Satisfied, yet Underwhelmed with My NSTG Due to Storage

[roustabout]

"providing external storage capability was a reasonable compromise"

I could only agree with this if there was a way to manage titles stored per device more effectively than there is as well as a supported mode for putting your library on that external storage (and thus being able to use some of the helpful stuff the Nooks can do, like track reading position.)

As it stands, since you can't do per-device management and the devices have such different layouts, the folks who are most heavily invested with BN are the ones getting the worst customer service on the current generation of e-ink devices. 

I think that's all kinds of bassackwards. 

[Sun_Cat]

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embeccamom wrote:

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Sun_Cat wrote:

Or not, since there are still no links anywhere on bn.com that lead here. AFAIK the only way of finding these boards is via search engine.  

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I read this comment all the time...there most certainly is a link to these forums on bn.com.

On the top bar, where it says, "Books", "NOOK Books", etc, hover on "Books". The drop down menu shows "Blogs & Forums". Click on that, and here you are.

They don't make it easy or obvious, but there is a link. That 's how I found these boards.

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You're so right! Thanks for correcting my misconception.

[bobstro]

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roustabout wrote:

[...] As it stands, since you can't do per-device management and the devices have such different layouts, the folks who are most heavily invested with BN are the ones getting the worst customer service on the current generation of e-ink devices. 

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For a company that gets the hardware so right, B&N sure manages to screw up the software side of things. Nothing you're describing couldn't be addressed with some long-requested software fixes and enhancements. Most of the shortcomings on the NC and NT are software as well.

[The_Nookster]

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Sun_Cat wrote in part.

Imagine how embittered these folks will be when they can only get the stock support answer, "Archive some of your books."

That's all well and good if you're able to, but in my case I have NO archive acessability what so ever.  No place on my NST am I able to archive.. nor is there any way to archive via a link or otherwise.

The "shelves" option is absolutely useless.  As it stands now, I have to write down on paper which books I've read.  It would be a lot easier if I could just _______ (????  Place appropriate word in blank), that would allow me to know which books I've read.. and those I haven't.

The_Nookster

[DeanGibson Distinguished Bibliophile]

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The_Nookster wrote:

... in my case I have NO archive acessability what so ever.  No place on my NST am I able to archive.. nor is there any way to archive via a link or otherwise.

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Try this:

1. Open the eBook for reading.
2. Tap somewhere in the middle of the screen (preferably where there is no text).
3. When the reading menu strip pops up, tap "more".
4. Tap the "Archive" button.

 Pages 39 and 57 of the Nook Touch User's Guide.

[The_Nookster]

Thanks for the input Dean, but there is "NO" archive button. 

*Right now I have JD Nixon's "Blood Ties" open to page #38.

*I've center tapped the screen and touched more at the lower right corner.

*The following appears on the more linked screen.

     *Close X in box @ top right corner

     *Blood Ties with JD Nixon below Close X, but @ far left next to screen edge.

     *Book cover below title and author.

     *Open centered and to right of book cover.

     *Size: 1.13MB below book cover

     *Author: JD Nixon below Size.

     *Where: Location of book that's on the ST.

     *Modified: Mon, May ,2012

As you can see, there is "NO" way for me to archive book because there's not even the word/link "ARCHIVE" shown on screen. 

As many have suggested.. it sure would be nice if B&N were to get their crap together when it comes to the "shelves" and/or have the ability to delete/move/mark a book when one is finished reading it.  This having to write down the books I've read..and then cross check the list against those that are on the ST just don't get it! 

The_Nookster

[Ya_Ya]

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The_Nookster wrote:

Thanks for the input Dean, but there is "NO" archive button. 

*Right now I have JD Nixon's "Blood Ties" open to page #38.

*I've center tapped the screen and touched more at the lower right corner.

*The following appears on the more linked screen.

     *Close X in box @ top right corner

     *Blood Ties with JD Nixon below Close X, but @ far left next to screen edge.

     *Book cover below title and author.

     *Open centered and to right of book cover.

     *Size: 1.13MB below book cover

     *Author: JD Nixon below Size.

     *Where: Location of book that's on the ST.

     *Modified: Mon, May ,2012

As you can see, there is "NO" way for me to archive book because there's not even the word/link "ARCHIVE" shown on screen. 

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You can't archive a non-B&N book.  You shouldn't see any of that info for a B&N book, definitely not a file location since B&N puts ebooks on a partition hidden to the consumer.  What you should see for a B&N directly downloaded book is this.

That suggests that this book isn't a BN-direct-downloaded book.  That might be why you can't archive this book.

(The display you describe is exactly what I see when I follow the same procedure on my sideloaded content, though.)

[Steph0690]

After reading this whole thread I am assuming that although we can add an external SD Card ebooks purchased from B&N cannot be saved to this external storage? 

[Ya_Ya]

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Steph0690 wrote:

After reading this whole thread I am assuming that although we can add an external SD Card ebooks purchased from B&N cannot be saved to this external storage? 

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Exactly.

(If you archive them all you can sideload them to the SD Card but there's no officially supported method for B&N content to direct download to that SD card.)

[RHWright]

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Steph0690 wrote:

After reading this whole thread I am assuming that although we can add an external SD Card ebooks purchased from B&N cannot be saved to this external storage? 

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Not directly, no.

You could download it to your desktop, then sideload to the card. But then it is treated like any other sideloaded content.

Keep hoping B&N will correct this way of handling the memory.

That said, you can usually fit several hundred books or more in the B&N partition, so for most folks it's not a problem.

[Steph0690]

Thanks for the quick replys 

That kinda sucks. When you read that the NST/NSTG has expandable memory, many (including myself) would simply assume that B&N Content would start downloading directly to your SD card once the internal memory is full. I don't mind if I have to sideload whenever my internal memory is full but it would be nice to not have to. Especially for those that are not very familiar with sideloading content. Its an extra step that I feel should not be necessary. I hope B&N fixes this.

[keriflur]

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The_Nookster wrote:

This having to write down the books I've read..and then cross check the list against those that are on the ST just don't get it! 

The_Nookster

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I use Goodreads to track this stuff, in my to-read and read (i.e. already read) shelves.  And I track upcoming releases and books I want with their respective shelves also.  When picking out what to read next, I consult my shelves on Goodreads and then use the search function on my nook so I never have to scroll around to find a book in my library.  Just my .02.

[roustabout]

Ya_Ya, Steph, let me explain again what my hack does:  it lets you store your entire BN library on an SD card.  In fact, your BN content will only and always download to your SD card if you apply it (until you reverse it.)  

You will have to have an SD card in your device to use your BN library.  Your device will still boot without an SD card, but the library won't work.  

There may be additional impacts, and certainly it's not a BN supported configuration, but it will work.   

On Saturday, I posted:  

I just threw together a quick hack for using your sdcard to store your library without rooting your glowworm or nook simple touch, there's a copy at

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?physd5t39dxfenx

In order to use it, you must make a "clockwork recovery" disk as described here.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360994

Drop the file, zipped, on that disk. Power off your nook touch. Put the disk in and power on. You will boot from the disk.  

Full writeup at

 http://nookworks.blogspot.com/2012/05/fat-glowworm-using-your-sd-card-as.html

[Kevin_0626]

I am not familiar with Goodreads ( browsed it once). Do you buy all your books there? If not, then how do you get your books into these shelves you speak of? Thanks for any input.

[keriflur]

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Kevin_0626 wrote:
I am not familiar with Goodreads ( browsed it once). Do you buy all your books there? If not, then how do you get your books into these shelves you speak of? Thanks for any input.

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It's built for readers to review and share their thoughts on what they're reading, or interested in reading.  They don't sell books, but they do have links to the major online booksellers for both print and digital books.  When I buy a book from B&N, Kobo, Google, or anywhere else, I go to the Goodreads site and look up the book there, and then add it to my account (it's not the actual ebook, it's effectively a link to the page about the book).  I'll then see the book in my library on Goodreads, and I can shelve it however I want.  It's basically just a way to track the library that's on your nook, and your physical books too.

You can see how I'm using it from the link in my signature.

[RHWright]

Wandering a bit OT, but I'll echo the recommendation for goodreads.

It's allowed me to start getting a handle on cataloging my library and is a great community of readers. Its recommendation engine is top-notch. And its ratings and reviews capabilities blow B&N away.

[Ya_Ya]

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roustabout wrote:

Ya_Ya, Steph, let me explain again what my hack does:  it lets you store your entire BN library on an SD card.  In fact, your BN content will only and always download to your SD card if you apply it (until you reverse it.)  

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roustabout, I know *you* made us a way to do this - and I'm somewhat interested in it, and someday when I go back to doing two people's jobs at work instead of four, I'm going to try it - I was referring instead to the fact that B&N hasn't provided a method to do it.

I should have been clearer.  

[Jadescythe]

Like some others have stated - I have an extensive BN library and I do not archive the books that I like - if I don't like the book I archive it and eventually delete it.  I prefer to keep my books on the NST/Glow so I don't have to go through the hassle of arching/unarchiving - I have over 400 books through BN and so far have not run out of room on the NST/Glow - when I do run out of room I'm not going to be a happy camper. 

Barnes and Noble really doesn't need to add more memory to their devices just add the capability for the BN Content to overflow onto the Memory Card when the internal memory is full -  I had the 1st Generation Kindle and it had the capability to overflow the Amazon purchases to the SD Card so you didn't have the worry about running out of space for your books- not sure why Barnes and Noble has not done this with their devices - so then you have the extra storage on the SD card which would solve a lot of the problems people are having with their libraries in terms of not having the storage space. 

Maybe - Hopefully it will be a software update since that would be the easiest solution. 

Just wanted to add my two cents worth to the discussion

[tmr4]

Given that B&N has hidden its downloads to the NST it doesn't seem likely that they allow overflow to be downloaded to the SD card.