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01-03-2009 01:38 PM
"So it goes" - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
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01-03-2009 03:29 PM
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01-29-2009 09:14 AM
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01-29-2009 05:46 PM
I love 'em all. Of course, how do you evaluate the character outside of his or her function in the play? Hamlet, Lear, Othello and Shylock are all wonderfully conflicted characters because of where they are placed in the action.
The only character who is such a strong character that he could be lifted out of one play and dropped down whole into another is Falstaff. Now there's a character!
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01-30-2009 04:07 PM
One of my favorite characters is Enobarbus, Antony's chief aide in Antony and Cleopatra. He's a common man with an uncommon gift for expression, and his end is excruciatingly poignant. Some of my favorite lines by him:
About Cleopatra's arrival
The barge she sat in, like a burnish'd throne,
Burnt on the water. The poop was beaten gold,
Purple the sails, and so perfumèd that
The winds were love-sick with them; the oars were silver,
Which to the tune of flutes kept stroke, and made
The water which they beat to follow faster,
As amorous of their strokes. For her own person,
It beggar'd all description: she did lie
In her pavilion—cloth of gold, of tissue—
O'er-picturing that Venus where we see
The fancy outwork nature.
About Cleopatra herself
Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale
Her infinite variety: other women cloy
The appetites they feed; but she makes hungry
Where most she satisfies: for vilest things
Become themselves in her; that the holy priests
Bless her when she is riggish.
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01-31-2009 08:26 PM
You realize that those lines on Cleopatra's arrival were lifted, almost word for word in parts, from Plutarch.
Laurel wrote:One of my favorite characters is Enobarbus, Antony's chief aide in Antony and Cleopatra. He's a common man with an uncommon gift for expression, and his end is excruciatingly poignant. Some of my favorite lines by him:
About Cleopatra's arrival
The barge she sat in, like a burnish'd throne,
Burnt on the water. The poop was beaten gold,
Purple the sails, and so perfumèd that
The winds were love-sick with them; the oars were silver,
Which to the tune of flutes kept stroke, and made
The water which they beat to follow faster,
As amorous of their strokes. For her own person,
It beggar'd all description: she did lie
In her pavilion—cloth of gold, of tissue—
O'er-picturing that Venus where we see
The fancy outwork nature.
About Cleopatra herself
Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale
Her infinite variety: other women cloy
The appetites they feed; but she makes hungry
Where most she satisfies: for vilest things
Become themselves in her; that the holy priests
Bless her when she is riggish.
I think, therefore I drive people nuts.
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02-01-2009 04:57 PM
Everyman wrote:You realize that those lines on Cleopatra's arrival were lifted, almost word for word in parts, from Plutarch.
Laurel wrote:One of my favorite characters is Enobarbus, Antony's chief aide in Antony and Cleopatra. He's a common man with an uncommon gift for expression, and his end is excruciatingly poignant. Some of my favorite lines by him:
About Cleopatra's arrival
The barge she sat in, like a burnish'd throne,
Burnt on the water. The poop was beaten gold,
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02-02-2009 10:17 AM - edited 02-02-2009 10:20 AM
John Updike
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02-06-2009 03:06 AM
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02-06-2009 08:44 AM
Manda3 wrote:
I also like Kate from Taming of the Shrew. In an age when woman were supposed to be submissiveto men, she was strong and independant. Very inspiring. I also like the three witches in Macbeth. Terry Pratchett wrote the Wyrd Sisters based on them.
Welcome, Manda and other new users on this thread! We discussed Taming a few months ago here, Manda. Many folks agree with you about Kate's strength. We've also talked about Macbeth, but I don't remember anyone focusing on the witches as much, who are uber-cool!
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02-25-2009 07:40 PM
I have to say Romeo. It's very comical (to me at least) how his emotions drive him to actions that lead to his unhappiness and to his death, but it could have been avoided altogether if he had restrained those emotions, such as restraining his anger against Tybalt.
But of course, if that happened it would not be the tragedy of Romeo and Juliet, that we love, haha.
My teachers tell me I daydream too much....I tell them they work too much.
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02-26-2009 12:31 PM
Taylor-Marie wrote:I have to say Romeo. It's very comical (to me at least) how his emotions drive him to actions that lead to his unhappiness and to his death, but it could have been avoided altogether if he had restrained those emotions, such as restraining his anger against Tybalt.
But of course, if that happened it would not be the tragedy of Romeo and Juliet, that we love, haha.
So true, Taylor! I love how Shakespeare captures the passion of youth so well in that play.
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02-27-2009 09:42 PM
Hi to all that I have not converst with for some time. I went from Benedict to Benedict1 to Benedict3. Not sure why I needed to do that, other than forgetting my password.
Anyhow,
King Lear is such a beautiful topic, and Character. When I think of King Lear, I think of someone who has always "played the part of King" and has always done the right thing according to societies assumptions of what the right thing is. The plays the part and believes that his IS the part so much that he internalizes 'every inch of a King'.
But toward the end of the play many people, most everyone, excepting myself, see him as going crazy as he feels the water on his naked body.
To me the reality recognized of his youngest daughters love for him, and the fake presentations made by himself and his other two daughters gives him his first glimps into reality. Whereas prior to that point everything was a roll to be played.
Once the recognition of his youngest daughters love for him was recognized he felt naturally and directly for the first time. She was being truthful, and although it is difficult to be truthful in love, King Lear recognized it for the first time just prior to walking out into the rain.
He felt emotional reality during his recognition of what daughter truly loved him and was direct with him, then he felt the sensation of water on his skin. Something very real, in the moment. Nobody can tell you what you should feel when standing naked in the rain any more than somebody can tell you how you should feel when a daughter flatters you or is direct with you.
Beautiful, in that when most people say King Lear is going crazy, I say that he is getting his first glimps of reality, painful as it is.
Timbuktu2 wrote:
When I think of Lear I have an image in my mind. He's naked on the heath and I see the words "Ecce Homo", here is man. I'm not Christian but I see the image as a kind of crucifixition, the universal fate of man. Happy New Year!
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03-10-2009 09:01 AM
Feste from Twelfth Night. The lines in Act 3 Scene 1 Lines 53-54 sum it up, "This fellow is wise enough to play the fool, And to do that well craves a kind of wit." Feste is forever the wise outsider in the play, and I can relate to that.
Hamlet used to be my favorite, but as I age I am beginning to appreciate Shakespeare's comedies more. Hamlet remains my second choice, though. Third choice, Richard III.
Susan
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03-10-2009 09:31 AM
SusanHG wrote:Feste from Twelfth Night. The lines in Act 3 Scene 1 Lines 53-54 sum it up, "This fellow is wise enough to play the fool, And to do that well craves a kind of wit." Feste is forever the wise outsider in the play, and I can relate to that.
Hamlet used to be my favorite, but as I age I am beginning to appreciate Shakespeare's comedies more. Hamlet remains my second choice, though. Third choice, Richard III.
Susan
Nice quote, Susan!
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03-11-2009 01:16 PM
Feste is forever the wise outsider in the play, and I can relate to that.
Kudos to Susan for posting such a personal note! Perhaps in a different forum, she would eleborate . . .
Krakow
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03-12-2009 01:44 PM
krakow wrote:Feste is forever the wise outsider in the play, and I can relate to that.
Kudos to Susan for posting such a personal note! Perhaps in a different forum, she would eleborate . . .
Krakow
Welcome, Krakow! I'm not quite sure what you see as personal in S's. note, but I'm glad she posted also!
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03-13-2009 12:04 PM
Hey Connie,
Thank you for the warm welcome!! I look forward to chatting with fellow book lovers here!! My comment regarding Susan's statement is that she seems to be saying that, in some way, she is a wise outsider in life forever looking in. Again, I give her credit for making the statement and I support her selection of Feste as her favorite.Thank you again for welcoming me onboard!!
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03-13-2009 12:27 PM
krakow wrote:Hey Connie,
Thank you for the warm welcome!! I look forward to chatting with fellow book lovers here!! My comment regarding Susan's statement is that she seems to be saying that, in some way, she is a wise outsider in life forever looking in. Again, I give her credit for making the statement and I support her selection of Feste as her favorite.Thank you again for welcoming me onboard!!
Oh, I gotcha, krakow. Thanks for elaborating!