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May Feature #2: IN FOR A PENNY by Rose Lerner

Rose Lerner is a brand new author writing historical romances in the vein of, you guessed it, Georgette Heyer. This is quite a feat, to be compared to such a cornerstone of romance. So, we're going to read Rose's debut novel,

In for a Penny and see what we think!

 

IN FOR A PENNY

No more drinking. No more gambling. And definitely no more mistress. Now that he's inherited a mountain of debts and responsibility, Lord Nevinstoke has no choice but to start acting respectable. Especially if he wants to find a wife-better yet, a rich wife. Penelope Brown, a manufacturing heiress, seems the perfect choice. She's pretty, rational, ladylike, and looking for a marriage based on companionship and mutual esteem.

 

IN FOR A POUND

But when they actually get to Nev's family estate, all the respectability and reason in the world won't be enough to deal with tenants on the edge of revolt, a menacing neighbor, and Nev's family's propensity for scandal. Overwhelmed but determined to set things right, Nev and Penelope have no one to turn to but each other. And to their surprise, that just might be enough.

 

For more on Rose, visit her website at www.roselerner.com.

 

My question for all you historical-lovers: why do these kinds of stories still resonate with us today, even though women don't face these exact sort of marriage issues?

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Re: May Feature #2: IN FOR A PENNY by Rose Lerner

I forgot to let you all know that Rose will be here next week!

 

For a great take on this book, read Eloisa's new column. She sums up the book far better than I could!

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Re: May Feature #2: IN FOR A PENNY by Rose Lerner

Hey everyone.  I will indeed be here next week!  I'll also be hanging around all month though, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on Penny (or, you know, other books, or original Star Trek, or whatever) whenever you feel like posting them.  :smileyhappy:

 

I'd be happy to answer questions about the book too if anyone has any!  Melanie, is this a spoiler-friendly thread?  If not, I'll set up another one where people can talk spoilers if they want to...

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Re: May Feature #2: IN FOR A PENNY by Rose Lerner

I just added this to my TBR pile, as soon as I'm done with it I will let you know what I think. From reviews and the synopsis it sounds very good and I can't wait to begin!

 

"If I were human, I believe the correct response would be 'Go to Hell'"

and my favorite

"Where are the nuclear Wessels?"

I love Star Trek, a bit of a nerd, yes.

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Don't worry about spoilers, Rose!

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This is a gorgeous cover, and I'm excited to add a new historical author to my reading list! I don't know if I'll have time to read it while Rose is still visiting - this is a crazy month for me - but I'll read it soon!

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I can't wait to hear what you think!

 

I think my favorite quote from the movies is "Revenge is a dish best served cold.  It is very cold...in space!"  AWESOME.  But I'm also a big fan of "I think he did a little too much LDS in the 60s."

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Rose_Lerner wrote:

 

I think my favorite quote from the movies is "Revenge is a dish best served cold.  It is very cold...in space!"  AWESOME.  But I'm also a big fan of "I think he did a little too much LDS in the 60s."

Are those quotes both from Star Trek movies? They're hilarious!

 

So, Rose, welcome to RR, officially! I'm glad to see you've been poking around for the past week or so though, because I get the feeling that you aren't only a romance writer but a romance fan and we always love that perspective!

 

So tell us: how'd you decide to try your hand at your own romance, and did you set out to emulate the Heyer model?

 

Oh, and can you sum up the story of the book for us?

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Melanie_Murray wrote:

 

 

Are those quotes both from Star Trek movies? They're hilarious!

 

Yes!  The revenge one is said by Khan in Wrath of Khan and the other one is Kirk trying to explain to a 1980s woman why Spock is so weird in Voyage Home, aka "the one with the whales."

 

 

So tell us: how'd you decide to try your hand at your own romance, and did you set out to emulate the Heyer model?

 

Oh, and can you sum up the story of the book for us?

 

I wrote my first romance my senior year in high school.  I'd been reading traditional Regencies since I was 12 along with a good friend of mine--there was a fabulous used bookstore in Eugene that specialized in mass market paperbacks and they had a whole WALL of Regencies.  We'd go down there every couple of months and get like ten books at a time, and loan them back and forth.  The first couple years of high school we used to write each other letters in character as Regency debutantes--we got the idea from

Sorcery and Cecelia, or The Enchanted Chocolate Pot.  From there it was a short step to writing an actual Regency.  Obviously, a first novel by a 17 year old, it wasn't very good.  But I loved it.

 

 

I wouldn't say I set out to emulate Heyer exactly.  She's definitely been a huge influence, and I can see from the reviews that it shows, which is a huge compliment!  Historical voice and banter between characters are a big part of my writing style for that reason.  And I do tend to develop the mental chemistry between my hero and heroine more than the sexual chemistry (although that's important too!).  But In for a Penny itself is more of an argument with Heyer than anything else: it's my answer to

 

 

 

A Civil Contract.  I was pretty happy with how I said this in a guest post at The Book Smugglers so I'm going to just copy and from that post:

 

"I adore Georgette Heyer. I envy her prose style to the soles of my shoes. And A Civil Contract makes me want to throw it at the wall every time I read it.

 

It’s about a penniless lord who marries the daughter of a self-made man for her money. Jenny is 'too commonplace and matter-of-fact to inspire…passionate adoration,' unlike the woman Adam loves, a high-strung aristocratic girl with beautiful eyes. So far, so good. Except at the end of the book, Jenny’s in love with Adam and he is still not in love with her. Instead, they discover that a marriage of quiet content can be more enduring than passion.

 

I’m not opposed to that sentiment, and I know a lot of readers love the book for that very reason. But why Jenny? Why is Jenny denied what every other Heyer heroine gets: the passionate adoration of her hero? What if, I thought, I wrote a marriage of convenience between a penniless lord and the daughter of a self-made man where he’s the one who feels inadequate, and she’s the one with the ex-boyfriend?


Until his father’s death, my hero Nev has never had to deal with either responsibility or business management. And my heroine, Penelope, grew up helping with the books in her father’s brewery. Nev is impressed and a little turned on by her accounting skills, but he can’t shake the lingering fear that she’d be better off with sensible, ultra-competent Edward…"

 

Which I guess answers your "summing up the book" question too!  Although that's really just the initial idea and it grew a lot from there.  When Nev marries Penny for her money he thinks his troubles are over, but when they get to his estate they realize money is the least of their problems, which include but are not limited to: hungry, resentful tenants, Nev's family's propensity for scandal, an incompetent steward, a menacing neighbor, local poaching wars, recent crop failures--and, of course, their growing love for each other.

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I adore regency romances, but I have to say that yours is just teeming with period detail that sets it a cut above, to my mind. Your knowledge of the era through your own reading really comes through.

 

I love that you touched upon the mental attachment between your characters being important. One of the most romantic things in the book to me takes place early on, when they sing together. I just loved this, and wondered why you chose music as their common ground. It isn't often that there are musically inclined heroes and heroines, and when there are I just love them!

 

And whatever happened to your friend? Is she an author now too?

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Melanie_Murray wrote:

 

I love that you touched upon the mental attachment between your characters being important. One of the most romantic things in the book to me takes place early on, when they sing together. I just loved this, and wondered why you chose music as their common ground.

You know, I don't even remember anymore.  I think I wanted Nev to be kind of a geek even though he was a bit of a ne'er-do-well, but I wanted him to be geeky about sort of right-brain stuff like poetry and music.  And Penelope is a bit too left-brain (and proud of it) to be into the same poetry, but music is something that can fly under the radar because it's still "tasteful and rational," and provide an outlet for her passionate side.

 

It was hard for me to write because while I love music, I know almost nothing about it from a technical standpoint and I listen almost exclusively to music with lyrics (opera is the only kind of classical music I really love).  I ended up reading a book about Leigh Hunt's opera reviews for The Examiner (Leigh Hunt and Opera Criticism, I think)  as research and it was fascinating.

 

Not only did it tell me lots about the staging of operas and musical theater of the time, and ways of talking about musical performance (Penny's description of Amy's singing in the scene at the theater is based on stuff from the book), and even have a list of most of the operas presented in London and a glossary of performers and composers and musicians, but it had lots of the reviews themselves included, which ended up being a great resource for class attitudes of the time too.  You would not believe how many times Hunt used the word "vulgar" in his reviews!  (To mean tacky or indicative of having bad taste, not coarse or inappropriate.)

 

...You know, I get a lot of compliments on the depth of research in Penny, but really, I do it because I'm endlessly fascinated by it.

 

 

 

 

And whatever happened to your friend? Is she an author now too?

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, I've been trying to get back in touch with her!  I lost track of her sometime during college and I have no idea what she's doing now.  Not having a Facebook account, that's for sure. 

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Rose, as I was reading the book it occurred to me that you must be one of those who enjoys research. You mentioned the Lauren Willig books in another thread and I always have the same experience reading her, too. These sort of researched romances always, always appeal to me, because I wish I had the time to read those kind of social history books.

 

Penelope is a lovely heroine, by the way. I found her desire to be in control of her emotions absolutely endearing, and this portrayal was such an interesting take on how rising in social status because of your money could cause a sense of personal policing of one's self. She seemed so aware of how her behavior might be contrued by Nev and his mother without being self-loathing. I really thought that was well done on your part.

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Thank you so much!  It's always great when someone gives me positive feedback on an aspect of the book I worked really hard on, and that's one!  I definitely wanted her to have these insecurities without either her being a doormat or me criticizing her for being oversensitive--because I do think that kind of fear is something that would happen naturally in that situation no matter how strong a person you were.

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I thought the way you depicted her inner struggles was really wonderful. Penelope had dimension and flaws but tried to do the right thing. I loved how whenever she "followed her heart" something always went wrong, and I loved how she reacted to that. Usually characters who are so controlled in their emotions are hard to connect to, but I found her really sympathetic.

 

Also, Nev was sympathetic too. He was insecure without being pathetic, another great feat on your part.

 

Can you tell I really liked your book?

 

Even the romantic foils were sympathetic, three-dimensional characters. I felt for Amy and Edward, and I was expecting to not care about them, or to hate them.

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Stop, I'm blushing!  *g* 

 

It's like my critique partner Susanna Fraser always says (I think she's quoting someone, but I heard it from her first): "Everyone is the hero of their own story."  I get frustrated by stories where the hero and heroine are full characters and then everyone else is kind of defined by how they relate to the h/h...like "this person doesn't like the hero so she is a bitch!" or "this guy isn't a good match romantically for the heroine so he is boring" or whatever.    Because that's not how it works in real life.  So I try really hard to make sure my minor characters have their own points of view that a reader could identify with.

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"Everyone is the hero of their own story."

 

I'm quoting Joss Whedon with that one, as a matter of fact.  I'm pretty sure he says it on the DVD commentary for Firefly, referring to Jayne.

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I've added this to my TBR pile - Melanie, you're not helping! It's growing bigger all the time, no matter how fast I read!