors, including market consolidation, notably the effects of a bankruptcy
of a major competitor, remarkable growth in sales of NOOK products, a strong title
line-up, and growth in non-book categories such as Toys & Games. And, of course,
excellent execution by our booksellers continued to delight our customers and kept
them coming back.

Our digital business continued to grow rapidly this year. NOOK content sales
grew to almost half a billion dollars and more than doubled year-over-year.
NOOK device unit sales increased approximately 45% over last year, fueled in
large part by our innovation and our leading portfolio of NOOK products. We
added to that portfolio with the introduction of the NOOK Simple Touch™ with
GlowLight™, which has quickly become the highest rated eReader in the market.
The combined strength of our retail and digital businesses gives us a unique
competitive advantage that we believe will generate more opportunities to extend
our leadership as the e-content provider of choice going forward.

We seized one of those opportunities in 2012. Our new strategic partnership with
Microsoft refl ects recognition of the exciting potential of the NOOK business by
one of the world’s most important technology companies. Microsoft will make a
signifi cant investment in a company subsidiary called Newco, and will capitalize
this company to fuel continued growth in digital and international expansion.
This partnership will enable us to stay ahead of our customers’ demand to have
rich content when they want it, where they want it, and in the format they want.

Barnes & Noble College had another solid year. College is well positioned to be a
growth business for us as colleges and universities increasingly outsource their
distribution of campus materials. College, which completed a successful roll out
of the textbook rental off ering in fi scal 2012, is experiencing growth in highermargin
textbook rentals and the general merchandise business.

Fiscal 2012 total company consolidated revenues grew 2%, to $7.1 billion,
while earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization (EBITDA)
increased 5% to $171 million. We were able to achieve these results while
continuing to make the necessary investments in our rapidly growing digital
business.

 

Since Barnes & Noble revolutionized bookselling with the superstore concept,
change has been part of our makeup. Our ability to remake ourselves and the book
industry time and again to exceed our customers’ expectations has been a growth
strategy, not a survival tactic. In 2012, we saw the transformative actions we have
taken in recent years bear more fruit and extend our leadership position as others
in the book industry have faltered. The result is an innovative and agile company
that plays — and will continue to play — an important role in the way consumers
and their families access content and learn. The Barnes & Noble brand promise
has always been to serve our customers with great stores and wonderful products.
That promise will continue to drive our success, no matter how our customers
choose to connect with us.

Sincerely,

[signed]

[Leonard Riggio]

[Chairman]

 

Sorry about the screwed-up formatting.  Lithium doesn't seem to like it, even though it displays properly in the editing window, and even though it was copied twice, once from a .pdf file, then again from a WordPad documant. 

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Here is a list of members of the key Barnes and Noble Management Team.  It appears that only three of the ten most important positions that could influence the company's policies and future are MBAs.


Leonard Riggio is the Chairman of Barnes & Noble, Inc. (NYSE: BKS), a Fortune 500 company, which is the world’s largest bookseller.  With over 1,300 retail and Barnes & Noble College bookstores nationwide, the company he founded now employs over 45,000 booksellers.  Mr. Riggio is also the founder and largest shareholder of GameStop (NYSE: GME), which operates 7,000 stores worldwide.  In all, the enterprises in which he is involved employ almost 100,000 people.



Mitchell S. Klipper became Chief Executive Officer of Barnes & Noble's Retail Group in March 2010.  The Retail Group encompasses the company's retail business and the Barnes & Noble College Booksellers business.

Mr. Klipper holds a B.S. degree in Accounting from the University of Buffalo.  He resides in Woodbury, NY, with his wife Rosemarie and four sons.



Max Roberts is President & CEO of Barnes & Noble College Booksellers and is responsible for the leadership and management of the company.

Max graduated cum laude with a degree in Accounting and Business Administration from Oklahoma Christian University.



Jaime Carey was named Chief Merchandising Officer in May 2008 and is responsible for the merchandise buying of all departments, including book, music, DVD, magazine and gift.  

He is a 1982 graduate of Fordham University, where he earned his bachelor’s degree in English Literature.



Mark Bottini was named Vice President, Director of Stores, in October 2003.  Mr. Bottini's wealth of bookselling and operational experience serves him well in this position. He is responsible for the operations of all Barnes & Noble stores, focusing on increasing store sales, training and recruitment, and our four key competencies – putting the book in the customer’s hand, offering to order the book, offering Membership, and fast cashiering.

Mr. Bottini is a graduate of the University of Vermont.  He spent five years in active duty with the U.S. Army.  Prior to joining us in 1991, he worked for five years for May Department Stores.



Michael P. Huseby was appointed Chief Financial Officer of Barnes & Noble in March 2012. Mr. Huseby leads the company’s finance organization, and is responsible for aligning the company’s finance and business strategies, optimizing the company’s capital structure and helping to scale the rapidly growing digital business.  He also oversees the functions of planning and analysis, corporate development, accounting, treasury, tax, investor relations and internal audit.

A native of Chicago, Mr. Huseby holds a degree in business administration from the University of Colorado at Boulder.



Chris Troia was named Chief Information Officer for Barnes & Noble, Inc. in October 2004.  He is responsible for the information technology, telecommunication networks and computer systems that support the company, as well as for allocating and evaluating the effectiveness of overall technology resources and strategies, and developing new systems.

Mr Troia holds a B.S. degree from Fordham University in New York.  He resides with his wife and two children in New York City.



Ravi Gopalakrishnan is the CTO, NOOK Media LLC, and is responsible for Barnes & Noble’s NOOK® product business.  He joined our Palo Alto, CA, office in April 2009 and has led the development of our portfolio of critically acclaimed and award-winning NOOK devices, including NOOK® HD, NOOK® HD+, NOOK Tablet™, NOOK Color™, NOOK Simple Touch™ and NOOK Simple Touch™ with GlowLight™.  Consumer Reports rates NOOK Simple Touch with GlowLight the best eBook Reader (one point higher than NOOK Simple Touch, the previous top-scoring model), while NOOK Color received CNET’s Editor’s Choice award.  Our successful products have helped Barnes & Noble grow its eBook market share from 0% to over 25%.

Mr. Gopalakrishnan holds an MS in Physics from the Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur and an MBA from the Lake Forest Graduate School of Management in Chicago.



As President of Digital Products, NOOK Media LLC, Jamie Iannone is responsible for all NOOK® devices, software, accessories and retail integration and experiences; NOOK Books™ and digital content; and third-party partnerships. Under his leadership, the company has launched critically acclaimed and award-winning products including NOOK® HD and HD+, NOOK Tablet™, NOOK Color™, and NOOK Simple Touch™ with GlowLight™.

Mr. Iannone graduated as the Pyne Prize Scholar from Princeton University with a BS degree in Engineering and received his MBA from Stanford University Graduate School of Business.



William J. Lynch, Jr. became Chief Executive Officer of Barnes & Noble, Inc., in March 2010, and was appointed to the B&N Board of Directors in the fall of 2011.  He was previously President of Barnes & Noble.com, responsible for the company’s eCommerce operations.

Mr. Lynch graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a degree in Economics and received his MBA from the Columbia School of Business.

http://barnesandnobleinc.com/our_company/management_team/management_team.html

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[ Edited ]

In case anyone was confused by those three long posts, Deesy had asked 

 

"Are you asserting that the CEO of Barnes and Noble is an MBA? Show us the evidence. "

 

Flyingtoastr did so and I'm happy to restate.  The evidence has two parts.  

 

1)  Who is the CEO of Barnes and Noble?  

 

"William J. Lynch, Jr. became Chief Executive Officer of Barnes & Noble, Inc., in March 2010"

 

2) Now that we've established that the CEO is William J Lynch, does William J Lynch have an MBA?  

 

"Mr. Lynch graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a degree in Economics and received his MBA from the Columbia School of Business."

 

It would be lovely if the conversation could track back toward its start, which is the discussion of the Nook apps being pulled, but I'm not optimistic about that as an outcome.  

 

We should perhaps have a pool on when this thread will be locked instead.  

 

I'm guessing during the day Monday, with a whole weekend for peevishness.  

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There were people who actually read through all of that? I just looked at it and thought tl;dr.

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roustabout wrote:

In case anyone was confused by those three long posts, Deesy had asked 

 

"Are you asserting that the CEO of Barnes and Noble is an MBA? Show us the evidence. "

 

Flyingtoastr did so and I'm happy to restate.  The evidence has two parts.  

 

1)  Who is the CEO of Barnes and Noble?  

 

"William J. Lynch, Jr. became Chief Executive Officer of Barnes & Noble, Inc., in March 2010"

 

2) Now that we've established that the CEO is William J Lynch, does William J Lynch have an MBA?  

 

"Mr. Lynch graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a degree in Economics and received his MBA from the Columbia School of Business."


Thanks.  And now we all know that (1) deesy knows how to copy and paste, and (2) Lynch is the CEO and he has an MBA.

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I'm unclear on the relevance of his MBA.  Bad decisions are bad decisions, regardless of education or lack thereof, no? Advanced degree =/= intelligence or logical thinking.

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[ Edited ]

roustabout wrote:

In case anyone was confused by those three long posts, Deesy had asked 

 

"Are you asserting that the CEO of Barnes and Noble is an MBA? Show us the evidence. "

 

Flyingtoastr did so and I'm happy to restate.  The evidence has two parts.  

 

1)  Who is the CEO of Barnes and Noble?  

 

"William J. Lynch, Jr. became Chief Executive Officer of Barnes & Noble, Inc., in March 2010"

 

2) Now that we've established that the CEO is William J Lynch, does William J Lynch have an MBA?  

 

"Mr. Lynch graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a degree in Economics and received his MBA from the Columbia School of Business."

 

It would be lovely if the conversation could track back toward its start, which is the discussion of the Nook apps being pulled, but I'm not optimistic about that as an outcome.  

 

We should perhaps have a pool on when this thread will be locked instead.  

 

I'm guessing during the day Monday, with a whole weekend for peevishness.  


You are correct that Mr. Lynch holds the title of CEO.  I stand corrected.

 

However, who is really at the top of the organization?  Who is it that signs the letter to shareholders to be found in the Annual Report?  Who is it who founded Barnes and Noble and still holds the position of Chairman.

 

It is Mr. Riggio. 

 


 

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keriflur wrote:

There were people who actually read through all of that? I just looked at it and thought tl;dr.


I think you need an attention span longer than that of a flea, plus the ability to understand more than single-syllable words in order to understand information from a corporate annual report.  Worry not, keriflur, you can be sure that there are others on this forum with the intellect to understand such issues.  You can continue your play. 

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I was wondering when Deesy would try and derail this thread.

 

Back on topic, while it might be arguably that Windows 8 (or some form of it) is the future for Windows, it seems slightly misguided to cut off Mac users.  They may not make up the same marketshare (though they have been growing, and just how much of the PC marketshare are cold empty server rooms that see a human every few weeks if not less often), but it's a group that has already certified they are willing to pay a premium price for something they feel meets their needs.  And while Apple has been pretty industrious about releasing new versions of OS X, for the most part supporting 10.7 onward would net a large portion of the Mac users and would not be the same task as supporting Windows XP, Vista, 7, and 8.  Though why anyone keeps running Vista is beyond me.

 

B&N does not know how to build hype.  Worse it doesn't seem to know that it should WANT to build hype about new products.  When the tablet was released my regional manager had come by the store, a few days before it was going to be announced, and was freaked out that there was a leak and that we all knew most of the specs.  Note that it was not a leak in the store, someone had leaked it to tech sites and well you know the internet. 

 

This was before Amazon and B&N were running a race against each other, it was before the iPad mini, it was before the other companies really realized 'oh hey, there's something to this whole 7" tablet thing'.  There was no reason to not build hype to not get the word out and be overjoyed that tech sites were running with the story of a new device from your company (in a positive light no less).  Yet it was doom and gloom from everyone above the store level.

 

 

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deesy58 wrote:

keriflur wrote:

There were people who actually read through all of that? I just looked at it and thought tl;dr.


I think you need an attention span longer than that of a flea, plus the ability to understand more than single-syllable words in order to understand information from a corporate annual report.  Worry not, keriflur, you can be sure that there are others on this forum with the intellect to understand such issues.  You can continue your play. 


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Mercury_Glitch wrote:
Back on topic, while it might be arguably that Windows 8 (or some form of it) is the future for Windows, it seems slightly misguided to cut off Mac users.  They may not make up the same marketshare (though they have been growing, and just how much of the PC marketshare are cold empty server rooms that see a human every few weeks if not less often), but it's a group that has already certified they are willing to pay a premium price for something they feel meets their needs.  And while Apple has been pretty industrious about releasing new versions of OS X, for the most part supporting 10.7 onward would net a large portion of the Mac users and would not be the same task as supporting Windows XP, Vista, 7, and 8.  Though why anyone keeps running Vista is beyond me.

 


Based on the marketshare data posted upthread, only 5% of PC owners are running Win8.  That means that 95% of PC owners can no longer download a Nook app for their machine, unless they know about NookStudy (which I'd guess the strong majority have never heard of).  I don't think it ultimately matters what the "future" of Windows is when a company is shutting out 95% of PC users and 100% of mac users today.  B&N's made their decision and consumers have no choice but to decide what's best for them.

 

B&N's actions are only supporting the speculation that they are shuttering their ereader business.  With no word from them to the contrary, what are people supposed to think?

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mg wonders 'how much of the PC marketshare are cold empty server rooms'

 

For the data I linked, probably not much - it's data based on browsers visiting a network of 40k websites.  At my office, the folks who browse casually from servers have their login privileges pulled [minimum.]  

 

The decision is bizarre though, and I haven't come up with any response past disappointment, at least in terms of how it suggests anything to me except that BN has decided to give up on both hardware and software for ebooks and will unload or shutter that part of the business.

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BN has been attempting to hire Cocoa developers for years now (at least, they've had it posted for at least that long), and the death of the clients happens to coencide with that position no longer being posted. My guess is this is part of the company's plans to "reign in" spending by cutting payroll, one of BN's management's favorite go-to options.

 

Not having a native client isn't the end of the world since NOOK for Web works reasonably well for most books. The majority that I can't read in my account are enhanced, which I couldn't do on the native clients anyway, though there are a few oddities in there. And with the growth of web technologies like NaCl and HTML5 web apps are going to be just as capable as a native client, even supporting offline viewing and such.

 

But it was a stupid move to simply remove the clients entirely. It's fine to EOL them since they obviously weren't getting much support as-is, but leaving the download links active with a disclaimer would be far preferable to just removing them. Just put a little "NOOK for PC/Mac is no longer supported. Please use NOOK for Web for the best experience." underneath the download link, so if people want them they can still download the programs while still getting a CYA if there's things that don't work.

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I have yet to come across a new release that can be read in Nook for Web, and only about half of the backlist in my library can. So for me, it's not most, it's few.