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Fangbanger
Posts: 141
Registered: ‎02-05-2009

Anita Blake and Sex

So, I love the Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter series.  It is the first book series that I read in the paranormal & urban fantasy genre.  It led me to this book club.  If it wasn't for Anita Blake and LKH, I wouldn't be reading Kim Harrison or Patricia Briggs or Jim Butcher or Seanan Maguire or countless other amazing authors.  Seriously, how empty would my imaginary life be if it wasn't for these amazing authors?  

 

I know that people have a problem with the direction that LKH has taken Anita in, specifically her use of the ardeur and her sexual awakening.  I can understand why people have issues.  We still have a Puritannical undercurrent running through our society and people are squeamish about sex.  It seems like LKH herself was until she met and married Jon.  So, I suspect, Anita's attitude change coincides with LKH's, which is not uncommon.  I also know that there are "rules" to how these types of books should go. It's OK for the heroine to be involved in a love triangle, as long as she eventually chooses ONE of her suitors.  So, when Anita was vacillating between Richard and Jean-Claude, readers seemed to be fine with that, but once Anita, by way of LKH, decided that Anita shouldn't have to choose.  That she should be able to have multiple romantic and sexual relationships, then people blanched.  It's not so bad here, but I sometimes read message boards on a website that rhymes wtih Shmamazon.com and the people there who post about the AB: VH series are vicious.  Anita is a whore and if you are still a fan of the series after "Narcissus In Chains" then you are nothing more than some troll or troo as they are fans of calling people who dare to disagree with them.  I have tried to enter into an intelligent, respectful discourse with them and I get nowhere.

 

So, I'm curious what the readers here think of the series.  I am still a fan.  I don't have a problem with Anita exercising her sexual freedoms or "having sex like a man."  The only issue that I have sometimes is an issue I've had with a lot of the Anita books, pre and post ardeur.  Sometimes, I feel like LKH rushes the climax of the book.  It seems like she isn't sure how to end it, so she just does.  An example of this would be "Skin Trade" one of my favorite Anita books.  It's a great book, very suspenseful, a nice balance of action and ardeur and then in the last couple of chapters, Anita ends up saving the world with oral sex.  I feel like that happened because maybe LKH was on a deadline and she just didn't know what else to do.

 

So, I can't wait to read your responses.  I'll definitely participate and respond.  I just want us all to be respectful to each other.  I don't think that will be a problem here, because I have never seen anyone treated without respect on the boards.  Hopefully, me starting this thread is cool, haha.  If it's not, sorry Paul!  Don't ban me!

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SciFiCanuck
Posts: 2,075
Registered: ‎03-18-2008

Re: Anita Blake and Sex

Yeah, this has always been a HOT topic with LKH and her books...both AB and Merry G.  For me it didn't really bother me....  Sure the first 10 are so were great and mostly about her just being a vampire hunter, working with the police.  But every author has a right to change it up.,..after all they are writing the books and its their story.  :-)  I do feel sometimes though, disappointment, that more didn't happen...that some times she spends pages and pages describing stuff in detail or conversations that go on forever.  Then next thing you know you're at the end of the book going, huh....I wish there had been more to the story!!

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MADIS
Posts: 302
Registered: ‎02-27-2009

Re: Anita Blake and Sex


Fangbanger wrote:

So, I love the Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter series.  It is the first book series that I read in the paranormal & urban fantasy genre.  It led me to this book club.  If it wasn't for Anita Blake and LKH, I wouldn't be reading Kim Harrison or Patricia Briggs or Jim Butcher or Seanan Maguire or countless other amazing authors.  Seriously, how empty would my imaginary life be if it wasn't for these amazing authors?  


This is true for me too!  Anita Blake started me on my journey in the genre.  I could not be more grateful for that!  I have always been surprised at how vehemently hostile people can be with regards to this series.  I wonder if that is because, like for us, many found the genre because of Anita Blake and with that there is a possessiveness for it.  Having something that you once held dear "disappoint" you could, I guess, account for the craziness in their response?  I am just surmising here.

 

I am not current on reading this series.  The last one I read (I think) was Blood Noir, but I own at least a couple more.  I fully intend to circle back to the series.  I was never concerned about the amount of sex.  It doesn't bother me at all.  There are 3 things that made me take a break from this series:

1.  As I said the sex doesn't bother me but, and I think I have stated this on the boards before, I did get tired of Anita whining about it.  Now, I hope that as the series progressed Anita has become more accepting of the ardeur.  Whining about it doesn't change anything and having the character do that for too long made me stop reading for awhile.

2. I did feel like some of the later books lacked a solid ending.  Like you said she rushed the climax. 

3. LKH likes to restates things, like how cops view woman or whatever, at nauseum, but this is admittedly kind of me knit picking.

 

That being said, because people get to be so disrespectful regarding this series, you cannot actually have a discussion about each book without being attacked.  Either you are a prude or a deviant based on not liking or liking this series (in its later form).  It is wholly frustrating!

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MADIS
Posts: 302
Registered: ‎02-27-2009
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Re: Anita Blake and Sex

Wholly Pajamas!  The response to Paul's blog on Affliction is just despicable.  There is so much venom for the people who like the books. I fully understand why you asked that people be respectful on the board when you originally posted this.  I could not even begin to reply to the blog.  There are only a handful of people that discussed the books.  Most instead attacked the author, her character, and the character or intelligence of those who enjoy the books.  I just could not put myself in the middle of that mess.

 

 

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MADIS
Posts: 302
Registered: ‎02-27-2009

Re: Anita Blake and Sex

I had to seriously edit that last post as I am trying not to engage in the mess, but I can't stop myself from this.  BACK OFF PAUL BITCHES! Disagree?  Fine.  Disrespect?  Uh Uh!  Don't mess with our book pimp!

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Fangbanger
Posts: 141
Registered: ‎02-05-2009
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Re: Anita Blake and Sex

I'm not surprised MADIS.  That is how they roll.  They spout off this vitrolic comments and personally attack.  If you have a problem with the book, I get it, but why attack the people who enjoy the novels or someone writing a blog post.  I can't find Paul's blog.  Is there a link?

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Fangbanger
Posts: 141
Registered: ‎02-05-2009

Re: Anita Blake and Sex

Never mind.  I located it.  I was surprised to find E.A. Solinas commenting.  Well, I was and I wasn't.  She has a hateful hard on for LKH and anyone who still reads the ABVH series snark free.  I thought she didn't venture from amazon.com.  She has a whole slew of supporters there who comb LKH's blog, Twitter feed, for fodder that they can use to snark and make fun of her, all from the safety of their laptops.

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MADIS
Posts: 302
Registered: ‎02-27-2009
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Re: Anita Blake and Sex


Fangbanger wrote:

Never mind.  I located it.  I was surprised to find E.A. Solinas commenting.  Well, I was and I wasn't.  She has a hateful hard on for LKH and anyone who still reads the ABVH series snark free.  I thought she didn't venture from amazon.com.  She has a whole slew of supporters there who comb LKH's blog, Twitter feed, for fodder that they can use to snark and make fun of her, all from the safety of their laptops.


That is a whole lot of effort for no purpose.  What is there to gain?  It seems ludacris to me.  I do not understand wasting so much time on something that has no real value.  There are many causes that could use a voice.  Why not put your time into something worthwhile?  I just do not get it.

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pen21
Posts: 3,653
Registered: ‎03-23-2009

Re: Anita Blake and Sex

I am shocked about the replies that are being posted. I am up to book 8 or 9 in the series right now. If you don't like a book, just move on to another. It seems to me it is a type of online harassment.

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goldenstatewriter
Posts: 65
Registered: ‎03-27-2012

Re: Anita Blake and Sex

I actually wrote LKH after her book about Micah came out and told her I was disappointed with her for two reasons, the first being the Micah wasn't a novel and barely a novella, the only reason it made as many pages as it did was because of the oversized font and extra spacing placed in the book. That was quite a cop out for a story about a very interesting character we all wanted to know more about.

The second was that the book prior to Micah contained a sex scene (well more of an orgy scene really) that took up the entire first half of the book, it was well over 200 pages long, and most of it really had nothing to do with the actual -story- at all. I don't mind sex, I dont' even mind a lot of it, but I do mind getting a story that has been shortchanged and ignored so as to make more room for it.

 

She is a good writer, Anita Blake is a very interesting character about who I want to know more. But I do understand that porn sells, and that for a lot of folks the sex the character has with all of the monsters is really the only reason they buy the book. I can not fault her for wanting to make money. But I will fault her when she stops telling interesting stories.