overdrive app

[Nom-de-Nook]

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floridaphil wrote:

It is absolutely inexcusable that B&N have not made any effort to have this app added to the app market.  Telling us users that it's our responsibility to lobby the developer is truly lame. 

HEY, B&N, GET OFF YOUR LAZY A$$ES AND ADD THIS APP TO YOUR MARKET. It is available on the Kindle, I can add it to my phone but I can't add it to a dedicated eReader?  Wow, just wow.

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I am kind of surprised it is available on the Fire.  It isn't need on the Fire or any other Kindle device since they do wireless lending from the library where Amazon actually provides the ebook instead of Overdrive (although I think Overdrive is still responsible for the paperwork).  Sony is using the same system. 

Frankly, that is what BN should be (and probably is) working on with Overdrive so they can offer wireless lending across the platform and not just on the tablets.

[DanRNJ]

No one blamed the end user for the app not being available for the NC.  I simply pointed out that B&N do not create the apps.  Your analogy fails in that what a retail store sells does not usually have be modified to make it salable by a particular chain of stores.  That is, for a hard cover book to be sold it doesn't have to be printed and covered differently for B&N than it does for everyone else.  The customization necessary to make an app usable on the NC means that the developer has to see it as in their best interest to put the effort into making that custom version available.  Requests from users are likely to have more impact on that determination than any claim from B&N that their customers MIGHT want to have the app on their NC.

[bobstro]

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gkaiseil wrote:

B&N can not sell or offer what they do not have. B&N can ask OverDrive to create the app for the NC or NCT, users can ask OverDrive to make an app for NC and NCT. But since OverDrive offers formats that the NC, NCT, N1, and N2 they may feel there is not need for an app for B&N, think profit for the bottom line of OverDrive.

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There is absolutely no need for an Overdrive app "for B&N". The existing app works just fine on B&N NOOKcolor and tablet devices, with zero modifications. The only reason this is an issue is that B&N have decided to seal off user access to both the Market and the ability to sideload apps in order to preserve what B&N feel the consumer owes them.

Companies that publish Android software are usually much smaller than B&N, and are already struggling to keep up with the various software versions, device types and manufacturers out there. For B&N to require extra steps to support their devices in order to enhance B&N capabilities is absurd.

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What many posters need to learn is how to side load the OverDrive books to their Nook devices.

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What B&N need to do is quit trying to squeeze profit out of every single action users do on the device they've purchased.

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I have even loaded OverDrive files to devices not listed by OverDrive.

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I have even loaded OverDrive on B&N devices. It works just fine.

[bobstro]

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DanRNJ wrote:

[...]  Your analogy fails in that what a retail store sells does not usually have be modified to make it salable by a particular chain of stores.  That is, for a hard cover book to be sold it doesn't have to be printed and covered differently for B&N than it does for everyone else.  The customization necessary to make an app usable on the NC means that the developer has to see it as in their best interest to put the effort into making that custom version available.  Requests from users are likely to have more impact on that determination than any claim from B&N that their customers MIGHT want to have the app on their NC.

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This is absolutely incorrect. The Overdrive app works just fine on B&N devices. Many Android apps can work just fine on the NOOK family with zero modification.  Until B&N decided to block sideloading on the NOOKtablet, these apps could be loaded by users and function just fine. B&N decided to block sideloading. When 3rd party apps are enabled on a NOOKcolor, Overdrive works with zero modification.

Some apps need to be tweaked for larger screens, some might actually be optimized for B&N devices. For those, I have no problem buying a B&N branded version, the same way I buy some apps from Verizon to use on my Verizon phone. The problem is that B&N has blocked my ability to use any other software from any other source other than their paltry store offering, even when those apps can run with zero modification on the device. The reason is nothing more than B&N determining that they should be the arbiter of consumer content on "their" devices (the ones that "I" pay for.)

The actual analogy would be more like requiring the book cover to be different for sale at the B&N store, with zero other actual change.

[DanRNJ]

But we are posting in the forum for the Nook Color, not the Tablet.  What B&N has blocked or not blocked on the tablet was not a factor in my post.

[bobstro]

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DanRNJ wrote:

But we are posting in the forum for the Nook Color, not the Tablet.  What B&N has blocked or not blocked on the tablet was not a factor in my post.

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Please see the last sentence in the first paragraph of my post. You assertion that (emphasis mine): "The customization necessary to make an app usable on the NC means that the developer has to see it as in their best interest to put the effort into making that custom version available." is incorrect. There is no customization of Overdrive necessary for it to work as intended, and rather well on the NC running B&N firmware. It also runs on the B&N NOOKtablet running 1.4.0. That is why I mentioned "NOOK devices".

B&N has gone to extra lengths to block your ability to install Overdrive and other 3rd party apps with 1.4.1 for the NC, but the app still runs just fine on the B&N NOOKcolor running 1.4.1. If B&N were to allow the loading of 3rd party apps, the Overdrive app would work today without modifications. As it is, extra steps are necessary. 

When and if Overdrive is available for the NC from the B&N Market, that will take care of one obvious need, but there are easily dozens of Android apps that are subject to these artificial limitations.

[BruceMcF]

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bobstro wrote:

When and if Overdrive is available for the NC from the B&N Market, that will take care of one obvious need, but there are easily dozens of Android apps that are subject to these artificial limitations.

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However, Overdrive is the app that is smack in the middle of the idea of the Nook Color as an "eReader++". For myself, our library had to give up their Overdrive access because of budget cuts, but of the apps I've added to my CM7 SD card, 1 good tabbed browser, Crackle, Crunchyroll, Hulu Plus, and a file manager that lets me shift PG downloads from my download folder to my books folder, and I doubt I'd use the CM7 install more than once or twice a month.

[judycakes]

I have contacted customer service for Overdrive. They have submitted the app to B&N and are waiting for approval. They ask that we contact B&N to lend support for approvalal of the app. In the meantime, for $25 you can get a nook to android sd card (n2a cards) which will allow yiu to convert your nook to a fully functioning android device with full access to the android app store. I have installed Overdrive, and can download books directly from the library without dowloading to a computer first. The card doesn't void you warranty like rooting your nook does, and it's dual boot, so you can easily go back and forth between regular nook and android device.

[catarific]

I spoke to Barnes and Noble about the N2a card and got a much different story.  I was told that if you install it - it voids any warranty you may have with B&N and they strongly advised against it - I know many here are techies and use this card and probably can fix the Nook if there is a problem - but many of us rely on B&N service especially if something goes wrong.  But that decision is up to you.

[Warlock_Writer]

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catarific wrote:

I spoke to Barnes and Noble about the N2a card and got a much different story.  I was told that if you install it - it voids any warranty you may have with B&N and they strongly advised against it - I know many here are techies and use this card and probably can fix the Nook if there is a problem - but many of us rely on B&N service especially if something goes wrong.  But that decision is up to you.

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The person you spoke to at B&N may not understand the difference between N2A and rooting. Rooting does void warranty. N2A doesn't. Turn off the Nook, pop out the card, and there's no way to tell you had a card in there. If a Nook crashes and for some reason can't be recovered, again, pop out the card, and there's no way to tell it was there.

Okay, I suppose if you show up for tech support and didn't take out your N2A card, that might be a problem. Other than that, no worries.

[kimmmmykim]

I was literally going insane for the last few hours because I couldn't figure out how to get my library books to my Nook, but there is a way to do it without having an Overdrive app.

http://help.overdrive.com/article/2012/02/09/0476/Getting-started-with-a-NOOK

I tried it, and it actually works!

[leibobre]

Where did you find the overdrive app for your nook? So far, i have not been successful.

[DanRNJ]

The procedure that kimmmmykim referred to doesn't require that there be an Overdrive App installed on the Nook.  You would use the PC version of Overdrive in conjunction with Adobe Digital Editions to side load the epub file onto the Nook.  See the link in kimmmmykim's post.