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Lost Memoirs: Marriage (Spoilers!)

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Can you talk about the differences between the role of marriage in a woman's life, and the role of marriage in a man's life, as they are portrayed here?

Jane receives three proposals. What do you make of her reactions, and of the proposals themselves?

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rkubie wrote:
Can you talk about the differences between the role of marriage in a woman's life, and the role of marriage in a man's life, as they are portrayed here?

Jane receives three proposals. What do you make of her reactions, and of the proposals themselves?





I really feel that Jane was very typical to all of us , women. She wanted someone, that she adored, that respected her and wanted and loved her for her and not any other reason.
I always felt sorry for her that she didn't find this in her life. Of course, her life was cut off so very young by her disease but still, she was a geniune great lady that deserved the love she yearned for I am sure.

Because even the man she was deeply in love with, didn't love her enought to leave his family behind for her. She would always know deep inside, that something could creep between them in a heartbeat because she wasnt first within his heart.
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In this book Mr. Ashford was forced to play the role of a woman by his father's poor financial decisions. He has to marry a wealthy woman to save his family and protect his inheritance, and he does. Jane was expected to do the same thing and chose not to; she refused to marry for money and security. This is an interesting twist.
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In fact, at the end of the novel, Mr. Ashford (who is deeply in love with Jane) is determined to give up everything for her. He clearly states that he wants Jane over any piece of land, or any amount of money. It is Jane herself who, in the final moments, makes the crisis decision to end their relationship, because she believes it is best for him and his family.





kiakar wrote:


rkubie wrote:
Can you talk about the differences between the role of marriage in a woman's life, and the role of marriage in a man's life, as they are portrayed here?

Jane receives three proposals. What do you make of her reactions, and of the proposals themselves?





I really feel that Jane was very typical to all of us , women. She wanted someone, that she adored, that respected her and wanted and loved her for her and not any other reason.
I always felt sorry for her that she didn't find this in her life. Of course, her life was cut off so very young by her disease but still, she was a geniune great lady that deserved the love she yearned for I am sure.

Because even the man she was deeply in love with, didn't love her enought to leave his family behind for her. She would always know deep inside, that something could creep between them in a heartbeat because she wasnt first within his heart.


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KristyR wrote:
In this book Mr. Ashford was forced to play the role of a woman by his father's poor financial decisions. He has to marry a wealthy woman to save his family and protect his inheritance, and he does. Jane was expected to do the same thing and chose not to; she refused to marry for money and security. This is an interesting twist.




Interesting comment! Of course, he also had other burdens placed on the decision, didn't he? (Do I just want to forgive him?) His sister and father, the fact that he had, by law, to inherit the property and it's responsibilities, couldn't pass it up, etc. But Jane had to make the decision!

Did you feel he was to blame a little?

Something else interesting to me about this ending is that it is very satisfying even though it is sad--it might be a broken romance, but the love was genuine in it. Did anyone else feel that way?
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rkubie wrote:


KristyR wrote:
In this book Mr. Ashford was forced to play the role of a woman by his father's poor financial decisions. He has to marry a wealthy woman to save his family and protect his inheritance, and he does. Jane was expected to do the same thing and chose not to; she refused to marry for money and security. This is an interesting twist.




Interesting comment! Of course, he also had other burdens placed on the decision, didn't he? (Do I just want to forgive him?) His sister and father, the fact that he had, by law, to inherit the property and it's responsibilities, couldn't pass it up, etc. But Jane had to make the decision!

Did you feel he was to blame a little?

Something else interesting to me about this ending is that it is very satisfying even though it is sad--it might be a broken romance, but the love was genuine in it. Did anyone else feel that way?


Although Mr. Ashford did have other burdens placed on his decision, so did Jane. She could have secured a home for herself, her mother, sister, and Martha had she accepted either of her first two offers of marriage. Her decisions caused them to remain homeless (moving from relative to relative and friend to friend) for quite awhile. That said, I do like Mr. Ashford. What really struck me was how little control young adults (unmarried grown children) had over their own lives.

I liked the ending of the story very much. We knew she couldn't marry him, so something had to happen to keep them apart. I'm just very glad he didn't end up either dying or turning out like Wickham or Willoughby!
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A similiar thought crossed my mind. Jane's decision affected mainly just herself, while Mr. Ashford's decision affected not only himself but all those he was responsible for. It was wonderful that he was willing to put himself & Jane above all that, but in the end Jane made the noble sacrifice. It was an interesting twist to have such a situation, mainly because it could have happened. It's well know that both men & women married for money & estates.

In some ways I pity Mr. Ashford quite a bit - imagine having to live with Isabelle (especially since they both had feelings for others) after having fallen in love with someone like Jane. As difficult as it was for Jane, she may have had the better life in the long run.

I agree with you about the ending too - the love was quite genuine and the sacrifice had great meaning.



rkubie wrote:

Interesting comment! Of course, he also had other burdens placed on the decision, didn't he? (Do I just want to forgive him?) His sister and father, the fact that he had, by law, to inherit the property and it's responsibilities, couldn't pass it up, etc. But Jane had to make the decision!

Did you feel he was to blame a little?

Something else interesting to me about this ending is that it is very satisfying even though it is sad--it might be a broken romance, but the love was genuine in it. Did anyone else feel that way?


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I have to admit that there was a part of me that hoped, maybe, Ms James would stray from historical accuracy and give Jane a happy ending. They were so perfect for each other...