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Dostoevsky's effect on the reader

I think I'm starting a new thread but I'm not sure. Haven't figured out how to deal with messages yet.

I'm having a hard time reading "The Double." I find it difficult to sympathize with Golyadkin and imposible to emphathize with him. So it is difficult to "get into" the character. And I flip flop from being impatient and being bored. Dostoevsky goes on and on and, in such a predictable manner that there is no sense of suspense. Perhaps most importantly I actually begin to feel depressed when I read Dostoevsky - with all of his work, not just this one.

I'm wondering how reading this selection might effect others.
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saltydog wrote:
I think I'm starting a new thread but I'm not sure. Haven't figured out how to deal with messages yet.

I'm having a hard time reading "The Double." I find it difficult to sympathize with Golyadkin and imposible to emphathize with him. So it is difficult to "get into" the character. And I flip flop from being impatient and being bored. Dostoevsky goes on and on and, in such a predictable manner that there is no sense of suspense. Perhaps most importantly I actually begin to feel depressed when I read Dostoevsky - with all of his work, not just this one.

I'm wondering how reading this selection might effect others.





From Belinsky’s statements:
“Despite the fact that the story has some sparkles of a great talent, the darkness is too thick to let the reader see the light.”

It was Belinsky’s response to the stories “The Double” and “Mr. Prokharchin”. Belinsky did not get the point of “The Double” and blamed the author for being lengthy. He didn’t like that Dostoevsky described insanity of the main character. He considered it to be unacceptable in literature. In fact, “The Double” is filled with belief in good forces within a man. A man is dual in his nature and combines both good and evil will. This idea will thread his new novels. It will appear in “The Devils” and will be fully revealed in his last novel “The Brothers Karamazov”.

From Dostoevsky’s letter to his brother Mikhail:
"I’ve got a terrible drawback – unbounded self-esteem and ambition.
The form of the story “The Double” is definitely not felicitous. Much is written hastily. I’ve already lost heart for some time. Along with brilliant pages there are foul and trashy ones. And it created a temporary hell for me and I drowned in grief…”

Diffidence, disappointment, disorder, debts, distress and loneliness – that’s what the beginning of the literary path of the 25-year-old writer was like. Dostoevsky always thought how to earn good money and made incredible plans about it, but being a kind, unpractical and credulous man he was constantly in low water.

A stunning success of the first novel and a complete failure of the second one disturbed his mental equilibrium: he turned to be extremely reserved and irritable. He began to keep off his acquaintances. Dostoevsky quarreled with Turgenev, who provoked him with his sneers. The writer was pestered with epigrams, rumours, accusations of boasting and self-conceit. Dostoevsky broke with his old surroundings, with Nekrasov and Belinsky’s literary circle, and made new acquaintances.

from: http://fyodordostoevskychronicle.blogspot.com/2006/12/mental-equilibrium-disturbed.html

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoevsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double%3A_A_Petersburg_Poem
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Re: Dostoevsky's effect on the reader

Interesting, Ziki! In the last novel, "The Brothers Karamazov," we the three parts of man divided into three men: the sensual Dmitri, the intellectual Ivan, and the spiritual Alyosha.



ziki wrote:


saltydog wrote:
I think I'm starting a new thread but I'm not sure. Haven't figured out how to deal with messages yet.

I'm having a hard time reading "The Double." I find it difficult to sympathize with Golyadkin and imposible to emphathize with him. So it is difficult to "get into" the character. And I flip flop from being impatient and being bored. Dostoevsky goes on and on and, in such a predictable manner that there is no sense of suspense. Perhaps most importantly I actually begin to feel depressed when I read Dostoevsky - with all of his work, not just this one.

I'm wondering how reading this selection might effect others.





From Belinsky’s statements:
“Despite the fact that the story has some sparkles of a great talent, the darkness is too thick to let the reader see the light.”

It was Belinsky’s response to the stories “The Double” and “Mr. Prokharchin”. Belinsky did not get the point of “The Double” and blamed the author for being lengthy. He didn’t like that Dostoevsky described insanity of the main character. He considered it to be unacceptable in literature. In fact, “The Double” is filled with belief in good forces within a man. A man is dual in his nature and combines both good and evil will. This idea will thread his new novels. It will appear in “The Devils” and will be fully revealed in his last novel “The Brothers Karamazov”.

From Dostoevsky’s letter to his brother Mikhail:
"I’ve got a terrible drawback – unbounded self-esteem and ambition.
The form of the story “The Double” is definitely not felicitous. Much is written hastily. I’ve already lost heart for some time. Along with brilliant pages there are foul and trashy ones. And it created a temporary hell for me and I drowned in grief…”

Diffidence, disappointment, disorder, debts, distress and loneliness – that’s what the beginning of the literary path of the 25-year-old writer was like. Dostoevsky always thought how to earn good money and made incredible plans about it, but being a kind, unpractical and credulous man he was constantly in low water.

A stunning success of the first novel and a complete failure of the second one disturbed his mental equilibrium: he turned to be extremely reserved and irritable. He began to keep off his acquaintances. Dostoevsky quarreled with Turgenev, who provoked him with his sneers. The writer was pestered with epigrams, rumours, accusations of boasting and self-conceit. Dostoevsky broke with his old surroundings, with Nekrasov and Belinsky’s literary circle, and made new acquaintances.

from: http://fyodordostoevskychronicle.blogspot.com/2006/12/mental-equilibrium-disturbed.html

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoevsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double%3A_A_Petersburg_Poem


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Re: Dostoevsky's effect on the reader

Great post.
What do you all think: Is the book great in some spots and drowning in others, like he feared?
What are your favorite kinds of works: polished or craggy?



ziki wrote:





From Belinsky’s statements:
“Despite the fact that the story has some sparkles of a great talent, the darkness is too thick to let the reader see the light.”

It was Belinsky’s response to the stories “The Double” and “Mr. Prokharchin”. Belinsky did not get the point of “The Double” and blamed the author for being lengthy. He didn’t like that Dostoevsky described insanity of the main character. He considered it to be unacceptable in literature. In fact, “The Double” is filled with belief in good forces within a man. A man is dual in his nature and combines both good and evil will. This idea will thread his new novels. It will appear in “The Devils” and will be fully revealed in his last novel “The Brothers Karamazov”.

From Dostoevsky’s letter to his brother Mikhail:
"I’ve got a terrible drawback – unbounded self-esteem and ambition.
The form of the story “The Double” is definitely not felicitous. Much is written hastily. I’ve already lost heart for some time. Along with brilliant pages there are foul and trashy ones. And it created a temporary hell for me and I drowned in grief…”

Diffidence, disappointment, disorder, debts, distress and loneliness – that’s what the beginning of the literary path of the 25-year-old writer was like. Dostoevsky always thought how to earn good money and made incredible plans about it, but being a kind, unpractical and credulous man he was constantly in low water.

A stunning success of the first novel and a complete failure of the second one disturbed his mental equilibrium: he turned to be extremely reserved and irritable. He began to keep off his acquaintances. Dostoevsky quarreled with Turgenev, who provoked him with his sneers. The writer was pestered with epigrams, rumours, accusations of boasting and self-conceit. Dostoevsky broke with his old surroundings, with Nekrasov and Belinsky’s literary circle, and made new acquaintances.

from: http://fyodordostoevskychronicle.blogspot.com/2006/12/mental-equilibrium-disturbed.html

---------
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fyodor_Dostoevsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Double%3A_A_Petersburg_Poem





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