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Lately (see posts here), I’ve been thinking about how pictures relate to thoughts or words. I’ve been painting portraits of writers, figuring out how reading them influences the way I see their faces, and vice versa.
Pictures and words do have a funny relationship. We know that fact from dreams: Weird images can capture complex ideas in powerful ways. For instance, someone can say in plain old words that “three people don’t relate to each other.” But if you have a picture of three things, then their positions in space, their colors, and their different shapes convey parts of the relationship that words do not totally capture:

After a year off, I’m about to go back to teaching literature, and I’ll be using Salinger’s “A Perfect Day for Bananafish,” a tight emotional story that I just reread. I’ll be teaching a course on “Emotion in Literature,” and because I’m coming back to literature after a year in the “real world,” I feel like I want to cut to the chase or approach stories in quick or practical ways. So I’m picturing Salinger’s stories in the relatively clean world of images.
“A Perfect Day for Bananafish” has three main scenes: One in which a vain New Yorker is talking to her mother on the phone from an empty hotel room. Her mother is trying to talk about her husband’s depression, but the daughter keeps shutting the subject down. In the next scene, we get the two other focal points of the story: Her depressed husband and an innocent little girl around age four. Like the woman in the first scene, these two are also lone souls, talking past each other. They are play-talking in a nearly manic way, but we get a sense of their divide (Him=depressed veteran. Her=4-yr-old wide-eyed innocent). In the last scene, the husband goes back to his hotel room and kills himself. Each body in the story was starkly alone: talking manically into space. To me, these three characters feel like orbs, or like balls floating through the story with white space between them.
Salinger’s story is partly structured by an image. His story shows three well-defined entities that don’t touch. Perhaps when an author gets conscious of the structure or image that his story is building, it helps him polish it: to paint one character clearly in contrast to another, to make the two resonate through isolated details (e.g. a similar shirt each wears; or a joke or word that each uses in different ways), to cut clearer space between the characters, or to make their coming and going cleaner. If you see some structural form that your story is making, you can probably cut more distinct lines between the parts. We do tend to see divisions more easily in images than through the confusing abstraction of words (which is why teachers often use the blackboard for sketching out important organizing principles).
Compare the effects you get from the abstract phrase “the difference between things” with the edge of a wall that cuts a difference clearly in space:

The phrase "the difference between things" allows for many different ideas; and somehow the visual of a line forms something clear for everyone: a dividing space with a certain width.
It can be helpful to think of the images behind the stories you read: Is this a story structured by gleaming white, like a beach scene? Or are there any number of distinct forms at play with each other? Or is the story painted in dark, or light, colors? I think visuals give form to wordy arts. And I think Salinger built a story by putting space between three perfectly circular balls.
Do you ever see stories in terms of images, and how can images either help an author write or a reader understand what the author made?
Catch Salinger's "A Perfect Day for Bananafish" in his excellent Nine Stories.
Ilana Simons is a therapist, literature professor, and author of A Life of One's Own: A Guide to Better Living through the Work and Wisdom of Virginia Woolf. Visit her website here.
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I have this book set aside for me, and I'll pick it up tomorrow. I've never read Salinger, but I would like to get a first hand view, picture, of what we're talking about.
These concepts don't readily form a picture in my mind. I understand them, but abstract has always been hard for me to see in my mind. I'm better at it now, but early on it was virtually impossible for my instructor to get it across to me. It's like viewing negative and positive space...and finding two pictures in those spaces.
Even writing this down, I have to visualize the pictures to try and make myself sound like I know what I'm talking about, and understand it in the process. Using the word "thing" really doesn't explain anything, I'm not very good at giving space between my words. Yes, wordy for those necessary pictures for me to understand things.
VW always seemed, to me, as an abstract writer, and not always easy for me to see the pictures she paints with her words, but when I do see them, I feel like I've accomplished something great. I've given up trying to understand why I feel her words, more than I understand them intellectually. I honestly can't answer that. I put her book, Between the Acts, aside. I haven't finished it, or even know if I really do want to finish it. It's not making sense to me. Half the time, I can't tell the cast players from the audience...it all feels off to me. I have no clear picture in my head as to what I'm seeing. Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Or, maybe it is.
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Kathy,
Thanks for the comment. I think my post needs another edit, because I probably didn't clearly enough distinguish between the actual images authors create (say, of a table or the beach or someone's face), and the formal structure I mean to be talking about. That is, I don't mean to be writing about the actual physical scenes that Salinger describes, but about the shape his story makes in my mind. I think I tend to see writing in "structural" terms because I'm used to grading student essays, and I tend to think "ok...this student has an introduction that's just a few lines long, and then three big paragraphs, each of which feels like a meaty chunk and explains one thing each, and then she's got this really long, loose paragraph, and I'm not sure where that fits in the structure of the essay." So I see writing in terms of the parts that hold together, like a building's structure.
About woolf: I think you're totally right that with her, the words themselves, and the flow, take center stage, not the structure. I agree.
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Thanks, Ilana, for your help in trying to explain this to me. I wasn't really sure what you meant by: I feel like I want to cut to the chase or approach stories in quick or practical ways. So I’m picturing Salinger’s stories in the relatively clean world of images.
I just finished reading the story. I'm glad I did, so I can get a better understanding of this whole idea. Although, I still may not get it right. It was full of images for me, but I'm not sure just how clean they were!
I remember, in VW's Between the Acts, there was a statement that one of the characters had made. I quoted it in a book discussion I had been on...actually, it was just me and the mod, Stephanie....which described Lisa Tucker's story, and also how she, herself, used a character to show this same concept. The words were something to this effect (out of context), there is no plot. Stephanie asked me if I saw a theme to VW's story, or a plot, as with the book we were reading together. So, I had to sort that out in my mind, the difference between a story having a plot or a theme. And, I found both books to have a theme, and no real plot.
In this Salinger story, A Perfect Day For Bananafish, I felt no plot..... I felt there was an incredible calmness throughout it, except in one spot, and that was in the elevator with the man and the lady, and he said to her: "I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest GD reason why anybody should stare at them". That, to me, tied it all together at that moment. The question comes back, after he shoots himself. Where is the normalcy to this whole story with these characters' interactions?
I did see that these individuals all having their own agenda. The seemingly uncaring of the wife, the almost too caring of the mother, and the simple interaction between the man and the little girl. He was connected to the little girl, I thought, as two children making up stories and playing together. As two children are basically selfishly self involved at that age. It was a simple, uncomplicated place he put himself in, with that little girl. I thought it rather a beautiful scene that was created, even though I felt a little apprehensive for the little girl.
I felt there to be an isolation, the calmness that I was feeling. The lack of emotional involvement between any of these characters, and me with these characters, I guess is another connection I see. It was like the calm before the storm. And the almost contradiction of feeling emotionally uninvolved with them, but still feeling connected. I don't think the general population can really see the mind of someone who accomplishes a suicide. And it is easier to stay unemotional.
I didn't find a lot of superfluous descriptions in this story, other than the details of the wife, before she picks up the phone...the details of showing lack of interest in knowing who was going to be on the other end of the phone line. Or just plain lack of interest in anything but herself.
In a fast run through, that's what I got out of this story. Off the top of my head....I think, if a story is written well, there doesn't have to be every last detail thrown out in bold colors. I guess the simplicity in the subtleness of construction works. I see a lot of readers go in both directions....as I watch them run through a story, and never see some of the most important aspects...preferring the guiding of a detailed plot, and never seeing the 'white' spaces of a theme. I hope I got close to what this story was about.
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I'm not really sure if the story of the Bananafish has any significance. The Bananafish eating too many bananas, and not being able to get out of his hole, and dying....but the little girl saw a banana fish, with six bananas in his mouth...? And, I don't recall, at any point in this story, the writer telling us how these characters were feeling....we just know.
The man kisses the little girl's arch of her foot....it was a loving gesture. There was nothing I saw between this man and his wife. It felt so cold at that moment. I felt as though this man was the Bananafish....jHe was full....just too much for him, and he couldn't get himself out of that hole...and dies. Like my therapist had told me, everyone has different tolerance levels.
An aside: Yesterday, I was talking to a woman in our class who is raising a lab to be a companion to someone who has post traumatic stress disorder. It was so fascinating to hear about how this training takes place. Using a clicker for positive reinforcement. I told her she must have a tremendous amount of patience with this dog, teaching him so much, with just eye and hand commands, too. She told me that she thought every teacher should understand these concepts, before they teach children. Something that you brought up in one of your blogs.
This dog sounds amazing. She told me how he can almost read your mind. They really do have to teach them to think. She can't tell him what she wants, he has to figure it out just from these commands. She told me it's like the game, Hot and Cold....and she uses her eyes to direct the dog. They have to learn to hold eye contact, too. I didn't get a chance to ask her why these dogs are used with these people. I just assumed, after what she told me, they can predict and anticipate what their companion is going to do next. I don't know if they're used for preventative measures, or what. I'll have to ask her more next week.
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I had time to sleep on this, and I know this isn't a book discussion; I took this story apart, piece by piece, and it really wasn't in any particular order; and I know when writing an essay, or story, these paragraphs, or sentence structures, should at least follow a theme, or thought line..whether starkly visible to the reader, or not......and with the end, there should be just at least the same amount of attention paid to that last paragraph, showing the whys and the wherefores of the reason for being there.
My ideas were random, unedited, and purely didn't follow any structural plan, or picture. I see the visual you've tried to explain, but I also feel that there has to be a process, that each person's mind has to go through to get to that last paragraph. I'm always writing that last paragraph, it seems, on these blogs of yours. Maybe I'll get it right, and maybe I won't, but I do keep trying, never really knowing for sure. I just guess at what I know, feeling my way through it, since I've never taken a writing class. Maybe I don't see the structure, or the building blocks, as much as I see the mortar that holds it together. Maybe that's my picture I see.
I'm getting too analytical, yes, I see the strengths of each of my paragraphs, after I've finished writing something I want to be seen by the public. On here, I'm not as careful about what I write. I don't look at this space as public.
You've talked about images in dreams, and as we dream, as I do a lot of that these days, I see storylines in these pictures, but in the bright daylight, they aren't held together with a normal amount of the same mortar. There is a feeling of disconnection from reality, when I try to bring them into the light of this day, as I've thought about writing them out as stories. Some minds will easily see these pictures as saying something, and connect to them, while other minds won't see them as anything but out of context pictures.
As an example, it was the feeling I got when I read a couple of your short stories, Ilana, they felt like dream sequences. There was a reality, but my understanding of it wasn't totally clear. I'm thinking - the hard part in writing, is getting the reader to the point of that understanding, perhaps in that last paragraph, or the beginning, or the middle...I don't know.
The intellectual levels, from ourselves, to our readers, all vary. Who are we writing for, ourselves, or the reader? Who do we write for, the masses of people, or a few intellectuals, or a couple of people who can only see how that mortar is sticking those structures together, into a cohesive picture? I don't have the answer.
All I know is, when I read, within a split second of seeing those words, a picture evolves, and nothing changes it for the rest of the story. In my mind, these feel like abstract pieces of a puzzle, and until those pieces actually connect, do I see the full picture. It's like watching a moving picture unfold in my head.
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Ilana,
Writing with images, emotions....the visuals we need, to see a story.
When I wrote that poem, which I made into a visual of a wine glass, it may not have ended up making a lot of sense to anyone who read it. I gathered a lot of my thoughts from these portraits you painted, and, of course, the wine you drank in the cafe. I do picture all the movements it takes to make a physical picture. You do create those pictures for me, and I love them.....maybe not always as clear as I would like, but I do eventually see how complete a line, or a word, can translate to any one of us.
I know how the arms move, and how a brush can be held. How it's dipped, swirled, as it's introduced into the palette of colors and then onto the canvas (plate). Everything is manipulated...you stand back...do I like it? Do I want to move that color over there, to here....and how much do I apply before I take it to it's completed form, or over think, and manage the colors into being overworked?
I didn't start out by writing that poem, knowing I was going to take it into the shape it became. I manipulated the words, and it took on a form, a life of it's own..... that I started to recognize. I laughed at it. I smiled at it. I tasted it, and felt that this was the shape it was meant to be. It made me happy. I think that's what your paintings, or stories, are meant to be, no matter how I see them, no matter how I critique them. None of us see the same things, in the same light.
.....forgive me if I tire you out.... but, it's about a book I'm reading at the moment, it's Pat Conroy's South of Broad. It starts out by telling us about one of two sons who commits suicide. Then the story jumps, in broad increments in time. I really haven't developed any emotional ties to any one of these characters, the author doesn't let me, or.... it may just be that I keep putting this book down, because it makes me tired to read so much description...and how many times do I want to hear about what this author is seeing in the terrain? He paints over the same brush strokes. I can only handle so much without getting bored.
I know a lot of his Southern readers love this....I do love to hear, feel, and smell the surroundings, but not to this extent. It just becomes redundant. Yes, I'd like to know what happens to these characters, but what am I willing to do, and sludge through, to get there?
The happy medium of letting the reader see what the author sees, in her mind's images, in the fewest of words, seems to be the answer. Once I see the grasses, smell the plow mud, hear the birds, and see the skies overhead, I don't need those images repeated to me, I only want to know what these characters are doing within it, how they interact with each other to tell me what I need to know about them, just so I can feel that emotional tie.
And, as they say (or don't say)....
THE END!
(painted with a smile)
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Ilana, this is what you said:
That is, I don't mean to be writing about the actual physical scenes that Salinger describes, but about the shape his story makes in my mind. I think I tend to see writing in "structural" terms because I'm used to grading student essays, and I tend to think "ok...this student has an introduction that's just a few lines long, and then three big paragraphs, each of which feels like a meaty chunk and explains one thing each, and then she's got this really long, loose paragraph, and I'm not sure where that fits in the structure of the essay." So I see writing in terms of the parts that hold together, like a building's structure.
And this is what first hit my mind, believe it or not, before and after reading what you just said. I went after those mortar building scenarios, when all I had to do is show you this...This isn't exactly the painting I wanted of his, but it's close enough.
Piet Mondrian - Rhythm of Black Lines
An except from an essay - Here's the website
"Mondrian wanted the infinite, and shape is finite. A straight line is infinitely extendable, and the open-ended space between two parallel straight lines is infinitely extendable. A Mondrian abstract is the most compact imaginable pictorial harmony, the most self-sufficient of painted surfaces (besides being as intimate as a Dutch interior). At the same time it stretches far beyond its borders so that it seems a fragment of a larger cosmos or so that, getting a kind of feedback from the space which it rules beyond its boundaries, it acquires a second, illusory, scale by which the distances between points on the canvas seem measurable in miles.
" 'The positive and the negative are the causes of all action ... The positive and the negative break up oneness, they are the cause of all unhappiness. The union of the positive and the negative is happiness.' The palpable oneness of the solitary flower or tower, being subject to time and change, had to give way to the subliminal oneness of a vivid equilibrium."
- From David Sylvester, "About Modern Art: Critical Essays, 1948-1997"
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Kathy,
You’ve given me so much to think about, I feel full with the meal. But it’s a good meal.
in bulletpoints, some thoughts:
About V. Woolf and plot: Are you a member of the VW listserv? You should be. register here if not?:
vwoolf@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu
A vocal member in that group said, the other day, kind of tongue in cheek, something like, “Thank God that Woolf has no plots!” I think you’re right: she doesn’t love plot, certainly not for plot’s sake.
About your observation of the elevator scene in bananafish: Nice observation! Maybe when Seymour talks about his GD feet, it’s the first time someone expresses open aggression in the story. The whole time, as you said, we’re watching phony interpersonal connections (with veiled aggressions), and here he is, being direct and angry. And of course there’s an allusion to Christ with his naked feet and the GD and the martyr about to die.
The word “bananafish”: yeah. It is playfully mysterious, as you say. Some people think there’s a shameful sexual intimacy between Seymour and the little girl (see that wordless kiss of the foot). Banana (penis) and fish (vagina) would be an imaginative melding of their intimacies. And when he gets so pissed about his naked feet later on, it might be his shame over desired inappropriate intimacies. “He couldn't get himself out of that hole.”
About the therapy dog: I do like that image. Some people say that childhood can be screwed up by a parent who can’t read emotions through the body language of a child who cannot yet articulate her needs. If a dog can read emotions and needs thru body language, I agree with you: that lovely dog can be curative.
Pat Conroy: I really loved one of his books in high school but haven’t read him since. Do you recommend him?
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Thanks for the Woolf link. I don't know it. My computer is having problems at the moment, and I'm at the college, today, using theirs. This has to be quick.
I wasn't expecting this reply to the meal I'd given you. Interesting thoughts on the story. I read your post yesterday, and it was emotional for me. The images I had formed, and the emotions I had formed, all changed after reading your interpretations. It upset me, I'll be honest with you. I didn't want to see that exchange between Seymour and the little girl to have anything except innocence. My feelings all changed and it made me angry. It made me cry. I couldn't sleep....I think that Seymour needed that moment. That altruistic moment. I see the emotions more in my psychological view, more than your specific Freudian view. It's like he had to have that moment of pure giving, one last time.
Also, the scene in the elevator, I saw no connection to Christ in it, at all. The GD reverence, I see, is just this author's penchant for swearing, in anger, or irritation. Yes, the feet being bare, but it was a barrenness that I saw in his mind, about his life, and having it all exposed to a stranger. I didn't see him as a martyr. I saw him as someone angry in the elevator, who saw the inevitable, having to face his wife....
The calmness that I had seen in the end, in his act, was the inevitable fulfilled.
Kathy
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As far as Conroy, the jury is still out. You probably know him better than I do. I'm sure I'll finish this book, just when, I don't know. Also, I don't expect you to respond to my last post. I'm not sure why I attempted it.
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the man with the robe on - covered, afraid, protected. the man without it - open, exposed, vulnerable. I read the story for the second time. I had missed a lot. And, there's another possible twist to the Bananafish.
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Ilana,
The jury came in on Pat Conroy's South of Broad. I was 192 pages into the book, and stopped reading. I closed the pages. I got tired of the 'good ol boy' bantering, and the use of derogatory remarks towards each other, continually, simply bored me. I couldn't bring myself to wade through it. I have two other books by him, and, maybe, someday I'll try those. I'll give my copy of this S.O.B. to the library. (Derogatory remark intended)
Kathy
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