08-27-2007 11:16 PM
This thread is appropriate for those who have read through Chapter 5. Please be mindful regarding spoilers for material in later chapters.
09-03-2007 04:52 PM
09-05-2007 03:34 PM
Which of the sisters resonates with you personally? Claire believes everything—everyone—is temporary. Sydney’s philosophy is “you can’t hold on to everything,” and so has a history of very temporary, noncommittal relationships. Are their outlooks two sides of the same coin? What is the nature of the shift that occurs for each of them?
IS Sydney's philosophy "you can't hold on to everything"? I wouldn't have put it that way, and don't believe she can be summed up nearly that simply.
Sisters are funny. I only have one sibling, a two and a half year younger sister. We are as opposite as two human beings can be. I follow my wanderlust and have moved from city to city. Now I'm 3,000 miles from home. My sister lives across the street from my parents.
You might guess that I relate to Sydney, and clearly in some ways I do. But I do understand Claire's deep need for permanent relationships, just not all the fear she's attached to that desire. I would guess most people have shades of both Sydney and Claire.
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09-07-2007 11:54 PM
09-08-2007 07:51 PM
I can relate to Claire because I, too, like routine and stability and I find myself having a hard time letting people or events into my routine. Sydney runs away from things, situations, and is non-committal. But suddenly, Claire finds herself wanting to include Tyler into her life, which would disrupt her routine and Sydney is finding that she is wanting to add stability and commitment to her life in her hometown.
Your post makes clear what Sydney and Claire are both unaware of early on- they're more alike than they know.
09-10-2007 02:11 AM
This is a wonderful book so far. I'm just on Chapter 6 now.
09-11-2007 10:21 PM
09-13-2007 08:41 AM
Sydney, on the other hand, has no problem at all letting people in, but she is determined to be the one doing the leaving--she wants to leave you before you can leave her (understandable given her mother's abandonment).
Claire is (well, tries very hard to be) in complete control of who she allows to get close enough to her that they are able to hurt her and Sydney tries to be in complete control of whether or not she is ever again abandoned. Both behaviors appear to be tied to their mother and so it would seem they are two sides of the abandonment coin, though Claire's is a bit more complicated since it also involves the years leading up to Lorelei's return to Bascom.
Claire overcompensates for her fears by organizing, maintaining stability, and keeping things familiar. Sydney overcompensates for her fears by pretending they don't exist, almost taunting change and daring it to touch her, violently if necessary. Fortunately, Bay has given Sydney a reason to be a bit sensible, and Sydney's return gives Claire an excuse to at least consider taking a chance or two (we'll see). They are perfect compliments to each other. Well done, Sarah!
09-13-2007 09:46 AM
09-15-2007 11:30 AM
09-20-2007 06:37 PM
09-20-2007 09:15 PM
I identify with both sisters, depending on my mood.
09-21-2007 11:20 PM
True- I wasn't jumping to comclusions either- I think I was just enjoying the journey with the characters. Usually my brain is zipping along, trying to predict the plot and figure out what the characters are doing/thinking.
09-25-2007 11:41 PM
09-26-2007 09:54 PM
I agree, but the quote is directly from Sydney- it may not be her real truth, but it is her truth as she sees it in the beginning of the novel.
Often we can see so much more of a character because we have more information than they do. With Sydney, there's no point in becoming truly involved in a relationship because she knows from her past experience that relationships don't last. People don't mean what they say. So when the other person starts to expect something from her, she leaves. Nothing to stay for, because she has nothing invested.
09-27-2007 08:15 PM
09-29-2007 10:08 AM
Claire and Sydney aren't that different at all. The both desparatly want to belong somewhere. Claire has found that in being a "Waverly". Sydney also wants to belong somewhere and be accepted for who she is. They both just need to understand that being a Waverley doesn't solely difine them or limit them. It is part of who they are and who Bay is, but they can still choose any life they want, and don't have to run away to do it.
I think that's a great message for all of us!