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What Is Romance?: Male Readers
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01-05-2007 05:49 PM
If you are a woman, do you know any men who read romance novels? If so, why do they read them? If you are a man, why do you read romance?
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01-05-2007 11:09 PM
BookClubEditor wrote:If you are a woman, do you know any men who read romance novels? If so, why do they read them? If you are a man, why do you read romance?
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I don't personally know any men who read romances, but I belong to an online book club with a romance novel thread, and a couple of men are members. One of them, who is married and has daughters and granddaughters, said he especially likes romances that include the development of families. He also said he feels empathy with the heroes/heroines if they have well-developed families and likes to read stories with strong family ties. From what I recall of his posts, he prefers contemporary romances by authors like Krentz, Roberts, Carly Phillips, Evanovich, and Crusie.
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01-06-2007 08:37 PM
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01-07-2007 09:19 PM
"Songs of a Distant Earth" by Arthur C. Clarke
"The Naked Sun" by Isaac Asimov
"The Naked Sun" has a mystery element to it, with a running sexual attraction between the detective and the heroine. It is told from the guy's perspective. I wouldn't count it as a romance except that their relationship is not purely sexual and there is a lot of unrequited tension. It starts as purely sexual admiration and the rest builds up somewhat unexpectedly. The SF is top quality realistic scientific exploration of the future. It is the second book in the bestselling robot trilogy.
"Songs of a Distant Earth" is less well known, very strong SF in terms of realistic potential future world, but it's plot is largely that of a romance. Again the attraction starts as purely sexual.
I think the SF male reader is often interested in exploring new kinds of sexuality and family relationships. Don't forget Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land" and of course "A Brave New World" and "1984" which have become required high school reading. But it isn't enough just to have some new strange sex. The plot has to work it in and so a romance plot is often more appropriate than a mystery or action plot for such a piece.
Talking with male friends, the romance storyline that most captures their interest is King Arthur and Sir Lancelot. The primary interest to them being the issue of falling in love with a best friend's wife. Of course they all know this story because it is caught in a classic men's tale.
So in short, I think a romance plotline can well be used in genre fiction popular with men.
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01-08-2007 09:32 AM
Male and Female Readers
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01-08-2007 12:04 PM
A very sweet man told me once at a book signing that he read romance to keep in touch with how his wife liked to be treated.
What other differences might there be in how men and women look at romance novels?
Leigh
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01-20-2007 09:54 AM
I think the core story of a lot of romance novels is this: an ordinary woman becomes the all-consuming interest (=the life focus) of an extraordinary man, and does it not by accomplishing anything spectacular, but just by being who and what she is.
By "ordinary" woman, I mean: not a billionaire, often not spectacularly beautiful, but extraordinarily kind-hearted, very good with kids, and super-tough and optimistic under difficult circumstances.
By "extraordinary" man, I mean: often a billionaire/outrageous success in life, alpha, ferociously good-looking, etc. "Men want to be him, and women just want him." That kind of guy.
So it's clear what the fantasy is for women readers. For men? Not so much.
Now, here are two romantic movies that a lot of men I know _love_: "Say Anything" and "Notting Hill." I liked both movies too, but I think it's interesting that they involve a reversal of the pattern I've given above. In "Say Anything," John Cusack is a really nice, kind of ordinary guy who winds up with Ione Skye, playing the brilliant, spectacularly beautiful high-school standout. In "Notting Hill," well ... it's really just an ordinary guy's fantasy, isn't it? "Suppose I met Julia Roberts, and she fell in love with me ... Sigh ..."
But if it's true that men are more visual than women, romantic movies might just be a more appealing draw for them than romantic books. It's tough to reproduce the beauty of Ione Skye or Julia Roberts on the printed page. (As for me, I'll go see any movie Sean Bean makes!)
What do you think?
Realta
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01-20-2007 10:48 AM
Men and women, I am convinced, have very different natures. I think romance can be written for men, but romance could not be the focus. Men need action.
I just read a book. Wildfire by Nelson Demille. I think my husband would have found it very romantic. The family that tracks down terrorists together, stays together. There was this underexpressed affection and caring on the man's part. It stayed in his head the whole book and so did his wife. It expressed his love in the frequency of his thoughts of her, the protectiveness he felt toward her and his respect of her abilities. And at the end, she got really sexy and shot a bunch of bad guys. Seriously, it was male romance, I think.
I found it romantic, sort of, but it was only because I was in his head. His wife didn't find him romantic at all. Men do keep it in too much. How do we know unless they tell us?
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04-08-2007 11:57 PM
My husband grew up in a house where the only books were the Bible and school texts. Reading for pleasure was unknown to him until he met me, so he started reading them because they were readily available, and continues to do so because he enjoys them, and the variety of sub-genres I read gives him an overview of other types of literature he might enjoy.
I'm fairly certain his buddy only reads them for the sex.
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04-09-2007 09:05 AM
Then bloody swords and armor should not be:" Thomas Campion
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04-11-2007 03:20 PM
As for male readers, I can't think many men would enjoy reading romance novels uless the novels were erotica.
Perhaps it boils down to that Mars and venus thing.
In romance novels the main character is usually a woman. I know lots of romance have 2 protagonists the H and the h, but the stories are mainly about a woman having her dreams fulfilled. The stories are mainly centered around emotion.
Men probably prefer adventure books where the man leads the story and solves the problems and the story is comprised mainly of action.
I must read those 2 science fiction books again . I've a collection old Arthur C Clarke books and Asimov ones. I used to love them but haven't read any SF for years
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04-12-2007 08:55 AM
I loved the thought of Leigh's chap reading them to see how to treat women, I wish I knew a chap like that!
Lynne.
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04-12-2007 12:50 PM
Then bloody swords and armor should not be:" Thomas Campion
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I was just in Barnes and Noble two years ago, and I picked up a book (Awaken Me Darkly by Gena Showalter), and I kinda skimmed through it. The story itself I assumed it was cool cause of the alien huntress deal, but when I finally bought it and read it on my way home. I realized it was a romance because of the descriptive scenes!
It's not that it's bad, I actually love the romance and storyline itself, not because of the "love scenes" in it. I hate that. When I'm at school, when some people see my books lying around, they say ignorant things like "Sex book!" or "Eew! What your reading is inappropriate."
Now, when I go to BaN to pick up a new book, I'm the only sign of male radiating in the romance section. Every now and then I get weird looks and awkward faces when:
- I go to customer service and ask if they have my book.
- A woman sees me looking through the shelves actually looking for it.
As long as I get my book and I enjoy reading it, then I'm happy.
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07-25-2007 07:33 PM
"There is no such thing as love at first sight. Only lust. True love is the meaning of always making that lust, last forever." Christina Stover.
I have always thought romance was the key. I have it in my life all the time. It not only makes her feel good, it makes me feel great that I can still romance her.
I know in editing my novel, I got to the 14th chapter and tears came to my eyes. I didn't even realize I wrote the emotions, I did, in that chapter until I read them.
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10-30-2007 09:39 AM
As the operator of the only romance book and film website for men, I do my best to find any books that might appeal to men generally. However, while I've tried reading many women's romance novels, there is usually nothing at all in them for men - to reiterate realta's point; they are 'her' fantasy not 'his' and definitely not mine. --RomanceNews.Net Admin